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I've been playing games on ICCup tonight, and I'm totally frustrated with the games I lost.
First game, he went 14 nexus into shuttle DTs. -.- How do you even... God. I hate 14 nexus so much, I hate shuttle DTs even more (we were close position on python), and to top it all off, I scouted him last. Looks like someone definitely put two and two together. There was no way I could have been prepared for that. On top of it all though, even if he hadn't gone for the shuttle DTs, I still would have been behind because of his stall at my expo with a pylon. I don't care how much you might think it puts him behind-- he's running on 2 expos, AND can still cancel it before I manage to get enough units there to actually reduce its increasing HP. Then shuttle drop in my main, kill the turrets by my mineral line, pew, pew, pew, I'm dead.
Zerg is equally impressive with his build order. Naturally, I scout him last like the protoss, but this zerg decides to 9 pool, and KEEP BUILDING ZERGLINGS. He moves out moments after I arrive at his base. I threw down another rax (though I knew it wouldn't finish even remotely in time), and grabbed SCVs to block my ramp. It seems though, that I would have had to have pulled at least 8 or 9 to hold off that many zerglings for my few marines to shoot. In the end, the lings rip through my ramp, and I lose another.
I also lost twice to three hatch lings. I still have no idea what to do against that, even when I see the lings hatching with my scouting SCV.
What. The. Fuck?
I'm so frustrated.
P.S.: Does Terran generally do lame stuff against other races too? Are these Protosses and Zergs just playing nonstandard in response to most Terrans playing nonstandard? I don't off-race often, so I only get to play Terran TvT (and marine cheese is generally defensible with vults).
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Because D level terrans are much worse than their Protoss/Zerg counterparts imo
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On November 25 2009 16:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Because D level terrans are much worse than their Protoss/Zerg counterparts imo
Lol no. It's because anyone above D has some resemblance of micro, which counters the early game unit imbalances.
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Solution to scouting on 4 player maps: use 2 SCVs like the pros.
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change it to D rank terrans.
Above the D ranks, ZvT can be... let's just say not fun aswell.
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D level Terrans can't deal with shit D level P/Z throw at them is what he meant IMO. Noob terrans are easy to abuse because they don't know turret and scan timings.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Except that if you learn to properly defend this stuff, it's usually a win for you. As a terran, I'm really sorry that IdrA keeps setting such a terrible example by whining nonstop about cheese. One of protoss's main attributes is the ability to cheese, and so you just have to deal. Yeah, deal. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just a clever (or sometimes poorly done) strategy like any other.
It sucks, and you just have to learn from it and recognize it and beat it when it happens again.
I'm sick of terran players complaining-- protoss are supposed to be the race that does this, not terran.
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people who play starcraft like you do make me sad.
you're missing out on so much of this game.
it's not as mind-numbing as FE into 6 facts macro. You can do a lot of things. try some of them.
like:
1) not Fast Expanding!
2) doing a nuke rush!
3) doing a hyper agressive build where you don't make any more than 20 scv's, and you don't expand until your base runs out!
Out of all the races, Terran has the greatest chance of winning without expanding. try it! it's so much fun.
Infact, i'm going to create another account just to see how far i can get with terran without fast expanding! i'm guessing about C-!
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I was doing good on ICCUP then 7 games in a row against Z => 7 losses to gay mutas/mass hydra/lings, my macro and scouting was good IMO but damn it´s just imba :S
Also I slept like 2 hours so I might be delusional...
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Terrans just need to cheese more back
BBS, vulture rushes and 2fact BO's are all legitimate strategies (or vs zerg, an 8 rax)
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There has ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ticon_small.png) Always been an answer to that - if you blame the race, switch to the ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.png) imba one.
edit: edit
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On November 25 2009 16:58 Mora wrote:
people who play starcraft like you do make me sad.
you're missing out on so much of this game.
it's not as mind-numbing as FE into 6 facts macro. You can do a lot of things. try some of them.
like:
1) not Fast Expanding!
2) doing a nuke rush!
3) doing a hyper agressive build where you don't make any more than 20 scv's, and you don't expand until your base runs out!
Out of all the races, Terran has the greatest chance of winning without expanding. try it! it's so much fun.
Infact, i'm going to create another account just to see how far i can get with terran without fast expanding! i'm guessing about C-!
problem is unit control with terran especially early game is absolutely brutal.
Terran units early on are far and away the worst units when no or minimal micro is involved. People have gotten significantly better at microing against terran shit (read goons vs marines, vuls etc) that its gotten ridiculous and its almost impossible to hurt someone early on unless they get caught horribly out of position.
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On November 25 2009 16:58 Mora wrote:
people who play starcraft like you do make me sad.
you're missing out on so much of this game.
it's not as mind-numbing as FE into 6 facts macro. You can do a lot of things. try some of them.
like:
1) not Fast Expanding!
2) doing a nuke rush!
3) doing a hyper agressive build where you don't make any more than 20 scv's, and you don't expand until your base runs out!
Out of all the races, Terran has the greatest chance of winning without expanding. try it! it's so much fun.
Infact, i'm going to create another account just to see how far i can get with terran without fast expanding! i'm guessing about C-!
it seems, at least D/D+ ranks, every terran and protoss only know how to fast expand, like early game play has been completely written out of existence. it's really boring sometimes : (
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Whats funny is when a terran sends a whole key group of vultures to harass your expos and it doesn't even matter because he has so much money. and ALL your probes die.,
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Terrans would be lamers too if their TvP cheese wasn't so weak, and their TvZ cheese countered by the most popular zerg overpool opening. They can't win with strong cheeses so instead they whine about how imbalanced it is.
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On November 25 2009 17:05 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2009 16:58 Mora wrote:
people who play starcraft like you do make me sad.
you're missing out on so much of this game.
it's not as mind-numbing as FE into 6 facts macro. You can do a lot of things. try some of them.
like:
1) not Fast Expanding!
2) doing a nuke rush!
3) doing a hyper agressive build where you don't make any more than 20 scv's, and you don't expand until your base runs out!
Out of all the races, Terran has the greatest chance of winning without expanding. try it! it's so much fun.
Infact, i'm going to create another account just to see how far i can get with terran without fast expanding! i'm guessing about C-! problem is unit control with terran especially early game is absolutely brutal. Terran units early on are far and away the worst units when no or minimal micro is involved. People have gotten significantly better at microing against terran shit (read goons vs marines, vuls etc) that its gotten ridiculous and its almost impossible to hurt someone early on unless they get caught horribly out of position.
i definitely don't disagree with you.
i'm just saying, playing the standard meta game = you lose
vs
playing the way you want to and learn other skills that you will need anyways = you lose but have fun.
and i'm not even saying that playing standard isn't fun, it just completely removes the creative side of this game, which is such a shame. SC isn't just an evolved optimized 11 year old build order, it's so much more than that. Newer players only experience it as the former though. 
i realize i was never very good in the big scope of things, but i managed to get decent off of 2-base zerg play, being able to take games off of most foreigners (if not consistently, at least inconsistently). While these new optimized builds rape my 2-base zerg without contest, i certainly don't regret playing how i did.
maybe i'm just an old player who's clinging on to dear old-school. However, i am excited for sc2, if for no other reason than it won't degenerate into sc in less than 2 years. Creativity and Experimenting will not only be fun, but viable, at least for a little while.
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what's with this whole 'terran cheese is weak' horse shit.
4 vulture drop main
2 port wraith
m&m drop
science vessels. always.
medic walls
quick vult speed harass vs zerg
science vessels.
lol
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On November 25 2009 17:53 Mora wrote:
what's with this whole 'terran cheese is weak' horse shit.
4 vulture drop main
2 port wraith
m&m drop
science vessels. always.
medic walls
quick vult speed harass vs zerg
science vessels.
lol
yes!
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On November 25 2009 17:53 Mora wrote:
what's with this whole 'terran cheese is weak' horse shit.
4 vulture drop main
2 port wraith
m&m drop
science vessels. always.
medic walls
quick vult speed harass vs zerg
science vessels.
lol
haha, like any of those are cheese.
Cheese is proxy DT/cannon rush/4pool/bunker rush/ SCV rush.
Terran early game is weak.
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Baa?21242 Posts
KOREAN MAPS ARE LESS IMPORTANT HAHA
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT KOREAN MAPS KID? JESUS TRY THE HARD LIFE OF A ZERG. WE DONT HAVE FUCKING MAP CROSSING ARCLITE CANNONS, EVERYTHING CANNOT BE REPAIRS, WE DONT HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION LIKE SPIDER MINES AND WE CERTAINLY AS FUCK DONT HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS CAUSE ANY GAME THAT HAS THAT SUCKS LIKE COMMAND AND CONQUER 3. ALSO, WE DONT HAVE FLYING BUILDINGS OR MOTHERFUCKING DEFENSIVE STRUCTURES THAT SHOOT AIR AND GROUND AND CAN BE REPAIRED AND COST 100$ FUCKING MINERALS. OUR WORKERS DIE WHEN THE WIND BLOWS TOO HARD AND SURE AS FUCK DONT HAVE FUSION CUTTERS. WAIT? YOU HAVE GOLIATHS THAT SHOOT ACROSS THE MAP AT AIR UNITS AND CAN BE REPAIRED AND ARE CHEAP? JESUS WHO MADE THIS GAME.
JESUS I WISH I HAD 5-6 of THE ALL TIME BEST PLAYERS TO MODEL MY GAME AFTER. WAIT? WERENT THEY ALL FUCKING TERRAN? WE HAVE NADA, BOXER, OOV, FLASH, MIDAS and XELLOS ALL KICKING ASS FOR YEARS AT A TIME WHILE WE GET FUCKING FAT ASS JULY WHO SUCKS NOW, YELLOW WHO ALWAYS FUCKING SUCKED BUT NOBODY KNEW FOR A BIT AND WE FINALLY GOT SAVIOR BUT THEN THEY DRESSED HIM LIKE HITLER SO HE SUCKED AND NOW WE HAVE JAEDONG BUT THAT KID CANT FIGURE OUT THE NEW KOREAN MAPS THAT DONT MATTER. JESUS FUCK IT MUST BE NICE TO HAVE PLAYERS THAT SPAN DECADES AND DOMINATE THE ENTIRE TIME. GIMME SOME OF THAT PLEASE.
HEY WHAT ABOUT BUILDINGS DO YOU LOSE A SCV EACH TIME YOU MAKE ONE? NO. WHAT THE FUCK? WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN ACTUALLY TELL THEM TO RETURN TO MINING AFTER THEY ARE DONE BUILDING? I THOUGHT THAT AUTO MINING GARBAGE WAS FOR HACKERS OR BAD GAMES. TERRAN'S CAN DO IT? FUCK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A SWEET DEAL. EACH TIME WE (zerg) HAVE TO BUILD WE TELL ONE OF OUR SACRED MINERS "HEY FUCK YOU TIME TO DIE" AND THEY DO. THEN WE GET A FUCKING BUILDING. WHICH, HALF THE TIME ISNT ENOUGH: WE HAVE TO PAY MOREE FUCKING MONEY TO GET IT TO DO SOME SHIT LIKE DICK THE GROUND OR SPRAY PISS IN THE AIR.
From the great Incontrol himself.
Fuck Terran you're not allowed to complain about gay shit.
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as a z, t is the worst. Many have posted it before me, but to add to the frenzy:
first: proxy rax?
he walled + fast gas: fast mnm push? vulture runby? 2 port wraith? vult drop? proxy fact? in base fact? just out of base fact which floats into my base? fast mnm + 1 tank push? mech? that lame mech with mnm push? mech fe? bionic fe? quick mnm drop? (natural sunks are bad vs that)
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You're crying about terran weak?
I always get crushed by these gay terran 2fac pushes, which are pretty much the epitome of gay. But just get up, watch the replay and figure out to crush those "lame" strats.
Seriously, I'm soo tired of players QQing about being beaten by cheese, when they don't realise that they have equally gay cheese in their arsenal, just man up and play the game.
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Oh man....
First off, 14 nexus into shuttles and dts? wtf? You should have like half a dozen vultures and scan before he can unload any of them.
9 pool? You never go out. Like seriously, NEVER go out unless you are absolutely certain that he is teching or expanding. The farthest you can come out to is just below your ramp to place a bunker, and that's only when you have a cc finished so you are placing a bunker.
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On November 25 2009 17:05 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2009 16:58 Mora wrote:
people who play starcraft like you do make me sad.
you're missing out on so much of this game.
it's not as mind-numbing as FE into 6 facts macro. You can do a lot of things. try some of them.
like:
1) not Fast Expanding!
2) doing a nuke rush!
3) doing a hyper agressive build where you don't make any more than 20 scv's, and you don't expand until your base runs out!
Out of all the races, Terran has the greatest chance of winning without expanding. try it! it's so much fun.
Infact, i'm going to create another account just to see how far i can get with terran without fast expanding! i'm guessing about C-! problem is unit control with terran especially early game is absolutely brutal. Terran units early on are far and away the worst units when no or minimal micro is involved. People have gotten significantly better at microing against terran shit (read goons vs marines, vuls etc) that its gotten ridiculous and its almost impossible to hurt someone early on unless they get caught horribly out of position.
hey bro,
why don't you terran do like those protosses and just get significantly better at microing shit?
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On November 25 2009 21:49 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2009 17:05 Sadist wrote:On November 25 2009 16:58 Mora wrote:
people who play starcraft like you do make me sad.
you're missing out on so much of this game.
it's not as mind-numbing as FE into 6 facts macro. You can do a lot of things. try some of them.
like:
1) not Fast Expanding!
2) doing a nuke rush!
3) doing a hyper agressive build where you don't make any more than 20 scv's, and you don't expand until your base runs out!
Out of all the races, Terran has the greatest chance of winning without expanding. try it! it's so much fun.
Infact, i'm going to create another account just to see how far i can get with terran without fast expanding! i'm guessing about C-! problem is unit control with terran especially early game is absolutely brutal. Terran units early on are far and away the worst units when no or minimal micro is involved. People have gotten significantly better at microing against terran shit (read goons vs marines, vuls etc) that its gotten ridiculous and its almost impossible to hurt someone early on unless they get caught horribly out of position. hey bro, why don't you terran do like those protosses and just get significantly better at microing shit?
protoss got significantly better at microing what exactly? invulnerable zealots that can murder 3 marines and keep going? no need bro
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On November 25 2009 22:15 TheAntZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2009 21:49 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:On November 25 2009 17:05 Sadist wrote:On November 25 2009 16:58 Mora wrote:
people who play starcraft like you do make me sad.
you're missing out on so much of this game.
it's not as mind-numbing as FE into 6 facts macro. You can do a lot of things. try some of them.
like:
1) not Fast Expanding!
2) doing a nuke rush!
3) doing a hyper agressive build where you don't make any more than 20 scv's, and you don't expand until your base runs out!
Out of all the races, Terran has the greatest chance of winning without expanding. try it! it's so much fun.
Infact, i'm going to create another account just to see how far i can get with terran without fast expanding! i'm guessing about C-! problem is unit control with terran especially early game is absolutely brutal. Terran units early on are far and away the worst units when no or minimal micro is involved. People have gotten significantly better at microing against terran shit (read goons vs marines, vuls etc) that its gotten ridiculous and its almost impossible to hurt someone early on unless they get caught horribly out of position. hey bro, why don't you terran do like those protosses and just get significantly better at microing shit? protoss got significantly better at microing what exactly? invulnerable zealots that can murder 3 marines and keep going? no need bro
Word. I havent seen tosses with good micro stay around D level (cos im D myself)
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13 Nexus into DT drop is actually a really gay build, it comes really fast and is generally totally unexpected. And yeah T is just kinda weak early game where as Z and P both have a million different cheeses they can do, just the nature of the game.
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Once I was hit by 13 nex into DT drop into fast carriers on D+ level.
I don't play seriously ever since that time. I am not even kidding, I thought that rage hurt my health and I just stopped laddering. I havent played BW for like 3 month now.
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konadora
Singapore66155 Posts
It's ALWAYS Protoss against a Terran (you, the user)
fucking Protosss
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On November 25 2009 22:31 freelander wrote:
Once I was hit by 13 nex into DT drop into fast carriers on D+ level.
I don't play seriously ever since that time. I am not even kidding, I thought that rage hurt my health and I just stopped laddering. I havent played BW for like 3 month now.
man thats one powerful-ass build
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On November 25 2009 22:47 konadora wrote:
It's ALWAYS Protoss against a Terran (you, the user)
fucking Protosss
+ Show Spoiler +
:D
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On November 25 2009 22:59 TheAntZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2009 22:31 freelander wrote:
Once I was hit by 13 nex into DT drop into fast carriers on D+ level.
I don't play seriously ever since that time. I am not even kidding, I thought that rage hurt my health and I just stopped laddering. I havent played BW for like 3 month now. man thats one powerful-ass build
what is gay that you will save your scans because of the DTs and the carriers hit you totally unexpectedly
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I guess I'm one of the people guilty of complaining about a bit of cheese here and there, but in all reality, I'm completely fine with it. If you ask me, 2gate proxy is NOT a cheese, and 4pool, is NOT a cheese. It's all in and suicidal yes, but I wouldn't call it Cheese. Starcraft is so great because there are almost infinitesimal possibilities that can occur, and this is called "cheese" just adds a new level onto the game.
And I'm a Terran player, so I've also seen my fair share of 4pools and proxy gates and all that junk. But seriously, it's not that hard to deal with once you understand how to SCOUT, and how to properly micro. I'm only a D/D+ and my gameplay may not be fantastic, but I've still been able to deal with the majority of cheese builds.
And as for DTs and 14 nexus being dubbed as "lame shit". Yeah...no. DTs are a very potent force in the Protoss arsenal. Why WOULDN'T you utilize DTs if you had the opportunity? That's not Lame, that's just playing Smart. And 14 Nexus...come on dude. It's aggressive, it's greedy, but it's not that hard to deal with either. You expand yourself, you start pumping more vultures than tanks, and you figure out MENTALLY how to do things.
Starcraft isn't a game where you just go through the motions and say "Hmm...well this game I'm going to go through this build order and then have this timing push and then win in the late game." This mindset it seems has been EMBEDDED in the minds of Terrans because Terran is inherently a mechanically stressing race. But if you look at players like Skyroo and Kawaii who stream here, and then also watch players like Boxer pulling off amazing shit, you'll know that Terran is perhaps one of the most versatile armies there can be in this game. They don't always go through with a SET plan (though they usually do), but they also pull off some creative stuff that I don't see in regular games.
So stop whining for a second and stop calling things lame. Instead of following a robotic plan that someone else has told you, be creative and start thinking of ways to beat these builds, because it's definitely possible.
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4 pool is not a cheese build?
congrats
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Its so simple...
Every Game a terran wins its because they're just far more talented and skilled than their opponent. Considering protoss takes no skill at all and have units stronger than arnold swarchenegger, while pumping them faster than a man makes sperm. Really does make the game imbalanced. And when a terran beats a protoss, of course they're much more skilled.
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On November 26 2009 00:12 freelander wrote:
4 pool is not a cheese build?
congrats
You see, it depends on how you define cheese. I personally don't think any build in SC is cheese. They might be cheap and all-in, but it's still a legitimate strategy. If you really think about it, it's a timing push that comes right before the terran creates his first marine.
So why would you criticize someone for cheesing when they're just utilizing a timing window, no matter how small or how early?
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so what is a cheese? if 4pool and proxy gates isnt one.
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On November 26 2009 00:25 YPang wrote:
so what is a cheese? if 4pool and proxy gates isnt one.
I really don't know. But my personal philosophy is that if you have a strategy that kills you early....it's cheap yeah...but it's not cheese.
Of course, the majority of people will disagree. I just don't like it when we call things "cheese". It just sounds like an excuse and a reason why we lost when we really should have been playing better and countering these builds. I lose sometimes, but I try harder next to defeat these type of builds.
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On November 25 2009 21:49 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2009 17:05 Sadist wrote:On November 25 2009 16:58 Mora wrote:
people who play starcraft like you do make me sad.
you're missing out on so much of this game.
it's not as mind-numbing as FE into 6 facts macro. You can do a lot of things. try some of them.
like:
1) not Fast Expanding!
2) doing a nuke rush!
3) doing a hyper agressive build where you don't make any more than 20 scv's, and you don't expand until your base runs out!
Out of all the races, Terran has the greatest chance of winning without expanding. try it! it's so much fun.
Infact, i'm going to create another account just to see how far i can get with terran without fast expanding! i'm guessing about C-! problem is unit control with terran especially early game is absolutely brutal. Terran units early on are far and away the worst units when no or minimal micro is involved. People have gotten significantly better at microing against terran shit (read goons vs marines, vuls etc) that its gotten ridiculous and its almost impossible to hurt someone early on unless they get caught horribly out of position. hey bro, why don't you terran do like those protosses and just get significantly better at microing shit?
because with marines vs goons the marines tend run in straight lines and are outranged anyway where as toss has 5 units to control and can snipe marines 1 by 1 and run back.
Its pretty obvious. if its range vs ranged and you are OUTranged and slower than the other unit gl
couple that with not needing to micro protoss units at a low level and them having enough HP that if you missmicro or arent watching on occasion they dont die instantly + they are mobile and can always run away.
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
It sounds like you may have scouting issues.
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On November 26 2009 00:52 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2009 21:49 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:On November 25 2009 17:05 Sadist wrote:On November 25 2009 16:58 Mora wrote:
people who play starcraft like you do make me sad.
you're missing out on so much of this game.
it's not as mind-numbing as FE into 6 facts macro. You can do a lot of things. try some of them.
like:
1) not Fast Expanding!
2) doing a nuke rush!
3) doing a hyper agressive build where you don't make any more than 20 scv's, and you don't expand until your base runs out!
Out of all the races, Terran has the greatest chance of winning without expanding. try it! it's so much fun.
Infact, i'm going to create another account just to see how far i can get with terran without fast expanding! i'm guessing about C-! problem is unit control with terran especially early game is absolutely brutal. Terran units early on are far and away the worst units when no or minimal micro is involved. People have gotten significantly better at microing against terran shit (read goons vs marines, vuls etc) that its gotten ridiculous and its almost impossible to hurt someone early on unless they get caught horribly out of position. hey bro, why don't you terran do like those protosses and just get significantly better at microing shit? because with marines vs goons the marines tend run in straight lines and are outranged anyway where as toss has 5 units to control and can snipe marines 1 by 1 and run back. Its pretty obvious. if its range vs ranged and you are OUTranged and slower than the other unit gl couple that with not needing to micro protoss units at a low level and them having enough HP that if you missmicro or arent watching on occasion they dont die instantly + they are mobile and can always run away.
Yeah bro. The problem is that there is no real credit for playing terran. Just play it. It's a cool race but weaker than protoss in the large picture imo. I'm considering the win/loss ability instead of the "tanks imba" argument. Protoss simply has more methods of winning and can employ them, we have to defend it. Play all races imo, but main as T. That way you can see.
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I love going 9pool into 1hatch lurks. I feel so sadistic when I'm doing it.
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Really? I love when zergs go 9pool into one hatch play b/c any 3+ rax builds own them so hard. It's like they're asking to just get run over.
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I do it a lot when I just start off iccup because a lot of D Terrans have no idea what they're doing and they die to 2-3 lurkers due to late turrets and scan.
Just try it on iccup with a new account to see what happens. You will win a lot more games than you think you should with it. It works best on map positions where the Terran can't wall off.
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well lamest shit happens to terran because we have no cheese that is actually stronger then zerg or toss and their opinions are more bigger than terran. thats why you can always see a 12-14 nexus and never see 14cc
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Norway28619 Posts
lol terran cheese is so strong
zvt destination is such a bitch until you've played it like 200 times because there are 100 ways for him to get vultures inside your base
mine your mineral so vults can come from behind
fast vult drop
just run through
lift factory to the back of your base from your bridged natural
coupled with several kinds of proxy rax where even if you scout for it you might miss it.......
as a zvt, zvp and pvz player, I lose the most often against cheese from terrans. second most against zerg, and protoss cheese is absolutely useless pvz, although pretty good pvt.
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On November 26 2009 02:16 geegee1 wrote:
well lamest shit happens to terran because we have no cheese that is actually stronger then zerg or toss and their opinions are more bigger than terran. thats why you can always see a 12-14 nexus and never see 14cc
You probably just suck.
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I don't think it's that the 'lamest shit' happens to Terran players. I theorize that Terran players are just more inclined to blog about their losses to early nexus, DT's, carriers etc.
The abundance of Terran whining gives the impression that Terrans really do have to put up with the most 'lamest shit'.
EDIT: Actually, to further reinforce my point, I see three Terran rant blogs on the blog section right now, this OP, KawaiiRice & Luckyfool.
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On November 26 2009 02:34 Salv wrote:
I don't think it's that the 'lamest shit' happens to Terran players. I theorize that Terran players are just more inclined to blog about their losses to early nexus, DT's, carriers etc.
The abundance of Terran whining gives the impression that Terrans really do have to put up with the most 'lamest shit'.
EDIT: Actually, to further reinforce my point, I see three Terran rant blogs on the blog section right now, this OP, KawaiiRice & Luckyfool.
you obviously dont play terran =-)
when i switch to toss and play pvt its a joke how easy and less stressful it is compared to tvp. You essentially dont have to worry about shit early game.
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On November 26 2009 02:39 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2009 02:34 Salv wrote:
I don't think it's that the 'lamest shit' happens to Terran players. I theorize that Terran players are just more inclined to blog about their losses to early nexus, DT's, carriers etc.
The abundance of Terran whining gives the impression that Terrans really do have to put up with the most 'lamest shit'.
EDIT: Actually, to further reinforce my point, I see three Terran rant blogs on the blog section right now, this OP, KawaiiRice & Luckyfool. you obviously dont play terran =-) when i switch to toss and play pvt its a joke how easy and less stressful it is compared to tvp. You essentially dont have to worry about shit early game.
I don't know how good your off-race Protoss is, but I have played Terran before and I personally would say that the difficulty or frustration Terran players say they have in TvP is matched by Protoss players' frustration in PvZ. I just don't see Protoss players ranting about it all that much.
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cause Terran players whine the most i guess?
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terrans whine because a terran player can practice for 10 years and lose to a 1year protoss player ez
I play terran, my roommate gets to hear all my bitching
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God, the shitstorm has been released.
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From my experience, your skill versus effectiveness of Terran graph draws _l shape, which I think is why there are so many Terran-sucks whiners out there compared to other races.
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if you guys find terran so tough just quit
leave it to us real men
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On November 26 2009 03:34 2on2 wrote:
terrans whine because a terran player can practice for 10 years and lose to a 1year protoss player ez
I play terran, my roommate gets to hear all my bitching
If a player is so bad that they allow this to happen, it doesn't really matter what race is being played.
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nah but really, terran players just have a bad mentality and play like effin robots
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Lame shit happens to lame players who play a lame race
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On November 26 2009 02:48 Salv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2009 02:39 Sadist wrote:On November 26 2009 02:34 Salv wrote:
I don't think it's that the 'lamest shit' happens to Terran players. I theorize that Terran players are just more inclined to blog about their losses to early nexus, DT's, carriers etc.
The abundance of Terran whining gives the impression that Terrans really do have to put up with the most 'lamest shit'.
EDIT: Actually, to further reinforce my point, I see three Terran rant blogs on the blog section right now, this OP, KawaiiRice & Luckyfool. you obviously dont play terran =-) when i switch to toss and play pvt its a joke how easy and less stressful it is compared to tvp. You essentially dont have to worry about shit early game. I don't know how good your off-race Protoss is, but I have played Terran before and I personally would say that the difficulty or frustration Terran players say they have in TvP is matched by Protoss players' frustration in PvZ. I just don't see Protoss players ranting about it all that much.
protoss dont bitch about pvz?????
ROFL
terrans have to deal with gay zerg shit nowadays too. All our units are fucking ranged so swarm/ultra > us =(
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14 nexus dies to BBS
so what do you do?
BBS every single game
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