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levelzx
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Poland174 Posts
September 09 2009 17:50 GMT
#1
I'm Terran player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Zerg as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost everything: timings, BO's, Drone production etc. When I rushed to 2-Hatch Muta, bunch of Marines came and blasted my natural. 3 Hatches = instant rush. Basically, I got screwed and returned to my Terrans.

My point is that Zerg are in fact the hardest race to play. Surely, Sauron production looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!

- You cannot cancel mis-produced units without Larva waste.
- You must know how to keep balance between Drones and other units.
- You must take care of your Ovies.
- You need to scout urgently & constantly...
- You have to fight on distant ares, where your expos are.
- Controlling gazillion of units is horrible.

...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.

As a result, from today, I respect Zerg enemies the most, especially when they can handle all these thing well.

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Favourite Protoss - Stork, Favourite Terran - Flash, Favourite Zerg - Calm
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
September 09 2009 17:51 GMT
#2
One thing I still can't do properly as a zerg player is controlling my ovies

they always die or are in the wrong place
dats racist
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
September 09 2009 17:53 GMT
#3
Thank you young Terran friend.

Tell your comrades to stop meching me and we can all be on good terms once again.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
September 09 2009 17:54 GMT
#4
Zergs are for realy man, look at the dong! he might cry sometimes but he is a real man...

Btw, try protoss sometimes.. you will loss respect to us hahaha kidding
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 09 2009 17:55 GMT
#5
for the horde
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
September 09 2009 17:56 GMT
#6
Zerg becomes a lot easier when you learn to build zerglings.
geegee1
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States618 Posts
September 09 2009 17:57 GMT
#7
terran is for real man REAL REAL MENS
pew pew
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
September 09 2009 17:57 GMT
#8
I'm a Zerg player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Terran as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost everything: timings, BO's, SCV production etc. When I rushed to 1-Rax FE, bunch of lings came and blasted my natural. 1 Rax Fac = instant rush. Basically, I got screwed and returned to my Zergs.

My point is that Terran are in fact the hardest race to play. Surely, Terran Ball of Death looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!

- It's impossible to keep your minerals down
- You must know how to keep producing SCVs
- You must take care of your Vessels.
- You need to scout urgently & constantly...
- You have to fight on distant ares, where his expos are.
- Controlling gazillion of m&m is horrible.

...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.

The thing is, every race has its difficulties. I'm glad you respect a race other than yours, but I don't believe in a "this race is harder than that" mindset.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 09 2009 18:01 GMT
#9
On September 10 2009 02:57 Saracen wrote:
I'm a Zerg player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Terran as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost everything: timings, BO's, SCV production etc. When I rushed to 1-Rax FE, bunch of lings came and blasted my natural. 1 Rax Fac = instant rush. Basically, I got screwed and returned to my Zergs.

My point is that Terran are in fact the hardest race to play. Surely, Terran Ball of Death looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!

- It's impossible to keep your minerals down
- You must know how to keep producing SCVs
- You must take care of your Vessels.
- You need to scout urgently & constantly...
- You have to fight on distant ares, where his expos are.
- Controlling gazillion of m&m is horrible.

...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.

The thing is, every race has its difficulties. I'm glad you respect a race other than yours, but I don't believe in a "this race is harder than that" mindset.

/thread

It's only a matter of time before someone comes into this thread and starts crying about Protoss, though.
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Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4514 Posts
September 09 2009 18:04 GMT
#10
protoss ez race
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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
September 09 2009 18:06 GMT
#11
omg lol
levelzx
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Poland174 Posts
September 09 2009 18:09 GMT
#12
@Saracen - haha, well, nice to see it from other perspective. But still, I think Terran is more mistake-forgiving race than Zerg.
Favourite Protoss - Stork, Favourite Terran - Flash, Favourite Zerg - Calm
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
September 09 2009 18:11 GMT
#13
On September 10 2009 03:04 ret wrote:
protoss ez race

Totally quoting this everywhere.
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
September 09 2009 18:14 GMT
#14
I'm Terran player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Protoss as a race. It was totally, totally ez.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 09 2009 18:16 GMT
#15
On September 10 2009 02:57 Saracen wrote:
I'm a Zerg player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Terran as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost everything: timings, BO's, SCV production etc. When I rushed to 1-Rax FE, bunch of lings came and blasted my natural. 1 Rax Fac = instant rush. Basically, I got screwed and returned to my Zergs.

My point is that Terran are in fact the hardest race to play. Surely, Terran Ball of Death looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!

- It's impossible to keep your minerals down
- You must know how to keep producing SCVs
- You must take care of your Vessels.
- You need to scout urgently & constantly...
- You have to fight on distant ares, where his expos are.
- Controlling gazillion of m&m is horrible.

...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.

The thing is, every race has its difficulties. I'm glad you respect a race other than yours, but I don't believe in a "this race is harder than that" mindset.

Or you can mech. Ta-da, and TvZ becomes as simple as PvZ with the imbalances reversed.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Wotans_Fire
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United Kingdom294 Posts
September 09 2009 18:17 GMT
#16
Terran is definitely easier now because of all the mech and tricky play they can do.
"OMG this is pivotal!" ~ Tasteless "Indeed" ~ Artosis
Leg[end]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States241 Posts
September 09 2009 18:21 GMT
#17
On September 10 2009 02:53 SCC-Faust wrote:
Thank you young Terran friend.

Tell your comrades to stop meching me and we can all be on good terms once again.


Hear hear!
Legends Never Die ;;
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-09 18:22:57
September 09 2009 18:22 GMT
#18
but seriously:

Surely, 1a2a3a attacking looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!

- Your units are always getting stuck trying to move around your base which is full of fat gateways
- You must take care of your Obs. They are expensive, slow, and fragile but are necessary in every matchup as they are your only form of mobile detection
- Probes are killed ridiculously fast by almost anything
- You need to scout urgently & constantly. a zerg tech switch can be instant loss. Sometimes it's impossible to scout so you have to guess, and if you guess wrong, you lose.
- You have to fight with half your army because if you don't leave units behind zerg will mass drop or counter.
- You have to deal with heavy probe losses in every pvt game no matter how good your defenses are.
- Templar sometimes lag when you ask them to storm, and often refuse to merge into archon before dancing with each other for 3 seconds.

...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
September 09 2009 18:22 GMT
#19
I'm even a protoss player and I think that protoss is easier. Except in PvZ, then zerg is easier.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-09 18:59:31
September 09 2009 18:58 GMT
#20
I'm a Terran player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking protoss as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost nothing. When I forge-expanded, my cannons were always there to kill any zerglings. +1 speedlots = instant win. I don't know if I'll return to zergs.

My point is that Protoss is in fact the best race to play. Surely, mind control is appealing, but you don't need it when you have psi storm!

- Maelstroming a 200/200 zerg army is hilarious.
- Probes can hop over terran walls with the pylon hop.
- Shuttles run by turrets ez w/ the speed upgrade.
- 1 reaver shot on workers @ fastest = rofl. Same w/ psi storm or stasis.
- If the zerg doesn't leave an ovie at his base you can ninja it ez.
- All your buildings look badass.

...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, it's ok at my level!


Just kidding kinda...this is actually a true story for me a couple of months ago. Ended up switching to protoss for a short time and then switched to terran. Now I can play all 3 races at a D+ level, but I think Terran is still my best.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 09 2009 19:09 GMT
#21
On September 10 2009 03:16 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2009 02:57 Saracen wrote:
I'm a Zerg player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Terran as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost everything: timings, BO's, SCV production etc. When I rushed to 1-Rax FE, bunch of lings came and blasted my natural. 1 Rax Fac = instant rush. Basically, I got screwed and returned to my Zergs.

My point is that Terran are in fact the hardest race to play. Surely, Terran Ball of Death looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!

- It's impossible to keep your minerals down
- You must know how to keep producing SCVs
- You must take care of your Vessels.
- You need to scout urgently & constantly...
- You have to fight on distant ares, where his expos are.
- Controlling gazillion of m&m is horrible.

...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.

The thing is, every race has its difficulties. I'm glad you respect a race other than yours, but I don't believe in a "this race is harder than that" mindset.

Or you can mech. Ta-da, and TvZ becomes as simple as PvZ with the imbalances reversed.

Too bad, mech is VERY map dependent.

Fact about TvZ - both races indeed ARE similar. You need good tank positioning, and you need to siege/unsiege them. Same thing for lurkers. When attacking lurkers with MnM you should spread your forces. But attacking Terran army requires spreading as well! You have to protect defilers and try to prevent killing them by keeping scourges near and killing vessels. But T has to protect vessels and try to prevent killing them by keeping rines near and killing scourges. I sometimes happen to offrace with my friends, by switching races, and i tell you - my flaws in TvZ are the same flaws as in ZvT...
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
September 09 2009 19:11 GMT
#22
Lol at the amount of sarcasm in this thread hahahaha!
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
September 09 2009 19:42 GMT
#23
It all balances out, if you play a protoss you can play with one hand.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
September 09 2009 19:48 GMT
#24
On September 10 2009 04:11 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Lol at the amount of sarcasm in this thread hahahaha!

Yeah, but as soon as I read the OP, I knew the sarcasm would pour in lol. You can't say you didn't see it coming.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 09 2009 20:04 GMT
#25
Playing Zerg requires alot of dedication.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
magh
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden95 Posts
September 09 2009 20:12 GMT
#26
On September 10 2009 02:53 SCC-Faust wrote:
Thank you young Terran friend.

Tell your comrades to stop meching me and we can all be on good terms once again.


This. ZvT is turning into something boring, and... lame.


On September 10 2009 03:58 3 Lions wrote:
I'm a Terran player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking protoss as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost nothing. When I forge-expanded, my cannons were always there to kill any zerglings. +1 speedlots = instant win. I don't know if I'll return to zergs.

My point is that Protoss is in fact the best race to play. Surely, mind control is appealing, but you don't need it when you have psi storm!

- Maelstroming a 200/200 zerg army is hilarious.
- Probes can hop over terran walls with the pylon hop.
- Shuttles run by turrets ez w/ the speed upgrade.
- 1 reaver shot on workers @ fastest = rofl. Same w/ psi storm or stasis.
- If the zerg doesn't leave an ovie at his base you can ninja it ez.
- All your buildings look badass.

...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, it's ok at my level!


Just kidding kinda...this is actually a true story for me a couple of months ago. Ended up switching to protoss for a short time and then switched to terran. Now I can play all 3 races at a D+ level, but I think Terran is still my best.


I laughed so hard, THANK YOU!

And thanks to the OP, for the respect. Though you can't say that it's easy to fend off all the rushes a zerg can throw at you when playing T or P... [Atleast I think so]
And the front door is open.. AGAIN!!
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
September 09 2009 20:49 GMT
#27
I don't believe you a terran player. You just wanted to make a thread about how hard zerg is to make it look like zerg players are more skilled.

2/5. Bad troll.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-09 22:18:53
September 09 2009 21:02 GMT
#28
edit: wtf howd this happen
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
September 09 2009 21:50 GMT
#29
On September 10 2009 02:50 levelzx wrote:
I'm Terran player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Zerg as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost everything: timings, BO's, Drone production etc. When I rushed to 2-Hatch Muta, bunch of Marines came and blasted my natural. 3 Hatches = instant rush. Basically, I got screwed and returned to my Terrans.

My point is that Zerg are in fact the hardest race to play. Surely, Sauron production looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!

- You cannot cancel mis-produced units without Larva waste.
- You must know how to keep balance between Drones and other units.
- You must take care of your Ovies.
- You need to scout urgently & constantly...
- You have to fight on distant ares, where your expos are.
- Controlling gazillion of units is horrible.

...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.

As a result, from today, I respect Zerg enemies the most, especially when they can handle all these thing well.

He dont you go copying me now! Though I am glad that my fans share my views on regarding other races difficulty.
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We cant all be winners better luck next time, kid.
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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
September 09 2009 22:28 GMT
#30
I will admit that Protoss is definitely the easiest race to play, however that doesn't make it any less fun :D
U Gotta Skate.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
September 10 2009 00:04 GMT
#31
i agree completely that zerg are the hardest race.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
September 10 2009 00:18 GMT
#32
On September 10 2009 04:09 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2009 03:16 Shikyo wrote:
On September 10 2009 02:57 Saracen wrote:
I'm a Zerg player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Terran as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost everything: timings, BO's, SCV production etc. When I rushed to 1-Rax FE, bunch of lings came and blasted my natural. 1 Rax Fac = instant rush. Basically, I got screwed and returned to my Zergs.

My point is that Terran are in fact the hardest race to play. Surely, Terran Ball of Death looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!

- It's impossible to keep your minerals down
- You must know how to keep producing SCVs
- You must take care of your Vessels.
- You need to scout urgently & constantly...
- You have to fight on distant ares, where his expos are.
- Controlling gazillion of m&m is horrible.

...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.

The thing is, every race has its difficulties. I'm glad you respect a race other than yours, but I don't believe in a "this race is harder than that" mindset.

Or you can mech. Ta-da, and TvZ becomes as simple as PvZ with the imbalances reversed.

Too bad, mech is VERY map dependent.

Fact about TvZ - both races indeed ARE similar. You need good tank positioning, and you need to siege/unsiege them. Same thing for lurkers. When attacking lurkers with MnM you should spread your forces. But attacking Terran army requires spreading as well! You have to protect defilers and try to prevent killing them by keeping scourges near and killing vessels. But T has to protect vessels and try to prevent killing them by keeping rines near and killing scourges. I sometimes happen to offrace with my friends, by switching races, and i tell you - my flaws in TvZ are the same flaws as in ZvT...

They say Mech is map dependant, but Fantasy's made it work on a lot of the maps and other terrans have meched on the majority of maps too. Just coincidence?
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