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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
October 12 2009 20:11 GMT
#1
In my freshman seminar, we started talking about how passion and curiosity is more important than your intelligence in terms of finding a job. Our discussing moved to talking about getting a job in a field you're passionate in.

Short summary of the discussion:
Basically, it's great that you can find that sort of job. As time goes on though, it may start to seem as more of a profession to you. You feel pressured to make money and at times when you don't, you start to wonder why are you doing this anymore. It's possible to even lose your passion. ie. Professional sports players who fall out of form and can't get back.

First, I just want to say that I kept thinking about Nada when we were discussing this.

This was sort of discussed in http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=103131 but what do you guys think? Would you find a job based on something you love or a job that pays well or is in demand? I'm on the ropes about this as well since I'm an undecided freshman in college.

Dr.Lettuce
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United Kingdom663 Posts
October 12 2009 20:28 GMT
#2
Well the best solution is to find a medium between the two. Good luck with that though. My philosophy has always been based around my dad's career. Or rather the complete opposite. He went to Cambridge and graduated with a 1st in I can't actually remember the actual subject but something to do with law. Upon becoming a lawyer he realized he hated it intensely, and moved to journalism which he absolutely loves. The problem he had, is that it didn't pay greatly, not badly either though.

He stuck with journalism until now. He said the older he gets, the more he wished he'd save money for me and my brother, and the rest of the family. Not to mention he doesn't have a pension plan. Of course he's starting to get old and it's difficult for him to find a well paying job as these are preferentially given to younger people who are more update with modern methods and techniques as well as having the ability to stay for many years.

He says he wished he'd stuck with a high paying job for around 10 years, just to really secure his finances for the rest of his life. Perhaps even retire after those 10 years, who knows where he could have ended up; and after this move on to something he really enjoyed that he could do until he wanted to voluntarily give it up, whilst having no over hanging thoughts about money or the future. That's the plan I'm going for.

You're asking one of the most difficult questions to answer in terms of work. Every person has different drives and levels of motivation centred around different things. If you want to find what's best for you. Listen to the advice of others, but go out in to the world yourself, and see what you really want. Most people never find a job they love, I envy those who do.
BeSt1g
Profile Joined December 2008
7 Posts
October 12 2009 20:35 GMT
#3
I believe in these times its best to find something in the middle, something you can wake up and not dread going to work, but also pays fairly well (decent standard of living) of course that depends on your standards i.e how materialistic you are.

For instance im becoming a union industrial electrician, i definately like working with my hands and its also can be mentally challenging so its not a repitive type job w/ good pay and benefits, but i wouldn't call it my "passion". Having this allows me to do things im passionate about like traveling by just not spending all the money i make on a expensive/house, new car and keeping up w/ the jones's like 95% on the american workfoce.

To finish off i would say you can't go wrong with persuing something you love, just make sure its a well thought out decision, going to univiersity/college definately isnt a bad decision, but you gotta deicde whats right for you a degree is becoming more and more useless [think on how many people are going to college right now atleast 75% of the people graduating from highschool and getting some kind of 4 year degree. While maybe 10-15 years ago that number was probably close to 25%, so going to college isnt your only option like teachers and parents seemingly sheepishly like push kids into] degrees have flooded the market!

p.s. whats your passion btw?
GrimAngel
Profile Joined September 2008
United States416 Posts
October 12 2009 20:53 GMT
#4
I wish we could all find jobs that we're passionate about and pays well at the same time. I think it's really hard for that to happen though. My belief is that one gets tired of most if not all jobs (look at Nada for example) so I'll rather get a high paying and stable job. But whatever floats your boat
Wan step ahead!
ZeeTemplar
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States557 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-12 21:03:13
October 12 2009 21:02 GMT
#5
On October 13 2009 05:11 Kinky wrote:
In my freshman seminar, we started talking about how passion and curiosity is more important than your intelligence in terms of finding a job. Our discussing moved to talking about getting a job in a field you're passionate in.

Short summary of the discussion:
Basically, it's great that you can find that sort of job. As time goes on though, it may start to seem as more of a profession to you. You feel pressured to make money and at times when you don't, you start to wonder why are you doing this anymore. It's possible to even lose your passion. ie. Professional sports players who fall out of form and can't get back.

First, I just want to say that I kept thinking about Nada when we were discussing this.

This was sort of discussed in http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=103131 but what do you guys think? Would you find a job based on something you love or a job that pays well or is in demand? I'm on the ropes about this as well since I'm an undecided freshman in college.



I am sure the community will be split in half over this. For me if it is a JOB I am looking for I would obviously try to find one that pays better, rather then one that I have "passion" for. If you're trying to have a career in something then I would say try to find some middle ground. Overtime doing the same things over and over like you mentioned you lose that passion. Its up to the person to find some way to spark that passion or interest back up. Try to find something that involves something youre interested in and do well/good in. Don't do something you're terrible at just because it pays well...haha. It will save yourself and others headaches.

[edit] yes what is your passion?
Jangbi storms!!!
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
October 12 2009 21:21 GMT
#6
NaDa has said in many many interviews that he doesnt play because he wants to play the game all day anymore, he only plays because of the passion of his fans.
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
October 13 2009 00:04 GMT
#7
I don't exactly have a passion yet per se, which is why I'm undecided. If I had to choose though, it'd probably be the Japanese language/culture.
Kingfisher
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada144 Posts
October 13 2009 01:00 GMT
#8
I think following the passion is the best option. Realistically though, that seems to be really hard for that to be achieved.

My math teacher once said something great about this topic. He said that the worst feeling in the world is waiting for the clock to hit 5 p.m.

Although personally I'm not following this idea cause of my lack passion, I think you definitely should.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-13 04:25:03
October 13 2009 04:11 GMT
#9
bullshit
it's all about money
you can learn to be passionate about anything
even something as mundane as determining whether the counterparty will default or not (think on the grand scale! people doing this job fucked up bigtime a year ago. there's so many advances to be made in this area. this shit is fucking fascinating when you get right down to it because in the end, everyone is guessing.

edit: here's an example. let's take a totally boring job: QA (quantitative analytics). models are fucking up a lot lately. events/collapses that are supposed to be happening once every hundred years are popping like candy on a yearly basis. can you make a better model? become a quant! duuuuude it seems boring? after all its greeks and numbers right? BUT the implications are frigging HUGE. you could literally be the guy that stops everyone from getting gamma-pwnt in 2-3 years. or you can cause a collapse bigger than ever. fun timezzzz. and this is just one example -- even though being a quant seems boring, there are ways to develop a passion for it, think about it! pays well too ^_^ not that i'd ever be a quant but don't let that dissuade you

that's my view )
passions change anyway, stick with a well-paid job and develop a passion for it
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
October 13 2009 10:08 GMT
#10
I have experience of a somewhat well-paid, but totally uninteresting job. No, it was not 100% boring (only doing nothing is like that), but I never had the passion the kind of stuff I did.

Guess what, I quit even though they offered me a +50% salary increase. I'm definetely that kind of guy who needs to be in love with what he's doing, so I just cannot stand such a job. Youth is the period when you have the most freedom, you're not bound by countless obligations. Wasting it to make money for your eldership when you're weak and apathic is just stupid.
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