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On November 25 2009 21:49 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2009 17:05 Sadist wrote:On November 25 2009 16:58 Mora wrote:
people who play starcraft like you do make me sad.
you're missing out on so much of this game.
it's not as mind-numbing as FE into 6 facts macro. You can do a lot of things. try some of them.
like:
1) not Fast Expanding!
2) doing a nuke rush!
3) doing a hyper agressive build where you don't make any more than 20 scv's, and you don't expand until your base runs out!
Out of all the races, Terran has the greatest chance of winning without expanding. try it! it's so much fun.
Infact, i'm going to create another account just to see how far i can get with terran without fast expanding! i'm guessing about C-! problem is unit control with terran especially early game is absolutely brutal. Terran units early on are far and away the worst units when no or minimal micro is involved. People have gotten significantly better at microing against terran shit (read goons vs marines, vuls etc) that its gotten ridiculous and its almost impossible to hurt someone early on unless they get caught horribly out of position. hey bro, why don't you terran do like those protosses and just get significantly better at microing shit?
because with marines vs goons the marines tend run in straight lines and are outranged anyway where as toss has 5 units to control and can snipe marines 1 by 1 and run back.
Its pretty obvious. if its range vs ranged and you are OUTranged and slower than the other unit gl
couple that with not needing to micro protoss units at a low level and them having enough HP that if you missmicro or arent watching on occasion they dont die instantly + they are mobile and can always run away.
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
It sounds like you may have scouting issues.
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On November 26 2009 00:52 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2009 21:49 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:On November 25 2009 17:05 Sadist wrote:On November 25 2009 16:58 Mora wrote:
people who play starcraft like you do make me sad.
you're missing out on so much of this game.
it's not as mind-numbing as FE into 6 facts macro. You can do a lot of things. try some of them.
like:
1) not Fast Expanding!
2) doing a nuke rush!
3) doing a hyper agressive build where you don't make any more than 20 scv's, and you don't expand until your base runs out!
Out of all the races, Terran has the greatest chance of winning without expanding. try it! it's so much fun.
Infact, i'm going to create another account just to see how far i can get with terran without fast expanding! i'm guessing about C-! problem is unit control with terran especially early game is absolutely brutal. Terran units early on are far and away the worst units when no or minimal micro is involved. People have gotten significantly better at microing against terran shit (read goons vs marines, vuls etc) that its gotten ridiculous and its almost impossible to hurt someone early on unless they get caught horribly out of position. hey bro, why don't you terran do like those protosses and just get significantly better at microing shit? because with marines vs goons the marines tend run in straight lines and are outranged anyway where as toss has 5 units to control and can snipe marines 1 by 1 and run back. Its pretty obvious. if its range vs ranged and you are OUTranged and slower than the other unit gl couple that with not needing to micro protoss units at a low level and them having enough HP that if you missmicro or arent watching on occasion they dont die instantly + they are mobile and can always run away.
Yeah bro. The problem is that there is no real credit for playing terran. Just play it. It's a cool race but weaker than protoss in the large picture imo. I'm considering the win/loss ability instead of the "tanks imba" argument. Protoss simply has more methods of winning and can employ them, we have to defend it. Play all races imo, but main as T. That way you can see.
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I love going 9pool into 1hatch lurks. I feel so sadistic when I'm doing it.
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Really? I love when zergs go 9pool into one hatch play b/c any 3+ rax builds own them so hard. It's like they're asking to just get run over.
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I do it a lot when I just start off iccup because a lot of D Terrans have no idea what they're doing and they die to 2-3 lurkers due to late turrets and scan.
Just try it on iccup with a new account to see what happens. You will win a lot more games than you think you should with it. It works best on map positions where the Terran can't wall off.
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well lamest shit happens to terran because we have no cheese that is actually stronger then zerg or toss and their opinions are more bigger than terran. thats why you can always see a 12-14 nexus and never see 14cc
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Norway28917 Posts
lol terran cheese is so strong
zvt destination is such a bitch until you've played it like 200 times because there are 100 ways for him to get vultures inside your base
mine your mineral so vults can come from behind
fast vult drop
just run through
lift factory to the back of your base from your bridged natural
coupled with several kinds of proxy rax where even if you scout for it you might miss it.......
as a zvt, zvp and pvz player, I lose the most often against cheese from terrans. second most against zerg, and protoss cheese is absolutely useless pvz, although pretty good pvt.
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On November 26 2009 02:16 geegee1 wrote:
well lamest shit happens to terran because we have no cheese that is actually stronger then zerg or toss and their opinions are more bigger than terran. thats why you can always see a 12-14 nexus and never see 14cc
You probably just suck.
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I don't think it's that the 'lamest shit' happens to Terran players. I theorize that Terran players are just more inclined to blog about their losses to early nexus, DT's, carriers etc.
The abundance of Terran whining gives the impression that Terrans really do have to put up with the most 'lamest shit'.
EDIT: Actually, to further reinforce my point, I see three Terran rant blogs on the blog section right now, this OP, KawaiiRice & Luckyfool.
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On November 26 2009 02:34 Salv wrote:
I don't think it's that the 'lamest shit' happens to Terran players. I theorize that Terran players are just more inclined to blog about their losses to early nexus, DT's, carriers etc.
The abundance of Terran whining gives the impression that Terrans really do have to put up with the most 'lamest shit'.
EDIT: Actually, to further reinforce my point, I see three Terran rant blogs on the blog section right now, this OP, KawaiiRice & Luckyfool.
you obviously dont play terran =-)
when i switch to toss and play pvt its a joke how easy and less stressful it is compared to tvp. You essentially dont have to worry about shit early game.
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On November 26 2009 02:39 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2009 02:34 Salv wrote:
I don't think it's that the 'lamest shit' happens to Terran players. I theorize that Terran players are just more inclined to blog about their losses to early nexus, DT's, carriers etc.
The abundance of Terran whining gives the impression that Terrans really do have to put up with the most 'lamest shit'.
EDIT: Actually, to further reinforce my point, I see three Terran rant blogs on the blog section right now, this OP, KawaiiRice & Luckyfool. you obviously dont play terran =-) when i switch to toss and play pvt its a joke how easy and less stressful it is compared to tvp. You essentially dont have to worry about shit early game.
I don't know how good your off-race Protoss is, but I have played Terran before and I personally would say that the difficulty or frustration Terran players say they have in TvP is matched by Protoss players' frustration in PvZ. I just don't see Protoss players ranting about it all that much.
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cause Terran players whine the most i guess?
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terrans whine because a terran player can practice for 10 years and lose to a 1year protoss player ez
I play terran, my roommate gets to hear all my bitching
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God, the shitstorm has been released.
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From my experience, your skill versus effectiveness of Terran graph draws _l shape, which I think is why there are so many Terran-sucks whiners out there compared to other races.
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if you guys find terran so tough just quit
leave it to us real men
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On November 26 2009 03:34 2on2 wrote:
terrans whine because a terran player can practice for 10 years and lose to a 1year protoss player ez
I play terran, my roommate gets to hear all my bitching
If a player is so bad that they allow this to happen, it doesn't really matter what race is being played.
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nah but really, terran players just have a bad mentality and play like effin robots
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Lame shit happens to lame players who play a lame race
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On November 26 2009 02:48 Salv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2009 02:39 Sadist wrote:On November 26 2009 02:34 Salv wrote:
I don't think it's that the 'lamest shit' happens to Terran players. I theorize that Terran players are just more inclined to blog about their losses to early nexus, DT's, carriers etc.
The abundance of Terran whining gives the impression that Terrans really do have to put up with the most 'lamest shit'.
EDIT: Actually, to further reinforce my point, I see three Terran rant blogs on the blog section right now, this OP, KawaiiRice & Luckyfool. you obviously dont play terran =-) when i switch to toss and play pvt its a joke how easy and less stressful it is compared to tvp. You essentially dont have to worry about shit early game. I don't know how good your off-race Protoss is, but I have played Terran before and I personally would say that the difficulty or frustration Terran players say they have in TvP is matched by Protoss players' frustration in PvZ. I just don't see Protoss players ranting about it all that much.
protoss dont bitch about pvz?????
ROFL
terrans have to deal with gay zerg shit nowadays too. All our units are fucking ranged so swarm/ultra > us =(
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