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Why do I lose D games when I play Protoss?
I thought it was easier at the D levels then T and Z.
I'm like 8-4 right now and the losses were to legit D levels.
I've been meaning to blog since I haven't done so in a while but this most recent loss to a 100-200 stat Terran kind of annoyed me. Protoss is sooo unforgiving to aggressive mistakes. Really I have a terrible habit of running into Zerg sunkened bases and storming my own observers. Also when I have twice the apm of my zerg opponent I get pretty mad. I know that my overall sense of Protoss play is crap since I've never played them as my main but still it's sucky losing like this.
Man I really need to get active again and start shooting for B-. If any D+/C-/C clans are around I'm looking to join one. My play is obviously very sloppy but I'll get back to my normal form soon. Max rank for other two races was C so I should hopefully be able to hit that with P soon.
So.. other then bw, I've been at my university for about 3 months now. I love it a lot but I haven't gotten to play much recently due to the change. I'm at Case and I know a few teamliquiders are here but I haven't met any of them. Where are you at?
 
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What? Protoss is truly easy against real D players... half the time the zergs die to your first attack.
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It's probably because you just don't have an idea how to play Protoss. I remember when I first tried playing Terran I lost to all sorts of dumb shit like 1hatch lurks, 1base carriers, etc., because I had absolutely no idea wtf I was doing.
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Hey, don't complain about an 8-4 record. We bad D players deserve some respect.
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If your mechanics are better than D level, all you have to do in PvZ is build units and micro them. One base zeal/goon is plenty to win.
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Bad D terran go like 4-30, enjoy your protoss supremacy
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Protoss is piss easy on low levels, you're probably unlucky.
Terran is in my opinion the most demanding race to play at D\D+.
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Blog jacked. HBD ATHOS!!!
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On November 19 2009 14:29 Epicfailguy wrote:
Protoss is piss easy on low levels, you're probably unlucky.
Terran is in my opinion the most demanding race to play at D\D+.
until you figure out that you can 2 fac/ bunker/siege tank rush your way to C.
avoid TvT at all costs basically unless you know what your doing
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Depends. If you find a D- with 600 or less points, you can build your main in his base.
heres an example. he reset his stats after that game. lololol
as a D Protoss player, i dont forge fe vs Ds. You MUST 10/12 him to win with ez (constant zealot pressure on Zerg)
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When you play PvT, DT drop into fast arbriters generally wins a lot of games.
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wow. i think u guys are underestimating d players, or i just play a lot of smurfs with 300 apm T_T
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fuck Protoss I'm switching back to Terran
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On November 20 2009 08:45 kNyTTyM wrote:
fuck Protoss I'm switching back to Terran
lol pansy.
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Wait, you're D.
Your opponents are D.
And you're complaining about an 8-4 record? You know you only need a 33% win rate to hold D right?
"Protoss is sooo unforgiving to aggressive mistakes."
Also I find this hilarious with the most durable units in the game.
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konadora
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On November 20 2009 08:45 kNyTTyM wrote:
fuck Protoss I'm switching back to Terran
you are now a real man
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God I don't see how anyone can find Terran easier to play than anything...
When I first switched from Terran to Zerg... I felt like I was a god at the game.
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haha that's exactly why I switched from P to Z.
The mistakes are very unforgiving. One second late cannon = gg from muta, one scourged observer = gg contain bust
it's all too precise
zerg at least I can "generally" attak move, "generally" dodge storm, "generally" flanking ect, felt more error friendly
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On November 20 2009 09:07 TimmyMac wrote:
Wait, you're D.
Your opponents are D.
And you're complaining about an 8-4 record? You know you only need a 33% win rate to hold D right?
"Protoss is sooo unforgiving to aggressive mistakes."
Also I find this hilarious with the most durable units in the game.
Protoss is indeed very unforgiving to aggresive mistakes. Your units may have a lot of hp, but if you lose that army, you're not getting another one for a while, during which time zerg will have map control and fuck you over. Not to mention, it's actually easy to lose your army because templars can be sniped if you aren't careful, and then if the zerg is at your level he will roll your face.
But of course, Terran is more unforgiving 
One hold position lurker field can kill you for good!
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Protoss is the hardest race (least starleague wins etc), don't worry about it man. just man up and play the manly race.
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On November 20 2009 13:18 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2009 08:45 kNyTTyM wrote:
fuck Protoss I'm switching back to Terran you are now a real man
you are now eligible to whine 24/7. Welcome back to terran!
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that's weird-- i feel like protoss is wayyyyy easier than terran. for all of you protoss players who haven't tried terran yet-- try terran. then when you get roflstomped by a whole bunch of different things, you'll realize that terran has a lot more on the mind than protoss in that mu.
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On December 05 2009 14:07 Always wrote:
that's weird-- i feel like protoss is wayyyyy easier than terran. for all of you protoss players who haven't tried terran yet-- try terran. then when you get roflstomped by a whole bunch of different things, you'll realize that terran has a lot more on the mind than protoss in that mu.
TvZ is ez. 1 Rax FE Timing is perfect
TvP is gay fuck TvP fuck it
TvT is hard to practice because no one will play it.....
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My one and only serious game as Protoss - I went for 2 gate zealots into 2 base speedlots (with +1) with +1 attack speed Scouts as support. And I smoked a Z player. That's right - Scouts. With speed. And +1 attack.
We had 2 rematches, ZvZ. I got smoked both times..... And they weren't because of BO fuckups (we had identical BOs in one game). And my main is Z.....
Please, you may like to think "ooh, my cannon was one second late, and my base is dead by mutalisks", however, think about Z - "one second late, and I've lost half of my drones to that vulture that slipped by while my sunken was finishing"..... It's the same for every race.
But, from my experience, Protoss seems easier..... I didn't know any of the shortcuts when I started the game (short of some obvious ones like "P" for Pylon or Probe, "Z" for Zealot, "C" for Cannon, etc).
The macro seemed much easier than Z macro, and the units can withstand quite a beating. Definitely very forgiving in that respect.
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On December 05 2009 14:55 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
My one and only serious game as Protoss - I went for 2 gate zealots into 2 base speedlots (with +1) with +1 attack speed Scouts as support. And I smoked a Z player. That's right - Scouts. With speed. And +1 attack.
We had 2 rematches, ZvZ. I got smoked both times..... And they weren't because of BO fuckups (we had identical BOs in one game). And my main is Z.....
Please, you may like to think "ooh, my cannon was one second late, and my base is dead by mutalisks", however, think about Z - "one second late, and I've lost half of my drones to that vulture that slipped by while my sunken was finishing"..... It's the same for every race.
But, from my experience, Protoss seems easier..... I didn't know any of the shortcuts when I started the game (short of some obvious ones like "P" for Pylon or Probe, "Z" for Zealot, "C" for Cannon, etc).
The macro seemed much easier than Z macro, and the units can withstand quite a beating. Definitely very forgiving in that respect.
Maybe you just suck at ZvZ and the other guy fucking sucked at ZvP.
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konadora
Singapore66160 Posts
Because you're not playing the Real Man's Race
(Terran)
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i wasnt aware that the turtling passive aggressive race was considered manly
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On December 05 2009 15:35 lazz wrote:
i wasnt aware that the turtling passive aggressive race was considered manly
Terran players like to pretend it is... something about being dicked by space vikings.
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On November 20 2009 19:26 Kiarip wrote:
God I don't see how anyone can find Terran easier to play than anything...
When I first switched from Terran to Zerg... I felt like I was a god at the game.
That's weird, when I played Zerg I went 0-8 before I switched back. I will never complain about Terran again
And try 12 nexus, I played 10 games PvT and lost only 2 of them... to BBS
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On December 05 2009 15:12 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2009 14:55 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
My one and only serious game as Protoss - I went for 2 gate zealots into 2 base speedlots (with +1) with +1 attack speed Scouts as support. And I smoked a Z player. That's right - Scouts. With speed. And +1 attack.
We had 2 rematches, ZvZ. I got smoked both times..... And they weren't because of BO fuckups (we had identical BOs in one game). And my main is Z.....
Please, you may like to think "ooh, my cannon was one second late, and my base is dead by mutalisks", however, think about Z - "one second late, and I've lost half of my drones to that vulture that slipped by while my sunken was finishing"..... It's the same for every race.
But, from my experience, Protoss seems easier..... I didn't know any of the shortcuts when I started the game (short of some obvious ones like "P" for Pylon or Probe, "Z" for Zealot, "C" for Cannon, etc).
The macro seemed much easier than Z macro, and the units can withstand quite a beating. Definitely very forgiving in that respect. Maybe you just suck at ZvZ and the other guy fucking sucked at ZvP.
According to ICCUP - the last 2 seasons, my ZvZ has been my best matchup.....
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On December 05 2009 11:34 lazz wrote:
Protoss is the hardest race (least starleague wins etc), don't worry about it man. just man up and play the manly race.
That manly race being terran
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On December 06 2009 08:15 Elwinros wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2009 11:34 lazz wrote:
Protoss is the hardest race (least starleague wins etc), don't worry about it man. just man up and play the manly race. That manly race being terran
You obviously never encountered the  Mantoss.
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On December 06 2009 11:42 Tom Phoenix wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2009 08:15 Elwinros wrote:On December 05 2009 11:34 lazz wrote:
Protoss is the hardest race (least starleague wins etc), don't worry about it man. just man up and play the manly race. That manly race being terran You obviously never encountered the Mantoss.
I havn't because I only play other manly terran players.
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Protoss is obviously the manly race with their big ass units that can just run in and beat the shit out of you if you don't do something special to negate it (walls, mines, seige mode, templar sniping, lurkers, etc.).
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