burrow in zvt - Page 2

hempLine

Canada63 Posts

January 28 2010 19:34 GMT

#21

It would be a waste of time for something like that, but people have used burrow in the early games to prevent the player from getting expo's, or mineral jumping or Boxer and his crazy ling micro (vid on youtube) But for something like defiler I don't think that would be worth it, if a T see's a burrowed unit with a vessal he can easily just send 2 rines and blow it away.

StRyKeR

United States1755 Posts

January 28 2010 19:35 GMT

#22

As many have mentioned, you should ALWAYS get burrow after Hive in case he does an eraser attack. That shit kills so many drones. It's like a moving psi storm.

Abenson

Canada4122 Posts

January 28 2010 19:39 GMT

#23

Well... As a nooby Zerg player, I find burrow extremely useful against harass/drops (reaver, eraser crap) It's must easier to just Ctrl-click your drones and burrow then running them and sending reinforcements.. But then again it's just cuz my apm isn't really high.

jblack

Canada14 Posts

January 28 2010 19:46 GMT

#24

i was thinking that as a semi-cheesey creative strategy for ZvT... if you scouted your opponent, and they were going for 1 rax into expand, if you put a small contain on with zerglings so they build their CC in their base and lift it over... then rushed burrow before lair, and burrowed a zergling in their natural expansion you could delay their expo until after they get scan. erstwhile rushing lurkers... i haven't tested it out and i dont know if the timing would work... but the economic damage of delaying a their expo by about a minute, and forcing them to waste their first scan thus buying you another little while to get lurkers into play... and if your micro was pretty excellent and you wanted to be really cute... even after they scanned your burrowed ling and killed it... if you sneak in another zergling to sit where the scanner add-on would normally go to delay their scan further...

but maybe 10 hatch @ expo (extractor cancel), pool, extractor, drone, drone, overlord... work your way up to about a control group of lings while researching burrow... and with your next 100 gas go lair to lurker tech

it would only work as a counter to a semi-fast expand, and could be foiled if they were getting an early engineering bay anyway and just built a turret... or if they just decided to build more barracks and do 1 base M&Ms and did a timing push before your lurkers were up... not to mention losing 100 gas so early in the game could be a huge economic hit... but if it was pulled off perfectly i think it would at least be as effective as something like a manner pylon or manner engineering bay... and if you got your opponent to use up their first scan they might be ill prepared for your lurkers... but it could also end up as an epic fail and make you look stupid.

ShaLLoW[baY]

Canada12499 Posts

January 28 2010 19:47 GMT

#25

On January 29 2010 00:50 Rhaegar99 wrote:
I remember a game where some zerg burrowed zerglings on the ramp to his third. The terran saw somehow knew the expo was there and send his mnm to destroy. Zerg then unborrowed them ontop of the mnm. Forgot what the end result was though.

I believe that (Z)

YellOw was the Zerg. His Zerglings all got shredded and he lost his third soon after, from what I remember

Durak

Canada3685 Posts

January 28 2010 19:49 GMT

#26

Burrowing defilers as a counter to science vessels is absolutely useless. It would be much better to put them in overlords, especially if you have speed upgraded.

Mortician

Bulgaria2332 Posts

January 28 2010 19:54 GMT

#27

On January 28 2010 23:21 XaraCoS wrote:
I was just thinking, would it be worth getting burrow in zvt.. so you can burrow defiler so vessel cant irradiate them??

Dou didn't just say that lol

StRyKeR

United States1755 Posts

January 28 2010 19:56 GMT

#28

I have had some success using Burrow with Defilers for defense.

It's usually not time critical since when you're setting up defense, you have some time. What you do is burrow the Defiler and put Lings on top of it so that it's impossible to immediately irradiate the Defiler. You can also put a bunch of Overlords on top as well. To select the Defiler yourself, just mass click and isolate the picture.

Often, they don't even know there's a Defiler cuz there's so much shit on top of the burrowed unit.

This way, you'll always have a Defiler there to put up a defensive swarm and not get picked off by Irradiate.

spoolinoveryou

United States503 Posts

January 28 2010 22:22 GMT

#29

Jaedong vs Stork on Return of the King.

he uses burrowed lings to watch stork leave his base when going corsair reaver.. also burrows drones when reaver tries to harass.

Edit: i just realized this was a ZvT thread. hopefully this will give you some kind of idea for something. like burrowing drones when seeing an eraser on your mineral line.