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Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
March 23 2010 14:53 GMT
#1
So I see a TON of people using Procaster to stream in ULTRA high quality. Can some people help me with some of the settings they've used to sexify their streams? I have a beastly computer, but I can't quite seem to get the settings just right.

Any help people can give would be amazing!

****
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 17:53:15
March 23 2010 14:57 GMT
#2
First of all you gotta use the game mode to stream instead of screen. Second, go to the video settings and set your video bitrate to 450 and audio to 50. That's what I've got and it's as HQ as it gets.

I'm not exactly sure what resolution mine is on, can't check right now but make sure your channel aspect ratio is on widescreen.

These are the settings I use:

[image loading]


Which produces this quality:

http://www.livestream.com/discofever/video?clipId=pla_f7b9652f-65b7-41d9-a72b-e19e7bcc5bcd

You can up the resolution to as much as your PC can handle to get an even better picture.

this game is a fucking jokie
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 23 2010 15:42 GMT
#3
Yea I think Day plays the SC in windowed mode or something - game mode is best
KTY
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 16:38:15
March 23 2010 16:37 GMT
#4
Yeah, windowed mode.

Also - you might want to consider, if you have a beastly computer, when you spectate and/or analyze (basically whenever you cast unless it's yourself playing live), turning up the detail settings, makes for a better viewing experience along with the switch to game mode and full screen as previously suggested.

If you go fullscreen without switching to game mode it'll flicker like mad by the way.

Edit: livestream is most comfortable in 16: 9 so try to use that aspect.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
March 23 2010 17:00 GMT
#5
The Ultra High quality is going to be limited by your internet and bandwidth probably.

Go as high as you can in terms of resolution without destroying your computer. 16 resolution is best, to change you channel to that, you'll want to go to your livestream channel's settings, and there's an option somewhere down there if you scroll down to change your channel to 16 aspect ratio. Be warned that if you want to stream some regular Starcraft, you're going to need to go back to 4:3, else your BW stream will end up being smaller than usual.

As for Procaster settings, go to the Video tab under settings. You're going to want to lock your aspect ratio to 16, and to put that value as high as it'll go. If you're crazy, you can try 1680x1050, but your internet will probably implode on you if you do that. I'm not sure what everyone else does, but probably something like 800x450 will be decent. Scale it up if you can though.

As for your bitrate, you can set it basically to something ridiculous like 1000 kbps. I don't think it matters too much. I don't think I'm forgetting anything, so try that first.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 17:03:32
March 23 2010 17:02 GMT
#6
You can't set it to 1000 kbps unless you have a paid channel. 500 kbps max even with Procaster. All you get if you set it higher than 1000 is a bunch of emails telling you that "you have exceeded the bitrate limit" and a black screen.

However in the past, the already defined settings like High Quality, HD Quality and stuff down there work. Manual toggling of bitrate is a big no no though.

Unless my stream was just being buggy =/
God Bless
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
March 23 2010 17:03 GMT
#7
Have you tried choosing HD Quality from the dropdown menu? I haven't tried it myself personally because my upload speed can't keep up. Livestream limits the video bitrate to 500 for non-premium accounts so it's always going to bottleneck how sexy your stream looks
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 17:44:12
March 23 2010 17:42 GMT
#8
On March 23 2010 23:53 Day[9] wrote:
So I see a TON of people using Procaster to stream in ULTRA high quality. Can some people help me with some of the settings they've used to SEXIFY their streams? I have a beastly computer, but I can't quite seem to get the settings just right.

Any help people can give would be amazing!


Oh day how I love your vocab.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 17:43:48
March 23 2010 17:43 GMT
#9
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
March 23 2010 19:51 GMT
#10
hurry up and upgrade can't wait to watch in super good quality
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4343 Posts
March 23 2010 20:01 GMT
#11
Use Justin.TV. Unlimited bitrate. It's awesome.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10890 Posts
March 23 2010 20:20 GMT
#12
my chat on livestream suddenly stopped working, i know this isnt on topic but anyone know how to fix it? its all white now and i cant chat / see what ppl chat in stream =( .. gl thx for info otherwise
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
March 23 2010 20:41 GMT
#13
On March 24 2010 02:02 Roffles wrote:
You can't set it to 1000 kbps unless you have a paid channel. 500 kbps max even with Procaster. All you get if you set it higher than 1000 is a bunch of emails telling you that "you have exceeded the bitrate limit" and a black screen.

However in the past, the already defined settings like High Quality, HD Quality and stuff down there work. Manual toggling of bitrate is a big no no though.

Unless my stream was just being buggy =/

Procaster works differently. I've sometimes somehow gotten 780 bitrate (watched it in game), and I have a free account. It's kind of weird. Just set to 500 kbps then if you have bad interwebs
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
March 23 2010 22:03 GMT
#14
On March 24 2010 05:01 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Use Justin.TV. Unlimited bitrate. It's awesome.

And in all my years on the internet, I have never been able to watch more than 10 seconds of any Justin.tv stream before getting a "ALL SLOTS FOR YOUR COUNTRY ARE FULL, FUCK OFF" message.

So, no, don't go there. Please. I'm begging.
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Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
March 23 2010 22:36 GMT
#15
ok so let me try this again

my bitrate is not an issue and neither is my hardware. i have plenty of both.

so what are some SETTINGS that you guys use that are good for it to LOOK AWESOME
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 22:46:26
March 23 2010 22:38 GMT
#16
Dunno what you guys are talking about. I have a free (verified) livestream account and I was able to stream HD at 1000 kbps. Only problem is my sound keeps cutting out periodically (Probably because my upload speed isn't good enough. It's 4.8 Mbps.. Is that low?). I turned the video bitrate down, but it's still being problematic..
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 22:40:37
March 23 2010 22:40 GMT
#17
On March 24 2010 07:36 Day[9] wrote:
ok so let me try this again

my bitrate is not an issue and neither is my hardware. i have plenty of both.

so what are some SETTINGS that you guys use that are good for it to LOOK AWESOME


Just select the HD option and make sure the aspect ratio is 16 : 9
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
March 23 2010 22:59 GMT
#18
On March 24 2010 07:36 Day[9] wrote:
ok so let me try this again

my bitrate is not an issue and neither is my hardware. i have plenty of both.

so what are some SETTINGS that you guys use that are good for it to LOOK AWESOME


bahahhaa, shit gets off topic soooooo easily around here... I think all TL members have ADD
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
March 23 2010 23:53 GMT
#19
On March 24 2010 07:36 Day[9] wrote:
ok so let me try this again

my bitrate is not an issue and neither is my hardware. i have plenty of both.

so what are some SETTINGS that you guys use that are good for it to LOOK AWESOME

If nothing is a problem, here's my suggestion:

Under the video tab in settings:

Encoder = VP6
Output = (Whatever you set your SC2 resolution to be). If you're running SC2 in windows mode, I'd suggest either 1024x768 if your livestream channel is 4:3, or 1366x768 if your livestream channel is 16. If you're using broadcast screen mode, then you'd want to look at the numbers in the top middle and right middle of the procaster recording area, and use those numbers.
Aspect Ratio = Doesn't matter.
Target Frame Rate = 25
Target bitrate = 1000
Keyframe Intervals = Doesn't matter.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Sunflash
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 05:05:59
October 21 2010 05:03 GMT
#20
I hate to revive old topics, but I'm going through the same stuff right now. My biggest question is what sort of upload speed do you need to be able to run with higher quality streams? I did a speedtest and found that my upload speed is roughly .74mb/s (~757kbps). I figured that if I made sure that my total bitrate (video + audio) was lower than 650kbps than I would be fine, but I can barely pump out 15 frames per second, and it constantly drops to just few frames all the time. I have a quad core (@2.83ghz per core) and 4gb of ram so I'm sure I have enough processing power. I guess I'm just theorizing this incorrectly?

Can some of you guys post what your upload speeds are? All the threads about "settings" is useless if we don't know what sort of upload speeds your running off of.

EDIT: Btw all the research I've done on the encoder seems to return that H.262 is higher quality and lower in size than VP6, and several streaming tutorials I've read say not to even bother with VP6 anymore. Can someone else confirm this?
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