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On November 18 2009 00:07 Nytefish wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2009 23:54 Holgerius wrote:On November 17 2009 18:28 Nytefish wrote:
I was trying to lose games on purpose to get that nice shiney D- rank. I lifted off my CC, killed all my SCVs and hid it in the corner just to confuse my opponent. I came back 30 minutes later and found the game was still going. I quit and checked the replay, turns out he didn't even leave his main for the entire game or build additional SCVs and was slowly massing battlecruisers from one starport. Hahaha! I did a similar thing a long time ago; I played a game (D- level) on Medusa where I lifted my CC to my mineral only and then proceeded to play as normal. My opponent (Zerg) never scouted until he attacked (maybe 10 minutes into the game) so I don't think he even realized the stupid shit I had been up to. XD Well I did this TvP a while back :D http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=7781
Great game, man! XD That strategy is so good. It's weird that both you and I have thought of it, yet I have yet to see a progamer use it. We > Progamers.
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Watch a standard pro replay for each MU you want to learn, and watch it like 5 times in the early game to get a build order down. When you've learned that build order/timing, use it, and you will win every game at D-/D.
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On November 18 2009 00:37 fanatacist wrote:
Watch a standard pro replay for each MU you want to learn, and watch it like 5 times in the early game to get a build order down. When you've learned that build order/timing, use it, and you will win every game at D-/D.
True for D-, but not for D.
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On November 18 2009 00:38 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2009 00:37 fanatacist wrote:
Watch a standard pro replay for each MU you want to learn, and watch it like 5 times in the early game to get a build order down. When you've learned that build order/timing, use it, and you will win every game at D-/D. True for D-, but not for D.
I think most people at D level this late in the season lack basic BO knowledge. When people get into D+ is when I think the average player starts getting more attuned to more detailed things like counter-BOs and the mechanics increase greatly. Although, of course this is all due to personal interpretation, I've undoubtedly met D level players that were good and D level players that were abysmal.
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On November 18 2009 00:52 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2009 00:38 Holgerius wrote:On November 18 2009 00:37 fanatacist wrote:
Watch a standard pro replay for each MU you want to learn, and watch it like 5 times in the early game to get a build order down. When you've learned that build order/timing, use it, and you will win every game at D-/D. True for D-, but not for D. I think most people at D level this late in the season lack basic BO knowledge. When people get into D+ is when I think the average player starts getting more attuned to more detailed things like counter-BOs and the mechanics increase greatly. Although, of course this is all due to personal interpretation, I've undoubtedly met D level players that were good and D level players that were abysmal.
The level is sort of varying, yes, hence the statement ''you will win every game at D-/D'' isn't really accurate. I definitely agree that simply using a standard BO will beat D- players 99 games out of 100, but there are plenty of D players who uses proper BO's as well, so it takes a little more effort to make it up to D+.
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On November 18 2009 00:30 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2009 00:07 Nytefish wrote:On November 17 2009 23:54 Holgerius wrote:On November 17 2009 18:28 Nytefish wrote:
I was trying to lose games on purpose to get that nice shiney D- rank. I lifted off my CC, killed all my SCVs and hid it in the corner just to confuse my opponent. I came back 30 minutes later and found the game was still going. I quit and checked the replay, turns out he didn't even leave his main for the entire game or build additional SCVs and was slowly massing battlecruisers from one starport. Hahaha! I did a similar thing a long time ago; I played a game (D- level) on Medusa where I lifted my CC to my mineral only and then proceeded to play as normal. My opponent (Zerg) never scouted until he attacked (maybe 10 minutes into the game) so I don't think he even realized the stupid shit I had been up to. XD Well I did this TvP a while back :D http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=7781 Great game, man! XD That strategy is so good. It's weird that both you and I have thought of it, yet I have yet to see a progamer use it. We > Progamers.
Didnt boxer use it vs someone before in a live game iirc?
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On November 18 2009 03:10 samachking wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2009 00:30 Holgerius wrote:On November 18 2009 00:07 Nytefish wrote:On November 17 2009 23:54 Holgerius wrote:On November 17 2009 18:28 Nytefish wrote:
I was trying to lose games on purpose to get that nice shiney D- rank. I lifted off my CC, killed all my SCVs and hid it in the corner just to confuse my opponent. I came back 30 minutes later and found the game was still going. I quit and checked the replay, turns out he didn't even leave his main for the entire game or build additional SCVs and was slowly massing battlecruisers from one starport. Hahaha! I did a similar thing a long time ago; I played a game (D- level) on Medusa where I lifted my CC to my mineral only and then proceeded to play as normal. My opponent (Zerg) never scouted until he attacked (maybe 10 minutes into the game) so I don't think he even realized the stupid shit I had been up to. XD Well I did this TvP a while back :D http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=7781 Great game, man! XD That strategy is so good. It's weird that both you and I have thought of it, yet I have yet to see a progamer use it. We > Progamers. Didnt boxer use it vs someone before in a live game iirc?
Vs Yellow on Bladestorm, lost the match though.
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On November 18 2009 03:11 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2009 03:10 samachking wrote:On November 18 2009 00:30 Holgerius wrote:On November 18 2009 00:07 Nytefish wrote:On November 17 2009 23:54 Holgerius wrote:On November 17 2009 18:28 Nytefish wrote:
I was trying to lose games on purpose to get that nice shiney D- rank. I lifted off my CC, killed all my SCVs and hid it in the corner just to confuse my opponent. I came back 30 minutes later and found the game was still going. I quit and checked the replay, turns out he didn't even leave his main for the entire game or build additional SCVs and was slowly massing battlecruisers from one starport. Hahaha! I did a similar thing a long time ago; I played a game (D- level) on Medusa where I lifted my CC to my mineral only and then proceeded to play as normal. My opponent (Zerg) never scouted until he attacked (maybe 10 minutes into the game) so I don't think he even realized the stupid shit I had been up to. XD Well I did this TvP a while back :D http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=7781 Great game, man! XD That strategy is so good. It's weird that both you and I have thought of it, yet I have yet to see a progamer use it. We > Progamers. Didnt boxer use it vs someone before in a live game iirc? Vs Yellow on Bladestorm, lost the match though.
Lol, only Boxer would be stupid awesome enough to actually try that in a real game. :D Is there a VOD or replay of that game anywhere?
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On November 18 2009 03:41 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2009 03:11 fanatacist wrote:On November 18 2009 03:10 samachking wrote:On November 18 2009 00:30 Holgerius wrote:On November 18 2009 00:07 Nytefish wrote:On November 17 2009 23:54 Holgerius wrote:On November 17 2009 18:28 Nytefish wrote:
I was trying to lose games on purpose to get that nice shiney D- rank. I lifted off my CC, killed all my SCVs and hid it in the corner just to confuse my opponent. I came back 30 minutes later and found the game was still going. I quit and checked the replay, turns out he didn't even leave his main for the entire game or build additional SCVs and was slowly massing battlecruisers from one starport. Hahaha! I did a similar thing a long time ago; I played a game (D- level) on Medusa where I lifted my CC to my mineral only and then proceeded to play as normal. My opponent (Zerg) never scouted until he attacked (maybe 10 minutes into the game) so I don't think he even realized the stupid shit I had been up to. XD Well I did this TvP a while back :D http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=7781 Great game, man! XD That strategy is so good. It's weird that both you and I have thought of it, yet I have yet to see a progamer use it. We > Progamers. Didnt boxer use it vs someone before in a live game iirc? Vs Yellow on Bladestorm, lost the match though. Lol, only Boxer would be stupid awesome enough to actually try that in a real game. :D Is there a VOD or replay of that game anywhere?
Don't know about the full version, it's probably out there somewhere though.
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lol yeah, sometimes when you just play ridiculous strategies and play contour to logic, you find yourself lucking wins. It feels good, but doesn't make you better. I mean, if you only won because you did something "wrong" thats ok on occasion, because maybe you guessed your opponent was bluffing, or whatever. But generally speaking as you get higher playing "wrong" will get you smashed, and he wont be blatantly bluffing, so wrong is just wrong.
Anyways, its happened to me before. Playing standard and smart is harder at the d ranks than just cheesing or doing whatever you please.
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But as P it's easy to horror-gate/proxy-gate your way to >D+ against p and z respectively... Terran takes some skill, but that's a matchup I'm somewhat ok at 
Anyway, I played a realllllllly stupid game with a reallllllllly stupid strategy intended more for lols than for winning. Then my opponent epic-failed a response. I then sat around letting him get back into the game to make it interesting.... Sadly... he didn't bother to sunken up or do anything to his "hidden" expo and gg'd before I could go on another suicidal spree.
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