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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
November 12 2009 03:14 GMT
#1
If you could please read and help me, that'd be great! And please be gentle, my writing skills are very lacking. ^^

Discuss some issue of personal, local, national, or international concern and its importance to you.

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“If the school sends out children with a desire for knowledge and some idea of how to acquire and use it, it will have done its work.” Unfortunately, Richard Livingston’s quote is about a flawless, perfect education system. Intelligence is measured by quantity; grades and standardized tests are the two examples that demonstrate this. Schools encourage learning and developing broader mind, but how pragmatic is that? Students, even the brightest ones, tend to simply memorize facts to do well in school and then forget everything they learned. (Until the midterms and finals, of course). With the pressure of getting good grades, it is difficult to appreciate the whole ideals of what school is really about.
Why am I concerned about school so much? It is because, under the education system that I learn by and probably by many other systems in America, it strains the students’ learning and passions, even with elective courses that they can take. There are so many people with their own talents that aren’t related to the core curriculum, and so can’t develop them properly into a way that they can use it to do something they love professionally. Not everybody will be good at the four main subjects; math, science, social studies, and English, though I do believe every student should be required to take them. Grades subvert what true education is about. With the importance of standardized tests of SAT and ACT, how is that colleges and universities can see how well you will fit into their schools by looking at simply how well you did on two or three subjects? Even with colleges requiring essays to see more than the quantitative data, your numbers truly make or break you in getting into colleges.
Grades do not necessarily reflect on how well you did in school. An example from my life is getting C’s in Algebra II in my sophomore year; even though I didn’t do so well in that class, I learned the fundamentals and have helped me do even better in Pre-Calculus and now Calculus. Contrastingly, getting A’s in my AP English class in my junior year do not represent how much I learned, as I didn’t feel any smarter after that year. A perverse problem is cheating, becoming more and more acceptable. However, the underlying problem with cheating is not because students are apathetic to learning, but because the learning that is taught in schools is to memorize and do well on tests to get good grades. I am fortunate enough to be taking a class called Great Books. In this class, the teaching methods are different; there are no homework, quizzes, and tests, and the teacher and students get to decide on when due dates. Also in the class, students are very interactive with each other and the teacher as we discuss many different topics that would seem strange and unrelated to outsiders but very familiar and interconnected to the ones in the class. These different elements have helped each student in gaining intellectual knowledge that has really opened up our eyes to how the world is actually functioning while also learning each other’s opinions that are pragmatic to our lives.
My national concern for the educational system is that it is flawed in the way what school is suppose to be to what it actually is. Students for the most part, are taught to memorize idly for a temporary amount of time and then they forget it because none of the materials that are tested on are useful to everyday life. If school could teach lessons that are bigger than just facts and ideas for a certain subject and focus more on how society and the world operate, Livingston’s quote could come true in the way that schools will send out students with a desire for further learning with passion and also with practical use.


Thanks!

motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
November 12 2009 03:19 GMT
#2
Your opening doesn't immediately grip the reader. It would be much better if you would open with a personal story instead of an awkward quote from a random guy.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
asianskill
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States289 Posts
November 12 2009 03:26 GMT
#3
The essay needs to more about you and less about facts/ideas. Colleges look who for what kind of person you are and I don't exactly get a feel for that.
herrro
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
November 12 2009 03:33 GMT
#4
Oh, ok. So this is overall a boring essay, right? I was thinking about writing another one anyway, about maybe a concern about the Asian Americans that are living in the US don't know their culture? For example, and I'm one also, that alot of Koreans are now speaking like Konglish and not knowing how to speak their own tongue properly. Or another example is the lack of respect Koreans have for elders and stuff. Is that boring too? Thanks guys
Spinfusor
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia410 Posts
November 12 2009 03:37 GMT
#5
Rhetorical questions and annoying and you need to make your point (do you even have one?) clearer.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
November 12 2009 03:43 GMT
#6
If an admin could close this, it'd be great. Thanks

XinRan
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States530 Posts
November 12 2009 03:45 GMT
#7
Just one quick tip: do not, in any way, come across as negative in a college essay. When you criticize the idea of grades, you could come across to admissions officers as someone who is trying to justify bad grades. If you want to criticize grades, I would leave your experiences out of the essay so there is no possibility of admissions officers interpreting your statements as being defensive about your grades. If you leave your experiences out, however, you won't be answering the "importance to you" portion of the question. So, in short, I suggest you to change topics.

On November 12 2009 12:26 asianskill wrote:
The essay needs to more about you and less about facts/ideas. Colleges look who for what kind of person you are and I don't exactly get a feel for that.

Also, this is very good advice.
"To be fair, Kal played like absolute garbage. His noted inconsistency and bad record versus Jaedong high fived into a cacophony of suck." - TwoToneTerran
Spazzza
Profile Joined July 2009
1 Post
November 12 2009 03:45 GMT
#8
I don\'t know about your essay topics to be honest. When thinking of topics that I wanted to write about, I wanted to focus them on myself, and connect them to me. It\'s not about being exciting as much as it is about you. Your essay presents itself as a research paper, whereas it is supposed to be a bit of an autobiography biased essay.

With that essay, you can connect it to yourself if you really love to learn about diverse opinions, diverse topics etc. Just stay away from the research paper format that I think you\'re going in.

I kinda agree with Spinfusor, but it might be a stylistic choice that you made.
0cz3c
Profile Joined February 2008
United States564 Posts
November 12 2009 03:47 GMT
#9
Not sure if you want to talk about that topic in a personal statement. If you decide to, there needs to be far more of "you" in there (you're talking about yourself indirectly; you're not even the main character in your narrative).
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
November 12 2009 04:11 GMT
#10
Hey, I remember you asked for college essay writing help a few months ago. I think this is a good first start, however the piece lacks focus. You seem to jump from one topic to another without covering anything in detail specifically. I would advise you to write about something you are passionate about; something you can stay focused and give specific details on. Also you can improve your sentence syntax and flow.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
November 12 2009 04:23 GMT
#11
Is it ok to talk about this one girl I'm in love with? She's changed me so much, it's so weird. And she doesn't even know I like her.
quiong
Profile Joined January 2008
United States268 Posts
November 12 2009 05:01 GMT
#12

On November 12 2009 13:23 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Is it ok to talk about this one girl I'm in love with? She's changed me so much, it's so weird. And she doesn't even know I like her.


Kinda hard to know how it might sound until you write it, your 1 line description here obviously does not do justice to what must be a much more complex situation. Given the premise however I don't think it would make for a good college essay topic. At best you might sound desperate and at worst you might sound creepy/stalkerish.

I was on the admissions committee at my university for 1 year. We were a student committee that reviewed certain aspects of every application (essays, short answers, interests, etc. we didn't have access to grades) and sent recommendations to the faculty committee that actually made the decisions. In the end I don't know how much our recommendations mattered, since they were more subjective than anything.

On the whole, weird essays, ones that tried too hard to stand out, or ones that were overly political/philosophical were not well-received by us. Maybe we were a rather jaded group, but we preferred to see an essay talking about some meaningful personal experience, for example, rather than some kid who had a strong opinion on politics or international relations and was pretending to be an armchair UN Secretary General.

Again, personal experience based on the recommendations we wrote. FWIW the faculty committee may have disagreed with us 100% and actually enjoyed reading philosophical thoughts from 17 and 18 year olds.
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
November 12 2009 05:05 GMT
#13
I sent you a PM.
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sky_slasher
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States328 Posts
November 12 2009 22:44 GMT
#14
“If the school sends out children with a desire for knowledge and some idea of how to acquire and use it, it will have done its work.” Unfortunately, Richard Livingston’s quote is about a flawless, perfect education system.
-> use only one of "flawless" or "perfect"; the two mean the same

Intelligence is measured by quantity; grades and standardized tests are the two examples that demonstrate this.
-> add something that transitions from Livingston's quote to this idea; for example, something like "unfortunately, our school system measures intelligence based on quantities"
-> delete "the" b/w "are" and "two examples"

Schools encourage learning and developing broader mind, but how pragmatic is that? Students, even the brightest ones, tend to simply memorize facts ("simply" gets in the way of "to" and "memorize"; I would just delete it) to do well in school and then forget everything they learned. (Until the midterms and finals, of course). ("to do well in school and after midterms and finals forget everything they learned") With the pressure of getting ("getting" bad word to use; try something like "with the pressure to earn good grades") good grades, it is difficult to appreciate the whole ideals of what school is really about.

Why am I concerned about school so much? It is because, under the education system that I learn by and probably by many other systems in America, it strains the students’ learning and passions, even with elective courses that they can take.
-> something like "Because the education system that I learn by and many others in America strain..."

There are so many people with their own talents that aren’t related to the core curriculum, and so can’t develop them properly into a way that they can use it to do something they love professionally.
-> hm, just b/c the curriculum doesn't include their talents doesn't mean the people can't develop the talents...the talents can be developed outside of the curriculum; if what you're trying to say is that the curriculum doesn't always cover someone's talents, something like "People have talents unrelated to the core curriculum, and sometimes the curriculum does not encourage the professional development of those talents"

Not everybody will be good at the four main subjects (math, science, social studies, and English) though I do believe that every student should be required to take them.
-> needs a transition here indicating that although you believe that everyone should take them, the grades subvert what true education is about; try one of those "but" transition (but, however, nevertheless, nonetheless, etc.) in from of the "Grades subvert"

Grades subvert what true education is about.

With the importance of standardized tests of SAT and ACT, how is that colleges and universities can see how well you will fit into their schools by looking at simply how well you did on two or three subjects?
-> you have talked about school grades all along and this sentence talks about standardized tests. This sentence doesn't belong in your essay, because it seems that your essay is about school grades, not about standardized tests. ACT is somewhat related to school grades, but this sentence still seems out of place b/c your essay is about academic performance in school.

Even with colleges requiring essays to see more than the quantitative data, your numbers truly make or break you in getting into colleges.
-> something like "your numbers play a significant role in the admission decision"; if you're saying that your numbers truly determine the acceptance, why are you even writing this essay?

Grades do not necessarily reflect on how well you did in school. An example from my life is getting C’s ("C") in Algebra II in my sophomore year;
-> throughout your essay, replace "getting," "get," etc with other descriptive words; "get" is considered a colloquialism and admission guys prefer to see other words like "earn" "obtain" etc; "my life is earning C in"

even though I didn’t do so well in that class, I learned the fundamentals and the class helped me do even (delete "even") better in Pre-Calculus and now Calculus. Contrastingly, getting A ("A") in my AP English class in my junior year do not (does not) represent how much I learned, as I didn’t feel any smarter after that year.
-> did you feel smarter after Algebra II? You're contrasting earning a better grade on some classes after taking a related class to not feeling smarter after taking a class. If you did feel smarter after Algebra II, you should indicate that so the contrast is relevant; something like "the class made me feel smarter, helping me to do better in Pre-Calculus.."

A perverse problem is cheating, becoming more and more acceptable.
-> something like "Another problem arising from the obsession with good grades is the growing acceptance of cheating among students"

However, delete however the underlying problem with cheating is not because "that" instead of "because" students are apathetic to learning, but because same here the learning that is taught in schools is to memorize and do well on tests to get good grades. I am fortunate enough to be taking a class called Great Books. In this class, the teaching methods are different; there are no homework, quizzes, and tests, and the teacher and students get to decide on when delete "when" due dates.

Also in the class delete "in the class", students are very interactive with each other and the teacher as we discuss many different topics that would seem strange and unrelated to outsiders but very familiar and interconnected to the ones in the class.
-> sentence too long; something like "Also, the class interactively discusses topics that seem strange and unrelated to the core curriculum but are familiar and interconnected to the class participants."
-> give an example of the topics! Isn't any class' topic strange and unrelated if you're an outsider? I think what you wanted to say is the class discusses topics that aren't normal to the core curriculum, that's why I made the change.

These different elements have helped each student in gaining intellectual knowledge that has really opened up our eyes to how the world is actually functioning while also learning each other’s opinions that are pragmatic to our lives.
-> again, too long, something like "these elements have helped students gain intellectual knowledge that open their eyes to how the world functions and learn each other's opinions that are pragmatic to life"(avoid using words like "really" "actually"; the reader knows you're not talking about something imaginative)
-> again, example! What did you learn that opens you up? What were some opinions that were pragmatic to your life?

My national concern for the educational system my concern for some school systemsis that it isthey are flawed in the way what school is suppose to be to what it actually is.
-> how can you speak for the entire national educational system (if there is such one singular system...)? US is huge with many different school systems. And private school systems and public school systems are immensely different. Even within private systems and public systems there are many differences. After all, what you're addressing here isn't applied to the entire nation. There are many private school (that rich ppl pay like $40,000/year since kindergarten to educate their kids) that don't have the problems you're talking about here.
-> something like "My concern for some school systems is that they are flawed in addressing what school is supposed to be."

Students for the most part, [b]delete the comma[b] are taught to memorize idly for a temporary amount of time and then they forget it because none of the materials that are tested on are useful to everyday life.
-> something like "students for the most part are taught to memorize materials temporarily, and then the students forget the contents because none of them are useful to everyday life"

If school could teach lessons that are bigger than just facts and ideas for a certain subject and focus more on how society and the world operate, Livingston’s quote could come true in the way that schools will send out students with a desire for further learning with passion and also with practical use.
-> by "bigger" you mean like "more eye-opening," "more insightful"?
-> society and the world more or less the same; choose one.
-> something like "Livingston's quote could come true and schools will send out..."

Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!
asianskill
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States289 Posts
November 13 2009 02:08 GMT
#15
On November 12 2009 12:33 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Oh, ok. So this is overall a boring essay, right? I was thinking about writing another one anyway, about maybe a concern about the Asian Americans that are living in the US don't know their culture? For example, and I'm one also, that alot of Koreans are now speaking like Konglish and not knowing how to speak their own tongue properly. Or another example is the lack of respect Koreans have for elders and stuff. Is that boring too? Thanks guys


I highly suggest you sway off ethic issues. If you're applying to a school with a high amount of asian students, you tend to have the same essays about common asian principles such as discipline/respect/etc.

I suggest instead of saying how asian americans don't understand their culture, you write about your culture and how it has affected you, causing you grow as a person, be it academically or socially.
herrro
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
November 13 2009 21:19 GMT
#16
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As I saw my older brother leave for college, I knew that in one year, I would be taking that same path. Sure, he would visit on holidays and breaks, but he will never be living with our family the way he has for the past eighteen years. I began to think in his perspective; what would he miss the most and what things he took did he granted. As I continued to think this over, I realized there were many times when I could have been more appreciative and loving to my family.
I used to think of my parents as people that had do to everything I wanted. Now, every time I see my room clean, washed clothes in my drawers or food on the table, I realized how much time my mother has taken to raise me. Every so often when I vacuum my room or wash the dishes, I begin to think of how she is always doing these chores that I’ve never taken the time to think about or thank her. My mother has also supported me in everything I do; when I wanted to join a basketball league, she willingly gave me all the rides to practice and the games. When I joined a very time-consuming academic team, I was able to go to every practice and game for that too. My dad, a loving person, did not always show his feelings outwardly. However, after he with mom dropped my brother off to his new school, he has been much more open. He constantly tells me to cherish every second with family before heading off to college and so now, recently we have spent more time together, be it from watching a game of football or just talking with each other.
I have also viewed my younger sister in a different light. Like other teenagers, I used to see my young sibling just as an annoying person. Fortunately, as I got to mature, I began to notice the huge influence that I’ve had on her. I’ve been more careful in the things I say, how I spend my time, what I watch or what kind of music I listen to which has furthered my maturity. I also noticed the potential she had to becoming a great person; she is always happy, thoughtful, and can comprehend new materials and idea rather quickly. Whatever she wants to be, I know she will succeed.
I hope that the love I’ve come to recognize from my family will help me to see deeper into other things. For example I used to hate waking up early to go to school but now, I realize how great and opportunistic learning is; living in the suburbs, I’ve always taken for granted the basic needs for human survival. I also hope to be able to share this appreciation of everything towards others so that as a whole, we can all be a little bit more optimistic and grateful.



Is this more like what colleges want?
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 13 2009 21:22 GMT
#17
A word of advice, try not to post college essays in their entirety on public forums, people have been known to steal them :\
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