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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
January 22 2010 00:21 GMT
#1
So my last blog was a brag about how I made it to b-, (Well, dodging vt's anyways)

And now I think I'm only in a d+ range at best. I just got owned by a 94 apm protoss.

I tried to split fighting spirit in half. Instead I got my entire army statised and 1a2a3a'd to oblivion.

I think I might quit sc now or switch to protoss since its so much easier.

*
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
January 22 2010 00:22 GMT
#2
gotta love P's
cw)minsean(ru
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
January 22 2010 00:24 GMT
#3
EMP is a good counter to stasis. Also, non-clumped up tanks.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
January 22 2010 00:28 GMT
#4
Kwark?
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 22 2010 00:29 GMT
#5
(P)Liquid`Nazgul, (P)Grrrr... (T)FiSheYe[pG] among low-apm protosses.... 90-140 apm i think...
dont get hurt over his apm
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 22 2010 00:29 GMT
#6
I played a game yesterday and killed the zergs main and still lost. how sad is that.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
January 22 2010 00:31 GMT
#7
On January 22 2010 09:29 LuckyFool wrote:
I played a game yesterday and killed the zergs main and still lost. how sad is that.

Why is that sad? I'm sure there's more to the story....like you had to sacrific something to accomplish killing his main.
Liquid | SKT
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 00:35:45
January 22 2010 00:35 GMT
#8
On January 22 2010 09:29 Bill Murray wrote:
(P)Liquid`Nazgul, (P)Grrrr... (T)FiSheYe[pG] among low-apm protosses.... 90-140 apm i think...
dont get hurt over his apm


Too bad they were active like only 7 years ago or so when a common D+/C- level player (edit: of today) would be one of the top players at the time.

iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 22 2010 00:38 GMT
#9
It isn't possible to quit starcraft.

If you are anywhere near the B- rank you aren't a D+ level player. You might not be B- level but you are surely above D+. Just keep working at it and if you are getting so frustrated you talk about quitting bw then you need a new approach. Who cares about a ICCUP game?

If you are still having problems PM me and I will look over a rep or two to help. And no I am not asking for money.. just hate seeing someone unhappy with scbw >_<
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
January 22 2010 00:38 GMT
#10
On January 22 2010 09:29 LuckyFool wrote:
I played a game yesterday and killed the zergs main and still lost. how sad is that.


I played a game today, saw a guy is going 2 gate lots, made proxy gate and fast dark templars, began to rape his main while he had no detection only one cannon in nat, double expanded, and still lost in 20 minutes. How fucking SAD is that.

P is so easy.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
January 22 2010 00:40 GMT
#11
You're B- and still didnt realize how overrated apm is?
BW fighting!
win8282
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)454 Posts
January 22 2010 00:46 GMT
#12
The question is... was the protoss guy a legit D+ player (as in not a smurf)?

andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 00:46:26
January 22 2010 00:46 GMT
#13
On January 22 2010 09:40 538 wrote:
You're B- and still didnt realize how overrated apm is?

94 apm is so slow though
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 22 2010 00:49 GMT
#14
no no no we need terrans like you to play terran
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Tfact_rats
Profile Joined November 2009
175 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 00:51:54
January 22 2010 00:51 GMT
#15
LOL I like what incontrol said.. it isn't possible to quit SC...

everyone has said reasonable things so far.. I'm paranoid enough to run the game through bwchart or some other software and see if the Fuck was cheating..

did he get a 12 nex off on you? if so it might just be a BO win.. We'd all like to see the rep if possible
3a4a5a6a7a8a3a4a5a6a7a8a
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17082 Posts
January 22 2010 00:55 GMT
#16
Did you play me? :<
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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
January 22 2010 00:57 GMT
#17
Just looked him up on iccup, he's a 56-104 currently, and his best last season was c-.

I don't think I'll actually quit sc but ARRRG it was just a stupid loss. I can't believe I lost to somebody like him since I know I could have played soooooo much better.

Biggest factor was probably me not getting my gas geysers even though I had 4 available, I only took like 1.5. This led to lack of vessals/upgrades/tanks. and me floating like 6k minerals trying to build supplies to keep up with like 8 fact vulture which are cheap as hell and build so quick.

Not to mention I lost like 12 tanks really early on trying to push too early/contain him to his bridge, which is how I won all my c+ games last season doing almost the same thing. So no gas to replenish tanks = 30+ vultures getting owned.

http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=29482 The link if anybody wants to see how a terran can get owned.

All this said, I think I'm going to play some more. Like people have said, its pretty hard to actually quit. Just gotta rage a bit.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
January 22 2010 00:59 GMT
#18
Wish it was possible for a b- protoss to get owned by a 94 apm terran in mid-late game... Your main problem was trying to split fighting spirit with a toss and letting him play pure macro (all his apm affords).
Yhamm is the god of predictions
TeH_Mentalist
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Korea (South)244 Posts
January 22 2010 01:03 GMT
#19
On January 22 2010 09:29 LuckyFool wrote:
I played a game yesterday and killed the zergs main and still lost. how sad is that.

I played 8 games yesterday trying to replicate Movie's strategy with insuffecient micro and timing and game sense. I ended up losing 8 times pretty much the same way. Definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting the same results so i guess im just insane
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 01:15:35
January 22 2010 01:06 GMT
#20
On January 22 2010 09:21 randombum wrote:
So my last blog was a brag about how I made it to b-, (Well, dodging vt's anyways)

And now I think I'm only in a d+ range at best. I just got owned by a 94 apm protoss.

I tried to split fighting spirit in half. Instead I got my entire army statised and 1a2a3a'd to oblivion.

I think I might quit sc now or switch to protoss since its so much easier.

This was me rofl.
http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/189603/1x1.html

edit: Just watched the replay. You need to use emp. Arbiters won the game.
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
January 22 2010 01:14 GMT
#21
AND THE PLOT THICKENS
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
January 22 2010 01:17 GMT
#22
rofl, i love it when this happens
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 01:18:47
January 22 2010 01:18 GMT
#23
Dont worry i lost to a person who had 30 apm...
...
...fucking proxy gateway
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
January 22 2010 01:21 GMT
#24
On January 22 2010 09:51 Tfact_rats wrote:
LOL I like what incontrol said.. it isn't possible to quit SC...

everyone has said reasonable things so far.. I'm paranoid enough to run the game through bwchart or some other software and see if the Fuck was cheating..

did he get a 12 nex off on you? if so it might just be a BO win.. We'd all like to see the rep if possible

No, I wasn't cheating. I did not get a bo win. He actually had a huge advantage as he was on 4 base and I was on 3 for quite awhile. It was a long macro game. I win with arbiters.
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=29488
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 22 2010 01:23 GMT
#25
On January 22 2010 10:21 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 09:51 Tfact_rats wrote:
LOL I like what incontrol said.. it isn't possible to quit SC...

everyone has said reasonable things so far.. I'm paranoid enough to run the game through bwchart or some other software and see if the Fuck was cheating..

did he get a 12 nex off on you? if so it might just be a BO win.. We'd all like to see the rep if possible

No, I wasn't cheating. I did not get a bo win. He actually had a huge advantage as he was on 4 base and I was on 3 for quite awhile. It was a long macro game. I win with arbiters.
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=29488

Arbiters is cheating.

+ Show Spoiler +
HEYO!


just kidding
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
January 22 2010 01:25 GMT
#26
i 5 pooled l10f on bgh and scouted him first try on really close positions. I killed first lot and pylon and i still lost. If this did not happen to you do not go talking about quitting sc.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11601 Posts
January 22 2010 01:28 GMT
#27
On January 22 2010 09:29 LuckyFool wrote:
I played a game yesterday and killed the zergs main and still lost. how sad is that.


you also lost to a proxy hatchery in your main, who only made like 4-6 zerglings with it.
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
January 22 2010 01:35 GMT
#28
On January 22 2010 10:25 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
i 5 pooled l10f on bgh and scouted him first try on really close positions. I killed first lot and pylon and i still lost. If this did not happen to you do not go talking about quitting sc.

wtf how do you lose that!
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
January 22 2010 01:37 GMT
#29
On January 22 2010 10:35 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 10:25 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
i 5 pooled l10f on bgh and scouted him first try on really close positions. I killed first lot and pylon and i still lost. If this did not happen to you do not go talking about quitting sc.

wtf how do you lose that!


because it was bgh, losing the pylon means NOTHING because you can use probes to kill the weakened lings and 2 more zealots are on the way.
Hi.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 22 2010 01:38 GMT
#30
On January 22 2010 10:25 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
i 5 pooled l10f on bgh and scouted him first try on really close positions. I killed first lot and pylon and i still lost. If this did not happen to you do not go talking about quitting sc.

Man ils, I am massively disappointed. How could you lose to such a newb with such a BO win?
God Bless
Tfact_rats
Profile Joined November 2009
175 Posts
January 22 2010 01:43 GMT
#31
ya so just like in Tennis anyone can beat anyone once... you were probably tired.. I wouldn't beat yourself up too much.. if you had more gas and a way to pack more factories in you would have been fine.. looks like he got some easy kills from stasis his apm was 100 and yours was 200+ in the meat of the game.
3a4a5a6a7a8a3a4a5a6a7a8a
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
January 22 2010 01:47 GMT
#32
lol @ tennis reference
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Ranix
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States666 Posts
January 22 2010 01:53 GMT
#33
On January 22 2010 10:43 Tfact_rats wrote:
ya so just like in Tennis anyone can beat anyone once... you were probably tired..


..wait, what?
Legends never gg
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 22 2010 01:59 GMT
#34
anyone can beat anyone once. one game doesn't mean shit. I lose to D people all the time when I don't give a shit or am just fucking around with a joke build.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 22 2010 02:05 GMT
#35
On January 22 2010 10:59 LuckyFool wrote:
anyone can beat anyone once. one game doesn't mean shit. I lose to D people all the time when I don't give a shit or am just fucking around with a joke build.

that is why i gg no re.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
January 22 2010 02:09 GMT
#36
On January 22 2010 09:38 ondik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 09:29 LuckyFool wrote:
I played a game yesterday and killed the zergs main and still lost. how sad is that.


I played a game today, saw a guy is going 2 gate lots, made proxy gate and fast dark templars, began to rape his main while he had no detection only one cannon in nat, double expanded, and still lost in 20 minutes. How fucking SAD is that.

P is so easy.

i lost TWO games today where i was at about 5 base before they even took there third with tons of hatches and lost. gotta love mech on desti.
Better than Pokebunny
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 22 2010 02:13 GMT
#37
On January 22 2010 10:28 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 09:29 LuckyFool wrote:
I played a game yesterday and killed the zergs main and still lost. how sad is that.


you also lost to a proxy hatchery in your main, who only made like 4-6 zerglings with it.
yeah well I was doing dumb all in cheese and playing on a laggy pc with a horrible keyboard for that game so yeah w/e rofl.
Jaxtyk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States600 Posts
January 22 2010 02:21 GMT
#38
Play SC until ur fingers bleed and ull be better. =]
To tell the truth....I could beat anyone in the world.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12815 Posts
January 22 2010 02:22 GMT
#39
On January 22 2010 09:29 LuckyFool wrote:
I played a game yesterday and killed the zergs main and still lost. how sad is that.


cool, i won a game today where I lost my main. how cool is that!!
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 02:27:56
January 22 2010 02:27 GMT
#40
terran can *nearly* NEVER WIN after losing a main. protoss and zerg can ezly it's retarded as shit.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
January 22 2010 02:57 GMT
#41
On January 22 2010 11:27 LuckyFool wrote:
terran can *nearly* NEVER WIN after losing a main. protoss and zerg can ezly it's retarded as shit.
terran can make a billion good units off of two bases. zerg either needs to expand six times to get enough money or they will just have excess minerals with nothing to build (unless you go mass overlords+lings). good thing we have mobile doom cannons that can hide behind walls made of buildings that give you supply and have repairable/healable buildings/tanks.
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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 03:24:38
January 22 2010 03:23 GMT
#42
On January 22 2010 11:57 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 11:27 LuckyFool wrote:
terran can *nearly* NEVER WIN after losing a main. protoss and zerg can ezly it's retarded as shit.
terran can make a billion good units off of two bases. zerg either needs to expand six times to get enough money or they will just have excess minerals with nothing to build (unless you go mass overlords+lings). good thing we have mobile doom cannons that can hide behind walls made of buildings that give you supply and have repairable/healable buildings/tanks.


Yeah guardians are good right?

On January 22 2010 10:38 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 10:25 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
i 5 pooled l10f on bgh and scouted him first try on really close positions. I killed first lot and pylon and i still lost. If this did not happen to you do not go talking about quitting sc.

Man ils, I am massively disappointed. How could you lose to such a newb with such a BO win?


BGH rush/scout distance is monstrous unless it was 11/12
Hi.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
January 22 2010 03:32 GMT
#43
On January 22 2010 09:29 Bill Murray wrote:
(P)Liquid`Nazgul, (P)Grrrr... (T)FiSheYe[pG] among low-apm protosses.... 90-140 apm i think...
dont get hurt over his apm


Except that Giyom was pretty fast for his era. 140 apm before BWChart and free-clicking and all that nonsense was really, really good.

140 apm players of today don't use those clicks nearly as efficiently.

On January 22 2010 09:35 resonance wrote:
Too bad they were active like only 7 years ago or so when a common D+/C- level player (edit: of today) would be one of the top players at the time.


No. D+ players simply do not understand the game. Maybe a D+ player would win the first 1 or 2 games with modernized build orders, but a player as smart as one of those guys would figure out how to butt rape that D+ player pretty damn quickly. Not to mention, the mechanics of a typical D+ player are abysmal and not nearly as good as "S-class" players even from 10 years ago. You really need to get to at least mid/high C's before you get players who would clean house if they were sent back in a time machine, possibly even higher than that.

On January 22 2010 09:38 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
It isn't possible to quit starcraft.


Understatement of the century. This game is crack in CD format.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Tossim111
Profile Joined October 2009
United States246 Posts
January 22 2010 04:22 GMT
#44
On January 22 2010 09:35 resonance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 09:29 Bill Murray wrote:
(P)Liquid`Nazgul, (P)Grrrr... (T)FiSheYe[pG] among low-apm protosses.... 90-140 apm i think...
dont get hurt over his apm


Too bad they were active like only 7 years ago or so when a common D+/C- level player (edit: of today) would be one of the top players at the time.




no..? nazgul got b last season in tsl with 66% win-ratio
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
January 22 2010 05:51 GMT
#45
On January 22 2010 10:38 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 10:25 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
i 5 pooled l10f on bgh and scouted him first try on really close positions. I killed first lot and pylon and i still lost. If this did not happen to you do not go talking about quitting sc.

Man ils, I am massively disappointed. How could you lose to such a newb with such a BO win?


BGH rush/scout distance is monstrous unless it was 11/12[/QUOTE]
it was 7 vs 9.

ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
January 22 2010 06:02 GMT
#46
Mastermind is pretty decent actually, if you ignore his apm and record for this season. He usually beats my C-/C zerg, and about 190-200apm as well :S
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
January 22 2010 18:55 GMT
#47
I don't see how you could go from B- to D+. I think you're just in a slump.
TeH_Mentalist
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Korea (South)244 Posts
January 22 2010 23:48 GMT
#48
heh Now u need to practice late game!
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