On January 18 2010 12:22 CaucasianAsian wrote:
My previous team, Revoltados, which has recently had sponsorship issues due to them dropping the BW team (basically founder of the team went inactive and had another guy deal with sponsorships, and he didn't like the BW team because we were an old game, and sponsors didn't approve because we brought in the best results, so they stopped sponsoring the entire team and the team fell apart). But anyways, my team Revoltados, went from starting as a no body, to in our peak crushing F2F and other division 1 teams with a 4-1 or 5-0 score. We started with C rank players and ended with A-/B+ players. The only way to do this is to show great manners, and a family/friendship atmosphere. I still talk/play with many ex players from my team who have moved to other various sponsored teams.
You have to show manners to the scene which will attract people, and a little bit of money/gifts from sponsors doesn't hurt at all.
Can you explain to me exactly how did you start from C and end up A/B+? Was this just training of your own players or recruitment? If it was recruitment - how did you achieve it; considering you had lower ranks than the people recruited?
I have some plans to build a team in starcraft 2, thus Im interested in how it works, as probably the same rules apply to BW.
People like Koll can obviously go from 0 to B+ in course of a year; Im not sure if this is just the case for the clans. As I wrote personally I struggle at C- aftear many years of playing this game; although in the past I was better.
wow, i now have zero respect for team MB. I now know to never offer to join your team. Calling people who are within the top 50 in the foreigner scene 'no bodies" when they are considered somebody here is just a face palm, and a slap in the face.
If you want to get good players, don't say people who you would beg for (TSL Qualifying people) are nobodies and you don't care about them.
I do not represent team MB lol; where did you get the idea?
IMO a lot of players can achieve 9000 points, or what exactly was needed for TSL. No offense, but those last people qualified only because the better players got disqualified.
And by "high" I mean 6000 pts+ (or even less, basically "higher than me" so C/C+ is enough; when my own level is C-).
What exactly do you mean by showing manners to the scene? I have two contributions to the scene which I consider worth something; it never benefited neither me, nor any of my clans.
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On January 18 2010 12:25 Infested Terran wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2010 12:22 CaucasianAsian wrote:
wow, i now have zero respect for team MB. I now know to never offer to join your team. Calling people who are within the top 50 in the foreigner scene 'no bodies" when they are considered somebody here is just a face palm, and a slap in the face.
If you want to get good players, don't say people who you would beg for (TSL Qualifying people) are nobodies and you don't care about them.
My previous team, Revoltados, which has recently had sponsorship issues due to them dropping the BW team (basically founder of the team went inactive and had another guy deal with sponsorships, and he didn't like the BW team because we were an old game, and sponsors didn't approve because we brought in the best results, so they stopped sponsoring the entire team and the team fell apart). But anyways, my team Revoltados, went from starting as a no body, to in our peak crushing F2F and other division 1 teams with a 4-1 or 5-0 score. We started with C rank players and ended with A-/B+ players. The only way to do this is to show great manners, and a family/friendship atmosphere. I still talk/play with many ex players from my team who have moved to other various sponsored teams.
You have to show manners to the scene which will attract people, and a little bit of money/gifts from sponsors doesn't hurt at all. Can you explain to me exactly how did you start from C and end up A/B+? Was this just training of your own players or recruitment? If it was recruitment - how did you achieve it?
Well when I joined the team was just sponsoring a few players in individual leagues and tournaments. I became the manager of the team within a few months, and really wanted to get the team on track for being the best there was. You had to start small, and recruited C rank players and we just became friends playing a game, we didn't play ladders much, instead we talked a ton on ventrillo/skype about strategies etc... while we played. We became not just a team, but more of a family. Some of the old members were ZeGa (now vSt.ZeGa), ShaK (retired A+ 2v2/B+ 1v1 player and now poker player, who was previously in 88) during it's prime way back in like 2003/2004) SiSiZZZ, TomaZZZ (B/B+ 2v2 players), Kr was with us for a while (A- protoss who qualified for TSL), SponkY (B- zerg player) and a few others who have slipped my mind).
With our own training, our skills skyrocketed, and pushed from division 4 on WGTCL to division 3. Then when we invited another player, drama ensued and the team fell apart. Once again I didn't give up hope and called on some old friends who I haven't talked to in a long time (NeX-Chobo and NeX-November) and we restarted the team. With their help we rebuilt the team, and grew even stronger to the point where we competed with top teams around the world, and even had a few WCG participants.
I think the best way to insure that your team will succeed is to NOT treat it like a team. Instead more of a strong friendship. Keep insisting to play with your teammates, talk over skype/ventrillo, and within time your overall skills will improve, and better players will want to join. It's not going to be instant, hell it took 3 years for Revoltados to go from a nobody team where we always were expect to lose on Gosubets (GG.net's liquibet for foriengers) to when we got 100% expected favorites and we gave such results, even against teams such as Lyra (Russian team that was in division 1 in WGTCL/ICCUP/BWCL at the time, i dont know if they're still around)
And make sure manners are always shown. Because even when you post on TeamLiquid or when your nerdraging in a starcraft game on iccup, people are watching you. And they will infer your team reacts the same way you do, and can give you either good or bad publicity. I can't tell you how many times I had to turn down applications to the team because they were bad mannered once or twice, because it can really effect your teams image. This is why MainLine Gaming (ex g4i team, which I had been invited to but decided not to join) has had such bad publicity a the moment, because they invited players such as Dino (TSL season 1 player) and Gosi[Terran] (TSL 2 player) who have poor images. I know JoeKim personally, and he is a great guy, very mannered and very cool. Yet I wouldn't be able to join the team because they have some players who give the team a bad image, and I don't want that around me.
Be very selective of who joins your team, and when they join, treat them and everyone else with utmost respect, even if they bad manner you, or if you believe they deserve it. Because it will come around to haunt you, if not now then in the future.
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