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lOvOlUNiMEDiA
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States643 Posts
November 25 2009 03:14 GMT
#61
On November 25 2009 11:48 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2009 08:02 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
On November 25 2009 05:17 ghostWriter wrote:
On November 25 2009 05:08 Chef wrote:
On November 25 2009 03:47 koreasilver wrote:
On November 25 2009 03:16 Chef wrote:
My grandparents are all from different places (New Zealand, France, Scotland, Canada) and I never find it awkward.

Oh come on, New Zealand, France, Scotland, and Canada all do not have anything close to the historical animosity between the Koreans and the Japanese. The animosity has been around since the Imjin Wars, which happened a long time before the end of the Chosun dynasty and the Japanese Occupation era.

So? It's still absurd and shameful. It's still losing personal identity to adopt impersonal mob-mentality.


Are you kidding me? There's no such thing as a personal identity. You are only deluding yourself if you believe that anything you do is original; almost everything you do, think or say comes from another source and you are a product of the mass media culture that pervades society (if you are an American, or you are a product of your religious culture that determines your thinking, actions and way of life, or...). Your entire identity can be attributed to whatever group you believe that you identify with, whether it be a religious group, a political group, etc.


Well, if that is true than the only reason you are saying that is a result of your upbringing -- so you can't claim your statement is true -- instead, you can claim that you say what you say because you had to.


Why not? What makes it untrue? The fact that I too am subject to these influences have no relationship to their veracity. And it's not just upbringing, it includes your entire environment.


Because rationality is normative as well as descriptive.
To say that I'm missing the point, you would first have to show that such work can have a point.
lOvOlUNiMEDiA
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States643 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 03:15:31
November 25 2009 03:15 GMT
#62
On November 25 2009 11:48 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2009 08:02 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
On November 25 2009 05:17 ghostWriter wrote:
On November 25 2009 05:08 Chef wrote:
On November 25 2009 03:47 koreasilver wrote:
On November 25 2009 03:16 Chef wrote:
My grandparents are all from different places (New Zealand, France, Scotland, Canada) and I never find it awkward.

Oh come on, New Zealand, France, Scotland, and Canada all do not have anything close to the historical animosity between the Koreans and the Japanese. The animosity has been around since the Imjin Wars, which happened a long time before the end of the Chosun dynasty and the Japanese Occupation era.

So? It's still absurd and shameful. It's still losing personal identity to adopt impersonal mob-mentality.


Are you kidding me? There's no such thing as a personal identity. You are only deluding yourself if you believe that anything you do is original; almost everything you do, think or say comes from another source and you are a product of the mass media culture that pervades society (if you are an American, or you are a product of your religious culture that determines your thinking, actions and way of life, or...). Your entire identity can be attributed to whatever group you believe that you identify with, whether it be a religious group, a political group, etc.


Well, if that is true than the only reason you are saying that is a result of your upbringing -- so you can't claim your statement is true -- instead, you can claim that you say what you say because you had to.



Why not? What makes it untrue? The fact that I too am subject to these influences have no relationship to their veracity. And it's not just upbringing, it includes your entire environment.


And please don't pm me anymore.
To say that I'm missing the point, you would first have to show that such work can have a point.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
November 25 2009 03:43 GMT
#63
This thread was entertaining because of koreans who don't live in korea or know korean culture well say some blanket statements and then koreans who live in korea come in to correct it.
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