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Am i the only one to have a retarded logic ?

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RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
September 18 2009 07:42 GMT
#1
I mean i'm usually a 180-200 apm zerg player, but it happened so many times on my zvp :
-whenever i've less apm (150-160)
-when i replace my main / natural and eventually second naturals hotkeys to more units

> I macro more.

And it helps me win.

Wtf ?

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Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
stanley_
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States816 Posts
September 18 2009 07:48 GMT
#2
confidence plays a huge role in starcraft. If you think it helps then do it all the time!
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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
September 18 2009 07:53 GMT
#3
Maybe you should stop checking your apm after every replay. It'll just make you focus on increasing your apm the next game and you'll be less concentrated on the actually game.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
September 18 2009 08:32 GMT
#4
efficiency much with apm? i used to spam a lot because i was under the impression that high apm automatically meant better skill. i was a ~260 apm zerg for awhile but i would often make stupid mistakes (2 drones on gas anyone? worst feeling ever...) because i was more worried about the number of clicks than the actual usefulness of the click (i wanted to be like a jaedong fpvod). someone showed me i had a redundancy of around the high 40 percents and that (combined with stories of kwark's epic 70 apm) compelled me to drop my apm as much as possible and make slower, smarter clicks. now i have around 190 apm and i macro much better than before (though still not as good as i wish).

moral of the story: maybe you don't make the best clicks when you have a higher apm. that was the case for me. try slowing down to make better clicks rather than more clicks.
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RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
September 18 2009 08:48 GMT
#5
Well, it's not that i spam, but that i'm microing too hard when it's really really useless. Like microing 4 glings for 15 sec to kill this godamn templar when i could just skip it and look @ my base to macro the sh.t out of all these idle larvaes.
But what i don't understand is that i'm macroing WAY better when i'm just f2 the main and then macro all the hatches even if they're out of my main (mouse scrolling over all the hatches and no 5sh 6sh 7sh 8sh 9sh or something get what i mean ?)
For some reason it makes my macro way better... T_T
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daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
September 18 2009 10:03 GMT
#6
its probably because when you hotkey your units you spend much less time babysitting them and therefore have increased time to actually macro
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Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
September 18 2009 13:26 GMT
#7
Hmm.. I do 0sh9sh8sh7s6sh
do you use 2 hands for macro?
Entusman #51
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
September 18 2009 13:33 GMT
#8
maybe having 3 bases helps you win more than your apm?
Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
September 18 2009 19:37 GMT
#9
On September 18 2009 22:33 geometryb wrote:
maybe having 3 bases helps you win more than your apm?



rofl gg
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Achromic
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
773 Posts
September 18 2009 19:56 GMT
#10
On September 18 2009 16:53 FirstBorn wrote:
Maybe you should stop checking your apm after every replay. It'll just make you focus on increasing your apm the next game and you'll be less concentrated on the actually game.

Blah
StartAgain
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Japan52 Posts
September 18 2009 20:16 GMT
#11
On September 19 2009 04:56 Ryoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2009 16:53 FirstBorn wrote:
Maybe you should stop checking your apm after every replay. It'll just make you focus on increasing your apm the next game and you'll be less concentrated on the actually game.



This. I remember I used to spamwhore a lot and after every game, see if my APM reached a certain number. All of that means nothing, obviously. Without BWChart or trying very hard, I can easily reach 200 APM with less redundancy.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
September 18 2009 21:34 GMT
#12
I suspect your apm does this when you're playing worse players. You have less things to think about and do (because they're not really pressuring you) and you basically go into macro mode because you're bored and you don't need to devote hotkeys to macro because you attention is not constantly being forced elsewhere, so it's easier to just 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a0a

Maybe. Otherwise you just have a lot of bad habits when you play at a higher apm.
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ImNotBisu
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada142 Posts
September 18 2009 22:15 GMT
#13
When I offrace Z, I have hotkeys 8 9 0 for main hatch, 1 nat hatch, 1 expo hatch and double tap to screen hop to the general area. Then I just ctrl+click on a larva to morph everything.

Obviously, Jaedong has better macro with his 5sh6sh7sh8sh9sd0sd setup.

But my setup helped me get C with Z easy, as it gives you decent macro and very good micro.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
September 18 2009 22:32 GMT
#14
On September 19 2009 07:15 ImNotBisu wrote:
When I offrace Z, I have hotkeys 8 9 0 for main hatch, 1 nat hatch, 1 expo hatch and double tap to screen hop to the general area. Then I just ctrl+click on a larva to morph everything.

Obviously, Jaedong has better macro with his 5sh6sh7sh8sh9sd0sd setup.

But my setup helped me get C with Z easy, as it gives you decent macro and very good micro.

JD's hotkeys are actually a bit different from the "standard" ie he starts hatches from 4 etc
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