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I'm Terran player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Zerg as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost everything: timings, BO's, Drone production etc. When I rushed to 2-Hatch Muta, bunch of Marines came and blasted my natural. 3 Hatches = instant rush. Basically, I got screwed and returned to my Terrans.
My point is that Zerg are in fact the hardest race to play. Surely, Sauron production looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!
- You cannot cancel mis-produced units without Larva waste.
- You must know how to keep balance between Drones and other units.
- You must take care of your Ovies.
- You need to scout urgently & constantly...
- You have to fight on distant ares, where your expos are.
- Controlling gazillion of units is horrible.
...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.
As a result, from today, I respect Zerg enemies the most, especially when they can handle all these thing well.
 
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Thank you young Terran friend.
Tell your comrades to stop meching me and we can all be on good terms once again.
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Zergs are for realy man, look at the dong! he might cry sometimes but he is a real man...
Btw, try protoss sometimes.. you will loss respect to us  hahaha kidding
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Zerg becomes a lot easier when you learn to build zerglings.
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terran is for real man REAL REAL MENS
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I'm a Zerg player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Terran as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost everything: timings, BO's, SCV production etc. When I rushed to 1-Rax FE, bunch of lings came and blasted my natural. 1 Rax Fac = instant rush. Basically, I got screwed and returned to my Zergs.
My point is that Terran are in fact the hardest race to play. Surely, Terran Ball of Death looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!
- It's impossible to keep your minerals down
- You must know how to keep producing SCVs
- You must take care of your Vessels.
- You need to scout urgently & constantly...
- You have to fight on distant ares, where his expos are.
- Controlling gazillion of m&m is horrible.
...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.
The thing is, every race has its difficulties. I'm glad you respect a race other than yours, but I don't believe in a "this race is harder than that" mindset.
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United States47024 Posts
On September 10 2009 02:57 Saracen wrote:
I'm a Zerg player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Terran as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost everything: timings, BO's, SCV production etc. When I rushed to 1-Rax FE, bunch of lings came and blasted my natural. 1 Rax Fac = instant rush. Basically, I got screwed and returned to my Zergs.
My point is that Terran are in fact the hardest race to play. Surely, Terran Ball of Death looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!
- It's impossible to keep your minerals down
- You must know how to keep producing SCVs
- You must take care of your Vessels.
- You need to scout urgently & constantly...
- You have to fight on distant ares, where his expos are.
- Controlling gazillion of m&m is horrible.
...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.
The thing is, every race has its difficulties. I'm glad you respect a race other than yours, but I don't believe in a "this race is harder than that" mindset.
/thread
It's only a matter of time before someone comes into this thread and starts crying about Protoss, though.
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Netherlands4520 Posts
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@Saracen - haha, well, nice to see it from other perspective. But still, I think Terran is more mistake-forgiving race than Zerg.
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On September 10 2009 03:04 ret wrote:
protoss ez race
Totally quoting this everywhere.
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I'm Terran player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Protoss as a race. It was totally, totally ez.
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On September 10 2009 02:57 Saracen wrote:
I'm a Zerg player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Terran as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost everything: timings, BO's, SCV production etc. When I rushed to 1-Rax FE, bunch of lings came and blasted my natural. 1 Rax Fac = instant rush. Basically, I got screwed and returned to my Zergs.
My point is that Terran are in fact the hardest race to play. Surely, Terran Ball of Death looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!
- It's impossible to keep your minerals down
- You must know how to keep producing SCVs
- You must take care of your Vessels.
- You need to scout urgently & constantly...
- You have to fight on distant ares, where his expos are.
- Controlling gazillion of m&m is horrible.
...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.
The thing is, every race has its difficulties. I'm glad you respect a race other than yours, but I don't believe in a "this race is harder than that" mindset.
Or you can mech. Ta-da, and TvZ becomes as simple as PvZ with the imbalances reversed.
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Terran is definitely easier now because of all the mech and tricky play they can do.
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On September 10 2009 02:53 SCC-Faust wrote:
Thank you young Terran friend.
Tell your comrades to stop meching me and we can all be on good terms once again.
Hear hear!
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but seriously:
Surely, 1a2a3a attacking looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!
- Your units are always getting stuck trying to move around your base which is full of fat gateways
- You must take care of your Obs. They are expensive, slow, and fragile but are necessary in every matchup as they are your only form of mobile detection
- Probes are killed ridiculously fast by almost anything
- You need to scout urgently & constantly. a zerg tech switch can be instant loss. Sometimes it's impossible to scout so you have to guess, and if you guess wrong, you lose.
- You have to fight with half your army because if you don't leave units behind zerg will mass drop or counter.
- You have to deal with heavy probe losses in every pvt game no matter how good your defenses are.
- Templar sometimes lag when you ask them to storm, and often refuse to merge into archon before dancing with each other for 3 seconds.
...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.
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I'm even a protoss player and I think that protoss is easier. Except in PvZ, then zerg is easier.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
I'm a Terran player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking protoss as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost nothing. When I forge-expanded, my cannons were always there to kill any zerglings. +1 speedlots = instant win. I don't know if I'll return to zergs.
My point is that Protoss is in fact the best race to play. Surely, mind control is appealing, but you don't need it when you have psi storm!
- Maelstroming a 200/200 zerg army is hilarious.
- Probes can hop over terran walls with the pylon hop.
- Shuttles run by turrets ez w/ the speed upgrade.
- 1 reaver shot on workers @ fastest = rofl. Same w/ psi storm or stasis.
- If the zerg doesn't leave an ovie at his base you can ninja it ez.
- All your buildings look badass.
...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, it's ok at my level!
Just kidding kinda...this is actually a true story for me a couple of months ago. Ended up switching to protoss for a short time and then switched to terran. Now I can play all 3 races at a D+ level, but I think Terran is still my best.
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On September 10 2009 03:16 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2009 02:57 Saracen wrote:
I'm a Zerg player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Terran as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost everything: timings, BO's, SCV production etc. When I rushed to 1-Rax FE, bunch of lings came and blasted my natural. 1 Rax Fac = instant rush. Basically, I got screwed and returned to my Zergs.
My point is that Terran are in fact the hardest race to play. Surely, Terran Ball of Death looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!
- It's impossible to keep your minerals down
- You must know how to keep producing SCVs
- You must take care of your Vessels.
- You need to scout urgently & constantly...
- You have to fight on distant ares, where his expos are.
- Controlling gazillion of m&m is horrible.
...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.
The thing is, every race has its difficulties. I'm glad you respect a race other than yours, but I don't believe in a "this race is harder than that" mindset. Or you can mech. Ta-da, and TvZ becomes as simple as PvZ with the imbalances reversed.
Too bad, mech is VERY map dependent.
Fact about TvZ - both races indeed ARE similar. You need good tank positioning, and you need to siege/unsiege them. Same thing for lurkers. When attacking lurkers with MnM you should spread your forces. But attacking Terran army requires spreading as well! You have to protect defilers and try to prevent killing them by keeping scourges near and killing vessels. But T has to protect vessels and try to prevent killing them by keeping rines near and killing scourges. I sometimes happen to offrace with my friends, by switching races, and i tell you - my flaws in TvZ are the same flaws as in ZvT...
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Lol at the amount of sarcasm in this thread hahahaha!
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It all balances out, if you play a protoss you can play with one hand.
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On September 10 2009 04:11 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Lol at the amount of sarcasm in this thread hahahaha!
Yeah, but as soon as I read the OP, I knew the sarcasm would pour in lol. You can't say you didn't see it coming.
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Playing Zerg requires alot of dedication.
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On September 10 2009 02:53 SCC-Faust wrote:
Thank you young Terran friend.
Tell your comrades to stop meching me and we can all be on good terms once again.
This. ZvT is turning into something boring, and... lame.
On September 10 2009 03:58 3 Lions wrote:
I'm a Terran player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking protoss as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost nothing. When I forge-expanded, my cannons were always there to kill any zerglings. +1 speedlots = instant win. I don't know if I'll return to zergs.
My point is that Protoss is in fact the best race to play. Surely, mind control is appealing, but you don't need it when you have psi storm!
- Maelstroming a 200/200 zerg army is hilarious.
- Probes can hop over terran walls with the pylon hop.
- Shuttles run by turrets ez w/ the speed upgrade.
- 1 reaver shot on workers @ fastest = rofl. Same w/ psi storm or stasis.
- If the zerg doesn't leave an ovie at his base you can ninja it ez.
- All your buildings look badass.
...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, it's ok at my level!
Just kidding kinda...this is actually a true story for me a couple of months ago. Ended up switching to protoss for a short time and then switched to terran. Now I can play all 3 races at a D+ level, but I think Terran is still my best.
I laughed so hard, THANK YOU!
And thanks to the OP, for the respect. Though you can't say that it's easy to fend off all the rushes a zerg can throw at you when playing T or P... [Atleast I think so]
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I don't believe you a terran player. You just wanted to make a thread about how hard zerg is to make it look like zerg players are more skilled.
2/5. Bad troll.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
edit: wtf howd this happen
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On September 10 2009 02:50 levelzx wrote:
I'm Terran player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Zerg as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost everything: timings, BO's, Drone production etc. When I rushed to 2-Hatch Muta, bunch of Marines came and blasted my natural. 3 Hatches = instant rush. Basically, I got screwed and returned to my Terrans.
My point is that Zerg are in fact the hardest race to play. Surely, Sauron production looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!
- You cannot cancel mis-produced units without Larva waste.
- You must know how to keep balance between Drones and other units.
- You must take care of your Ovies.
- You need to scout urgently & constantly...
- You have to fight on distant ares, where your expos are.
- Controlling gazillion of units is horrible.
...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.
As a result, from today, I respect Zerg enemies the most, especially when they can handle all these thing well.
He dont you go copying me now! Though I am glad that my fans share my views on regarding other races difficulty.
awww.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblogs.php?topic_id=76461
We cant all be winners better luck next time, kid.
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I will admit that Protoss is definitely the easiest race to play, however that doesn't make it any less fun :D
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i agree completely that zerg are the hardest race.
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On September 10 2009 04:09 Kaniol wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2009 03:16 Shikyo wrote:On September 10 2009 02:57 Saracen wrote:
I'm a Zerg player, but recently, I tried some fun games picking Terran as a race. It was totally, totally weird! I got confused with almost everything: timings, BO's, SCV production etc. When I rushed to 1-Rax FE, bunch of lings came and blasted my natural. 1 Rax Fac = instant rush. Basically, I got screwed and returned to my Zergs.
My point is that Terran are in fact the hardest race to play. Surely, Terran Ball of Death looks appealing, but there are so many damn issues to master, it's horrible!
- It's impossible to keep your minerals down
- You must know how to keep producing SCVs
- You must take care of your Vessels.
- You need to scout urgently & constantly...
- You have to fight on distant ares, where his expos are.
- Controlling gazillion of m&m is horrible.
...and if you fail at multitasking/synchronizing your attack, you are dead.
The thing is, every race has its difficulties. I'm glad you respect a race other than yours, but I don't believe in a "this race is harder than that" mindset. Or you can mech. Ta-da, and TvZ becomes as simple as PvZ with the imbalances reversed. Too bad, mech is VERY map dependent. Fact about TvZ - both races indeed ARE similar. You need good tank positioning, and you need to siege/unsiege them. Same thing for lurkers. When attacking lurkers with MnM you should spread your forces. But attacking Terran army requires spreading as well! You have to protect defilers and try to prevent killing them by keeping scourges near and killing vessels. But T has to protect vessels and try to prevent killing them by keeping rines near and killing scourges. I sometimes happen to offrace with my friends, by switching races, and i tell you - my flaws in TvZ are the same flaws as in ZvT...
They say Mech is map dependant, but Fantasy's made it work on a lot of the maps and other terrans have meched on the majority of maps too. Just coincidence?
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