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[Theory] Pirating = Marketing

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Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 06:31:55
January 18 2010 06:31 GMT
#1
Yup, well not everything that is pirated will be good for business, and we all know that the corporations are raging because some of the best games/movies and programs are being pirated by this crackers.. but listen to this blog and I might have a certain point.

Yes, I know it's contradicting the title but please hear me out.

As we all know, pirating of softwares/movies/games is the cancer of big companies and corporations. They will are going to fucked up sale volumes or the company wouldn't be able to sell a dime because all their copies where sold by pirates like Jack Sparrow.

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But try to think of the larger picture, think of Starcraft, Counter-Strike, Call of Duty 4 and 6 etc. These are very epic games that you might think of buying for game collection and the shit.

of course, I have this experience of using a lot of stuff that isn't "legit". Being in a third-world country when pirating laws is pretty weak it's a big privilege for us

but the thing is, I had this beautiful experience. I want to buy an original Starcraft Battlechest and maybe call of duty 4 and 6 because I want to have a collection of them.

Also, I'm experiencing some type of dilemma right now:

should I wait for another crack or just buy the damn game!

Yes, modern warfare 2 fans! I'm willing to shell out some bucks to buy an original of this game... because, I had a taste of it's multiplayer flaws and prowess (even though I know that a lot of you guys hate this shit)

I was able to play a cracked version of this from 166 to 174, now since IW and Steam is winning the battle against the pirates. I'm beginning to feel a little dissatisfied, I want more than playing this for a few weeks! and the only thing to do is BUY A GOD DAMN ORIGINAL COPY.

Now on the OP TOPIC:

Could it be possible that, IW or any other games that been epic and was pirated by the millions. Was just waiting for the right opportunity to "KABAM" kick the living hell out of the pirates to buy the damn original stock? Since right now this is what I feel.

And yeah, there was an article that Bill Gates loved how China was using his OS

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/07/23/100134488/

Anyway discuss!


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love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 06:39:13
January 18 2010 06:37 GMT
#2
Pirating = desparate all-in response to nuclear waste dumping at natural.
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 18 2010 06:38 GMT
#3
I don't think the current business model of developers supports a consumer base that largely pirates, but I also think it is easily possible to create a business model that does just fine in an unrestricted version of the internet.

You could probably just google it though... This argument is almost as done to death as religion.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 06:48:31
January 18 2010 06:45 GMT
#4
To me, pirating anything seems to be such a cheat. Ya ya i know someone "technically" shared the materials with you but come you have to know when to draw the line. Now I will say this sometimes i will "pirate" a CD or Movie just to try it out and see if i like it if i do i buy it, but if I don't well then i just delete it from my hard drive.

But the question is should you buy the game? I would and so should you. If you really value the company's hard work and effort that they put into the game, you will show your appreciation with your wallet. Yes i know you can still appreciate something and get it for free/pirate it i understand that, but if you really appreciate the work, then you will give up some of your hard earned money for something that they made with there hard earned money.

Btw I'm not opposed to piracy. I just have opinions about it. :p

Also a site called gog.com, a place where you can buy retro games, encourages you to share the produce you have purchased with as many people as you like.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 18 2010 06:55 GMT
#5
Right now, copyrights to games are bought and sold long after the sales benefit the people who made the game. You shouldn't torrent new games, but I wouldn't feel bad about "stealing" from someone who's just trying to make a quick buck off someone else's work.
overpool
Profile Joined April 2008
United States191 Posts
January 18 2010 06:58 GMT
#6
It's pretty obvious that most people pirate because they don't want to pay money. Very few software pirates end up purchasing the application. Whether they would have bought it in the first place, of course, is debatable to some degree.
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coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
January 18 2010 07:04 GMT
#7
I have never bought a software in my life. And i am all proud of it


LONG LIVE TO PIRACY
Jävla skit
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
January 18 2010 07:11 GMT
#8
When people (like me) pirate movies made like 50 years ago or games that are practically abandonware, I think there is no reason to be upset.
KTY
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
January 18 2010 07:16 GMT
#9
When a market fails due to in-excludability and no-rivalry, well... something needs to change. =/
darkness overpowering
Elaeli
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany62 Posts
January 18 2010 07:33 GMT
#10
There just aren't many games worth buying. Do you expect me to pay 50€ for five hours of entertainment from CoD's single player campaign? Or one hour for C&C before deinstalling in disgust? Really good games you play for YEARS are a rare.

They should just use subscription models for payment if they want to sell their products for their true value. Something along the lines of "pay x per week, and if you have paid x*y, you 'own' the game as if you had bought it with a one-time payment and can play without further subscription fees". Would change nothing price-wise if you want to play the game for a long time, only that you don't feel ripped off if you didn't like the game in the first place.

And that would stop pirating in addition as you need some verification of your payment to play in the first place.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 18 2010 07:40 GMT
#11
On January 18 2010 16:04 coltrane wrote:
I have never bought a software in my life. And i am all proud of it


LONG LIVE TO PIRACY


Why would you be proud of that?
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Guilford
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia290 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 08:51:19
January 18 2010 08:28 GMT
#12
I pirate a lot but that's simply because I can't afford to pay for all those content. But when ever the price comes down to a point that I can afford, I will buy it. I have bought a lot of steam games when they had those 80%-50% discount . If the pirated games turn out to be bad, I wouldn't buy them. Sometimes I think the demos of many games are not enough to judge a game. It's a good idea for the industry to work with the pirates but I think it would be long before the change is made.
Being forgotten is worse than death.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4835 Posts
January 18 2010 08:29 GMT
#13
Piracy is the ultimate form of product review. If you really like a product after experiencing it, buy it. Otherwise, don't.
My strategy is to fork people.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 18 2010 08:32 GMT
#14
On January 18 2010 17:29 Severedevil wrote:
Piracy is the ultimate form of product review. If you really like a product after experiencing it, buy it. Otherwise, don't.


I'm willing to bet >20% of people actually do this, but i may be wrong.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Jaxtyk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States600 Posts
January 18 2010 09:07 GMT
#15
Why pay for something when u can get it free? I dont get u guys lol.
To tell the truth....I could beat anyone in the world.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 09:09:02
January 18 2010 09:08 GMT
#16
The only thing I never pirate are video games (and good movies)
gotta keep dat industry moving~
dats racist
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 10:44:59
January 18 2010 10:44 GMT
#17
I used to pirate games when i was a kid because i had no money and my parents didn't really allow me to buy games.

But nowadays my standards for video games are much more higher ( so i play less games and i'm willing to pay for good games ), i have a bit of money and i can buy PEGI 18 np.
Moreover i think that pirated stuff is messy, it was ok to download a 300mb game but new games are huge ( xxGb ) and need 20 patches to run smoothly.
So yea pirating games sucks. And if i'm broke or don't want to pay 50 euros for a not so good game i just wait for the prices to drop.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
January 18 2010 11:12 GMT
#18
What you say may be true for multiplayer games, but certainly piracy hurts singleplayer / coop games.
I'm not opposed to copying a game you'll only play once on a LAN or something. Or pirating abandon-ware is no problem either since they don't want to sell it anymore.
But ultimately we have to support the games we like, or we'll only get shitty console ports.
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 12:05:52
January 18 2010 12:03 GMT
#19
the problem with buying things as opposed to piracy is the ability to cut out the middle men. A good example would be buying a CD off the actual artist at a show instead of walking into a store and paying whatever markup price.
I'm all for supporting the artist/creator but I don't wanna support some 3rd party vendor, ad agency, money grubbing record label, or whatever else. Also, I'm poor And I believe in equality. I wanna be able to have all the shit that rich people overpay for frivolously and ruin the standard for the rest of us. Gotta balance it out.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32044 Posts
January 18 2010 13:44 GMT
#20
On January 18 2010 17:32 Saturnize wrote:
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On January 18 2010 17:29 Severedevil wrote:
Piracy is the ultimate form of product review. If you really like a product after experiencing it, buy it. Otherwise, don't.


I'm willing to bet >20% of people actually do this, but i may be wrong.

Probably more like 5% and to call pirating marketing is such a stupid cop out for a reason of why you're stealing something... just call it what it is. Demos are made for a reason.
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