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After many years of playing starcraft I joined a clan. For real. I mean, in the past I have joined many clans; in fact about 50-60, but mostly I just tried to humiliate the recruiters and never be seen again.
Anyway; the clan turned out to be pretty good; but few months later
1) best terran player got sponsored and quit
2) good/best protoss player got sponsored and quit
3) good/best protoss(?) player was the only one playing bwcl consistently, thus he decided to quit
4) good/best zerg saw that 1,2 and 3 quit, so he went inactive
Basically the whole 1v1 lineup died; and one of the good 2v2 players quit.
It is good and bad.
On one part people like me can play in clan wars, which leads to terrible resutls (like 3-7 in matches); but on the other hand it's just constant deteriration.
We have really many players but most of them are randoms who dont really talk on the channel and are C tops. Myself I am C- tops, so I shouldnt complain (ok, maybe Im C+ in ZvZ, but I never face zerg opponents in 1v1); but Ive started to wonder; how can we recruit better players?
Is there any way, apart from rising them? And no, we dont want to sponsor anyone.
 
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Make your clan do something big that figuratively paints red arrows pointing toward your clan name when someone thinks about it
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Unless you have something to offer them that they can't get somewhere else... you're probably not gonna get top players Although you can try to lure them in with peanut butter. Then trap them once they're there
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Pay the 10ish dollars for the adspot on teamliquid.
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Barely understand the OP, half the content is not even related to the topic.
From what I gather you want players better than yourself to join your clan, which will rarely ever happen. Nobody wants to join a team where the players are worse because the joiner won't improve. The only reason a better player would join a lower-leveled team is the opportunity to get sponsored/make money.
You can only expect to get people who are your level or slightly lower to join.
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Other clans have sponsorships to offer.
You, have nothing.
Other players go to other clans --> the other clan also now has better players (skillwise) to offer as well.
You, still have nothing.
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Technically my clan is in a really high bwcl division; around 5-15 people ask to join weekly, most of them are pretty bad though; we also have around 10-20 active members daily.
This would be the "selling point"
I dont really understand why would anyone go to a "good clan", just to be a B-teamer that never plays; which leads me to the question if I really want to recruit better people : -)
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On January 18 2010 09:17 Infested Terran wrote:
Technically my clan is in a really high bwcl division; around 5-15 people ask to join weekly, most of them are pretty bad though; we also have around 10-20 active members daily.
This would be the "selling point"
I dont really understand why would anyone go to a "good clan", just to be a B-teamer that never plays; which leads me to the question if I really want to recruit better people : -)
Example. C player wants to join a clan. He sees your clan and he sees another clan. Youre clan is very active withi other C-, C players. The other clan is B+/A- players, but they are occasionally on. Who would you rather play with to learn more? People your own skill level or ppl who are much higher than you and can help you more?
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What is your clan called?
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iNcontroL
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rename thread title to: How much $ to get high level players to a clan?
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On January 18 2010 09:22 TeH_Mentalist wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2010 09:17 Infested Terran wrote:
Technically my clan is in a really high bwcl division; around 5-15 people ask to join weekly, most of them are pretty bad though; we also have around 10-20 active members daily.
This would be the "selling point"
I dont really understand why would anyone go to a "good clan", just to be a B-teamer that never plays; which leads me to the question if I really want to recruit better people : -) Example. C player wants to join a clan. He sees your clan and he sees another clan. Youre clan is very active withi other C-, C players. The other clan is B+/A- players, but they are occasionally on. Who would you rather play with to learn more? People your own skill level or ppl who are much higher than you and can help you more?
if you have iccup you dont really need a clan IMO...
I have never seen anyone who would in fact practice with the clan mates; unless he was friends with them
most of the sponsored clans are a bunch of people who just come to the CW and dissapear 10minutes later
Im takling about "middle clans", say lower than IG.
Not division 1..
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On January 18 2010 09:54 krndandaman wrote:
Dude you just got to know how to speak korean or be korean.
I'm C- korean-american and so are 2 of my friends.
Both of them are very fluent in korean and they chat up some people online in korean channel.
within a week, we have a former b-teamer on a progamer team who reached rank A before, 2 B-'s, and several C+'s in our clan.
We've already beaten clans such as Kwark's clan and others within the first week of recruiting rofl.
Yea I will learn korean just to recruit some idiots who dont even speak english and probably wont visit the forum. Not that I even think that what you wrote is real
You act as if korean players were gods or something; sorry to tell you that - most progamers play like crap, that's why they dont release the replays; and when you see the reps they often arent that far away from some random A iccup player (doesnt even have to be korean). Ok there are few exceptions witht the top progamers; but they still arent that great. Also how did you recruit them exactly? Pretended to be a girl and offered to suck their dicks? Do they even talk to you and play with you? Also, what do progamers have to do with searching for medicore players?
Good clans dont need koreans to play for them; also C+/B level can be achieved by like 15-20% of iccup players as far as I remember. Our current best player has a steady C+ rank methinks and wins vs anyone from the "semi good" clans.
I will also add that there were like 150+ progamers (Id risk saying that above 300 including all the B-teamers during all these years), and a progamer who cant achieve A+ sounds like some crappy practice partner. So go ahead and boast about beating Kwark (who the fuck is he anyway?).
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Generally you need to be good yourself to get players to join your clan  Nobody wants to join a clan with a bunch of terrible players. It would just feel like a waste of life and time.
Clans should be based on friendships in my opinion. And friendships in StarCraft are only built when you play people of similar skill level to you, or who are at least a good time. Otherwise there is basically no motivation to play with people you don't know, don't like, and who are bad at SC.
Optionally you can try to play in a more structured environment like CSL or whatever where people are on a team based on proximity and location, rather than because they want to win or get better.
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I know that argueing with random spawns on internet boards will definitely not get me any players, but the comments of the guy quoted below are so stupid that I had to reply to them.
Does anyone know a way to get decent players? Being in a nice clan war division doesnt seem to help.
On January 18 2010 10:07 krndandaman wrote:
Well I gave you a solution, I don't really care if you don't like it.
They are not gods, they are just much better than the general public as a whole typically.
"Progamers play like crap" - isn't that an oxymoron? Rofl.
He did achieve A+, he was rank #7 on the iccup ladder 5 years ago. He had to go for military service so he took a 4year hiatus from starcraft.
Kwark is a B+ guy, and his clan has Avi-Love (Know him from TSL?) even though Avi didnt play, i'd still say our performance is rather impressive for a new clan.
Dude I'm korean, my friends are korean, we're bi-lingual. So I don't mind if they only speak Korean to me. And why can't good clans have koreans? I thought koreans were nothing special according to you?
If its that easy to find C+/B level players, go ahead. You seem to have a good idea of making a good clan, go do it. Why ask for help here?
It's really hard to reply to your post without calling you a fucking idiot.
Basically you told me that in order to recruit C+/B players I need to learn Korean. You also believe that learning this pretty obscure (and useless) language can be done in reasonable time (dunno, 2 months? 6 months LOL) which only shows the level of your ignorance.
Then you brag that your clan beat Kwark (who the fuck is Kwark?) who is a B+ guy (so basically random player). and that your clan beat Avi-Love who also seems to be a noone. And no, I dont know him from TSL, despite the fact that he qualified. Congratulations on beating some no-names.
I dont think you need a progamer to do that.
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On January 18 2010 09:29 resonance wrote:
What is your clan called?
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On January 18 2010 10:31 resonance wrote:
why do you care?
let's say TOT
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On January 18 2010 10:38 Infested Terran wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2010 10:31 resonance wrote:On January 18 2010 09:29 resonance wrote:
What is your clan called? why do you care? let's say TOT
lol
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WHY DO PEOPLE CARE WHAT HIS CLAN NAME IS?
I DUNNO.. THE THREAD IS ABOUT YOUR CLAN ROLFFLF?
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On January 18 2010 10:59 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
WHY DO PEOPLE CARE WHAT HIS CLAN NAME IS?
I DUNNO.. THE THREAD IS ABOUT YOUR CLAN ROLFFLF?
Here comes my teamliquid hero!
How werent you banned during all those years?
Anyway, since you are mentally inferior I will explain to you:
-this thread is about how to recruit mediocre starcraft players
-I dont need to tell the name of the clan, because it is not relevant, as I want to recruit mediocre players
If you still dont understand this (which you probably dont! I know that you arent the sharpest tool in the shed) - when I make a thread asking for ZvT advice I dont give a link to my iccup profile (because this is irrelevant).
As usual; asking for advice on teamliquid was a big failure; it's usually the same.
Last time a good player posted here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80284
it ended the same - only flames and comments made by idiots.
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many great quotes in this thread
I mean, in the past I have joined many clans; in fact about 50-60, but mostly I just tried to humiliate the recruiters and never be seen again.
Technically my clan is in a really high bwcl division; around 5-15 people ask to join weekly, most of them are pretty bad though; we also have around 10-20 active members daily.
most progamers play like crap, that's why they dont release the replays; and when you see the reps they often arent that far away from some random A iccup player (doesnt even have to be korean). Ok there are few exceptions witht the top progamers; but they still arent that great.
C+/B level can be achieved by like 15-20% of iccup players as far as I remember. Our current best player has a steady C+ rank methinks and wins vs anyone from the "semi good" clans.
is this a troll?
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infested terran what were your accounts before this one?
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Can any mod close this please?
On January 18 2010 11:06 s_86 wrote:many great quotes in this thread Show nested quote +I mean, in the past I have joined many clans; in fact about 50-60, but mostly I just tried to humiliate the recruiters and never be seen again. Show nested quote +Technically my clan is in a really high bwcl division; around 5-15 people ask to join weekly, most of them are pretty bad though; we also have around 10-20 active members daily. Show nested quote +most progamers play like crap, that's why they dont release the replays; and when you see the reps they often arent that far away from some random A iccup player (doesnt even have to be korean). Ok there are few exceptions witht the top progamers; but they still arent that great. Show nested quote +C+/B level can be achieved by like 15-20% of iccup players as far as I remember. Our current best player has a steady C+ rank methinks and wins vs anyone from the "semi good" clans. is this a troll?
What part of it is untrue about my opinion on progamers which is debatable, but IMO correct? (look at blizzcon results; to some degree wcg results - didnt 'undefeatable monster' jaedong lose to an amateur russian terran?).
As for the fourth quote, just search for detailed iccup statiscs somewhere on this forum.
And if you dont believe that one can join multiple clans over the years you just show your complete ignorance.
On January 18 2010 11:03 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2010 10:16 Infested Terran wrote:I know that argueing with random spawns on internet boards will definitely not get me any players, but the comments of the guy quoted below are so stupid that I had to reply to them. Does anyone know a way to get decent players? Being in a nice clan war division doesnt seem to help. On January 18 2010 10:07 krndandaman wrote:
Well I gave you a solution, I don't really care if you don't like it.
They are not gods, they are just much better than the general public as a whole typically.
"Progamers play like crap" - isn't that an oxymoron? Rofl.
He did achieve A+, he was rank #7 on the iccup ladder 5 years ago. He had to go for military service so he took a 4year hiatus from starcraft.
Kwark is a B+ guy, and his clan has Avi-Love (Know him from TSL?) even though Avi didnt play, i'd still say our performance is rather impressive for a new clan.
Dude I'm korean, my friends are korean, we're bi-lingual. So I don't mind if they only speak Korean to me. And why can't good clans have koreans? I thought koreans were nothing special according to you?
If its that easy to find C+/B level players, go ahead. You seem to have a good idea of making a good clan, go do it. Why ask for help here? It's really hard to reply to your post without calling you a fucking idiot. Basically you told me that in order to recruit C+/B players I need to learn Korean. You also believe that learning this pretty obscure (and useless) language can be done in reasonable time (dunno, 2 months? 6 months LOL) which only shows the level of your ignorance. Then you brag that your clan beat Kwark (who the fuck is Kwark?) who is a B+ guy (so basically random player). and that your clan beat Avi-Love who also seems to be a noone. And no, I dont know him from TSL, despite the fact that he qualified. Congratulations on beating some no-names. I dont think you need a progamer to do that. Hey I got some tips for you. 1) Calm down. Take a breather. 2) I just gave you an option. If you don't want to take it, fine. I don't need you to go apeshit on an internet blog about it. If you're korean, it works for you. If not, it probably doesn't. 3)I'm not even going to comment on you calling the Korean language an obscure and useless language. Pure ignorance. And whats with the assumption that I think it takes a mere few months to learn the language? It's actually very hard. Took me years to speak fluently and I have parents who speak it. Shows your ignorance.
You just told me to learn Korean in order to recruit people to a clan. I ridiculed you by asking if this can be done in a reasonable time. Perhaps you should work on your English skills as you clearly have problems with sarcasm
4) I'm not bragging. Im using it as an example. Kwark didn't use his best line up so why would I brag? Also, if these players are 'no-names' who are you? No one is going to join your clan cause your skill level sucks and your social skills suck as well. Good luck finding any mannered good players by your ridiculous standards. (One who calls progamers nothing special and consider TSL qualifiers 'no-one'.)
5) I was partly joking.
if you arent bragging then why do you write this
ah; the typical explanation "it was a joke/provocation/I have been doing this for years"
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the guy who doesn't know how to recruit mediocre players is calling me mentally inferior roflflflfl
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On January 18 2010 11:05 Infested Terran wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2010 10:59 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
WHY DO PEOPLE CARE WHAT HIS CLAN NAME IS?
I DUNNO.. THE THREAD IS ABOUT YOUR CLAN ROLFFLF? Here comes my teamliquid hero! How werent you banned during all those years? Anyway, since you are mentally inferior I will explain to you: -this thread is about how to recruit mediocre starcraft players -I dont need to tell the name of the clan, because it is not relevant, as I want to recruit mediocre players If you still dont understand this (which you probably dont! I know that you arent the sharpest tool in the shed) - when I make a thread asking for ZvT advice I dont give a link to my iccup profile (because this is irrelevant). As usual; asking for advice on teamliquid was a big failure; it's usually the same. Last time a good player posted here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80284it ended the same - only flames and comments made by idiots.
Maybe the reason people flame you is because you kinda go off and flame people who are giving you advice. If you calm down and perhaps think a bit about the suggestions you can do something useful with them.
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infested terran do you play zerg or terran?
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Well; the obvious ways are to:
-make topics at boards (unique selling proposition "we have good position in leagues")
-make test games on iccup (lame "join clan xxx")
-ask clanmates to ask friends/good players they meet
-make clan maps
-organize events
-release clan replays (hard if you lost good players)
Maybe there is some other trick though. Since most of the mediocre clans dont organize any of those above, yet somehow manage to recruit mediocre players.
On January 18 2010 11:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
the guy who doesn't know how to recruit mediocre players is calling me mentally inferior roflflflfl
Maybe I have my own ideas; but would hear the ones made by others? Of course you dont have any, because you havent enlightened me so far. I PMed you btw.
On January 18 2010 11:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
infested terran do you play zerg or terran?
both
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those curious about the clan he's in:
1) best terran player got sponsored and quit
MorroW
2) good/best protoss player got sponsored and quit
Enivid
3) good/best protoss(?) player was the only one playing bwcl consistently, thus he decided to quit
Bonyth?
4) good/best zerg saw that 1,2 and 3 quit, so he went inactive
Spire? but he's b- this season, so I dunno
team = [MB]
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On January 18 2010 10:38 Infested Terran wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2010 10:31 resonance wrote:On January 18 2010 09:29 resonance wrote:
What is your clan called? why do you care? let's say TOT
We don't play BWCL 
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On January 18 2010 11:53 littlechava wrote:those curious about the clan he's in: MorroW Enivid Show nested quote +3) good/best protoss(?) player was the only one playing bwcl consistently, thus he decided to quit Bonyth? Spire? but he's b- this season, so I dunno team = [MB]
Nice one.
MB was a pretty good team. I thought MB was about average C/C+/B- though, no?
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iNcontroL
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From: Infested Terran [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: typical flame pm
Date: 1/18/10 11:26
On January 18 2010 11:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
the guy who doesn't know how to recruit mediocre players is calling me mentally inferior roflflflfl
Maybe I have my own ideas; but would hear the ones made by others? Of course you dont have any, because you havent enlightened me so far.
Anyway, I requested the thread to be closed and dont feel like having few pages of a flame war with you.
What a pity that you have lots of friends in the admins. You should have been banned years ago.
I think any further discussion with you is useless, as I really consider you mentally inferior. Unfortunately the weak as asian kids think that you are 'street-wise' or charismatic; they just dont see the fat kid you are.
Cunt.
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On January 18 2010 12:08 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
From: Infested Terran [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: typical flame pm
Date: 1/18/10 11:26
On January 18 2010 11:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
the guy who doesn't know how to recruit mediocre players is calling me mentally inferior roflflflfl
Maybe I have my own ideas; but would hear the ones made by others? Of course you dont have any, because you havent enlightened me so far.
Anyway, I requested the thread to be closed and dont feel like having few pages of a flame war with you.
What a pity that you have lots of friends in the admins. You should have been banned years ago.
I think any further discussion with you is useless, as I really consider you mentally inferior. Unfortunately the weak as asian kids think that you are 'street-wise' or charismatic; they just dont see the fat kid you are.
Cunt.
he sent me some pm with a title like that as well
didn't even read it, just deleted
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Yep, in my pm to you resonance I summed up that you have posted 4-5 times in my thread; never on subject. In addition you behave as if you were a mod - that's why you are afraid to quote it. Maybe you could cut the spam? I know you need 1500 more posts to access the L.; but maybe spam elsewhere please, or write something constructive.
In that PM I also wrote that incontrol is an useless spammer+flamer, just like you (well, he is more of a flamer though). He made few posts in this thread too; none on the subject, all pure flames.
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wow, i now have zero respect for team MB. I now know to never offer to join your team. Calling people who are within the top 50 in the foreigner scene 'no bodies" when they are considered somebody here is just a face palm, and a slap in the face.
If you want to get good players, don't say people who you would beg for (TSL Qualifying people) are nobodies and you don't care about them.
My previous team, Revoltados, which has recently had sponsorship issues due to them dropping the BW team (basically founder of the team went inactive and had another guy deal with sponsorships, and he didn't like the BW team because we were an old game, and sponsors didn't approve because we brought in the best results, so they stopped sponsoring the entire team and the team fell apart). But anyways, my team Revoltados, went from starting as a no body, to in our peak crushing F2F and other division 1 teams with a 4-1 or 5-0 score. We started with C rank players and ended with A-/B+ players. The only way to do this is to show great manners, and a family/friendship atmosphere. I still talk/play with many ex players from my team who have moved to other various sponsored teams.
You have to show manners to the scene which will attract people, and a little bit of money/gifts from sponsors doesn't hurt at all.
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On January 18 2010 12:22 CaucasianAsian wrote:
My previous team, Revoltados, which has recently had sponsorship issues due to them dropping the BW team (basically founder of the team went inactive and had another guy deal with sponsorships, and he didn't like the BW team because we were an old game, and sponsors didn't approve because we brought in the best results, so they stopped sponsoring the entire team and the team fell apart). But anyways, my team Revoltados, went from starting as a no body, to in our peak crushing F2F and other division 1 teams with a 4-1 or 5-0 score. We started with C rank players and ended with A-/B+ players. The only way to do this is to show great manners, and a family/friendship atmosphere. I still talk/play with many ex players from my team who have moved to other various sponsored teams.
You have to show manners to the scene which will attract people, and a little bit of money/gifts from sponsors doesn't hurt at all.
Can you explain to me exactly how did you start from C and end up A/B+? Was this just training of your own players or recruitment? If it was recruitment - how did you achieve it; considering you had lower ranks than the people recruited?
I have some plans to build a team in starcraft 2, thus Im interested in how it works, as probably the same rules apply to BW.
People like Koll can obviously go from 0 to B+ in course of a year; Im not sure if this is just the case for the clans. As I wrote personally I struggle at C- aftear many years of playing this game; although in the past I was better.
wow, i now have zero respect for team MB. I now know to never offer to join your team. Calling people who are within the top 50 in the foreigner scene 'no bodies" when they are considered somebody here is just a face palm, and a slap in the face.
If you want to get good players, don't say people who you would beg for (TSL Qualifying people) are nobodies and you don't care about them.
I do not represent team MB lol; where did you get the idea?
IMO a lot of players can achieve 9000 points, or what exactly was needed for TSL. No offense, but those last people qualified only because the better players got disqualified.
And by "high" I mean 6000 pts+ (or even less, basically "higher than me" so C/C+ is enough; when my own level is C-).
What exactly do you mean by showing manners to the scene? I have two contributions to the scene which I consider worth something; it never benefited neither me, nor any of my clans.
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Infested Terran?
moar liek Infested Logic
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Korea (South)11584 Posts
On January 18 2010 12:25 Infested Terran wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2010 12:22 CaucasianAsian wrote:
wow, i now have zero respect for team MB. I now know to never offer to join your team. Calling people who are within the top 50 in the foreigner scene 'no bodies" when they are considered somebody here is just a face palm, and a slap in the face.
If you want to get good players, don't say people who you would beg for (TSL Qualifying people) are nobodies and you don't care about them.
My previous team, Revoltados, which has recently had sponsorship issues due to them dropping the BW team (basically founder of the team went inactive and had another guy deal with sponsorships, and he didn't like the BW team because we were an old game, and sponsors didn't approve because we brought in the best results, so they stopped sponsoring the entire team and the team fell apart). But anyways, my team Revoltados, went from starting as a no body, to in our peak crushing F2F and other division 1 teams with a 4-1 or 5-0 score. We started with C rank players and ended with A-/B+ players. The only way to do this is to show great manners, and a family/friendship atmosphere. I still talk/play with many ex players from my team who have moved to other various sponsored teams.
You have to show manners to the scene which will attract people, and a little bit of money/gifts from sponsors doesn't hurt at all. Can you explain to me exactly how did you start from C and end up A/B+? Was this just training of your own players or recruitment? If it was recruitment - how did you achieve it?
Well when I joined the team was just sponsoring a few players in individual leagues and tournaments. I became the manager of the team within a few months, and really wanted to get the team on track for being the best there was. You had to start small, and recruited C rank players and we just became friends playing a game, we didn't play ladders much, instead we talked a ton on ventrillo/skype about strategies etc... while we played. We became not just a team, but more of a family. Some of the old members were ZeGa (now vSt.ZeGa), ShaK (retired A+ 2v2/B+ 1v1 player and now poker player, who was previously in 88) during it's prime way back in like 2003/2004) SiSiZZZ, TomaZZZ (B/B+ 2v2 players), Kr was with us for a while (A- protoss who qualified for TSL), SponkY (B- zerg player) and a few others who have slipped my mind).
With our own training, our skills skyrocketed, and pushed from division 4 on WGTCL to division 3. Then when we invited another player, drama ensued and the team fell apart. Once again I didn't give up hope and called on some old friends who I haven't talked to in a long time (NeX-Chobo and NeX-November) and we restarted the team. With their help we rebuilt the team, and grew even stronger to the point where we competed with top teams around the world, and even had a few WCG participants.
I think the best way to insure that your team will succeed is to NOT treat it like a team. Instead more of a strong friendship. Keep insisting to play with your teammates, talk over skype/ventrillo, and within time your overall skills will improve, and better players will want to join. It's not going to be instant, hell it took 3 years for Revoltados to go from a nobody team where we always were expect to lose on Gosubets (GG.net's liquibet for foriengers) to when we got 100% expected favorites and we gave such results, even against teams such as Lyra (Russian team that was in division 1 in WGTCL/ICCUP/BWCL at the time, i dont know if they're still around)
And make sure manners are always shown. Because even when you post on TeamLiquid or when your nerdraging in a starcraft game on iccup, people are watching you. And they will infer your team reacts the same way you do, and can give you either good or bad publicity. I can't tell you how many times I had to turn down applications to the team because they were bad mannered once or twice, because it can really effect your teams image. This is why MainLine Gaming (ex g4i team, which I had been invited to but decided not to join) has had such bad publicity a the moment, because they invited players such as Dino (TSL season 1 player) and Gosi[Terran] (TSL 2 player) who have poor images. I know JoeKim personally, and he is a great guy, very mannered and very cool. Yet I wouldn't be able to join the team because they have some players who give the team a bad image, and I don't want that around me.
Be very selective of who joins your team, and when they join, treat them and everyone else with utmost respect, even if they bad manner you, or if you believe they deserve it. Because it will come around to haunt you, if not now then in the future.
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time to start finding ways of telling people NOT to join this clan.
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-this thread is about how to recruit mediocre starcraft players
Thread title:
+ Show Spoiler +How to get high level players to a clan?
Medicore != high level.
Really just make a recruitment post. Medium level players are everywhere.
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Baltimore, USA22256 Posts
Two bans and several warnings, in a 3 page thread. Great job guys! 
Thank you CaucasianAsian for actually trying to keep it on track.
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