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You all heard practice makes perfect and probally asked yourself how much practice does it take to be at the top. I am briefly going to tell you guys what it takes.
Starcraft is a completitive RTS that mainly relys on the player's strategy and experience. In order to become a world class in anything one must atleast train for 10,000 hours(somewhere close), according to research, statistics, and facts at a specific activity to attain that level of skill.
Look at players like Jaedong. These plays didn't get skillful overnight. They spent years practicing the same scenerio to become one of the best. However, I don't even think Jaedong has reached that level (10,000+ Hrs) so he has more room to improve.
So lets talk on a daily basis. We only have 24 hours in day, how do they achieve 10,000+ hrs of practice. Obviously, the more hours you put in one day and do it consistantly, the faster your results. Imagine if you played starcraft 5 hours a day properly (quality training). It would take you roughly 2000 days (5.5 years) of solid training to become at a progamer's level and probally more. Good enough to be called "Perfect".
This doesnt just apply in starcraft but anything else you can think off such as sports, cooking etc. So, i hope by reading this post you can better understand the concept of training and its requirements.
ABOUT ME: I am new to TL and iCCup. This is also my first post and hope you enjoyed reading it and learning something new. As a casual gamer, I found it difficult to make a transition from doing 3v3s and 2v2s on BGH (yes i kno its nub) to low money 1v1s. I watch alot of VODs for fun but never thought about actually playing like them. From the start I always wondered how these players are only good because of their good coachs and staff. Yes coachs are good but for strategy and other things. What made these plays good pondered me not only for starcraft but for eveything. Now i realize no matter who it is practice is the same for everyone and everyone must pay the same price to get the same level of success. Noone is born good at something, it must be forced. I started playing Starcraft iCCup and i was horrible (still am ;D) Lost my first 20 games even though i had around 160 apm. i simply didnt know how 1v1s worked. I didnt give up and remembered this rule and get those hours cranking. Now its been a month and i finished with D+ with a record of 27-45 and hoping to go for C- this season. Just keep fighting!
 
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On September 08 2009 03:32 r4j2ill wrote:
You all heard practice makes perfect and probally asked yourself how much practice does it take to be at the top. I am briefly going to tell you guys what it takes.
Starcraft is a completitive RTS that mainly relys on the player's strategy and experience. In order to become a world class in anything one must atleast train for 10,000 hours(somewhere close), according to research, statistics, and facts at a specific activity to attain that level of skill.
Look at players like Jaedong. These plays didn't get skillful overnight. They spent years practicing the same scenerio to become one of the best. However, I don't even think Jaedong has reached that level (10,000+ Hrs) so he has more room to improve.
So lets talk on a daily basis. We only have 24 hours in day, how do they achieve 10,000+ hrs of practice. Obviously, the more hours you put in one day and do it consistantly, the faster your results. Imagine if you played starcraft 5 hours a day properly (quality training). It would take you roughly 2000 days (5.5 years) of solid training to become at a progamer's level and probally more. Good enough to be called "Perfect".
This doesnt just apply in starcraft but anything else you can think off such as sports, cooking etc. So, i hope by reading this post you can better understand the concept of training and its requirements.
ABOUT ME: I am new to TL and iCCup. This is also my first post and hope you enjoyed reading it and learning something new. As a casual gamer, I found it difficult to make a transition from doing 3v3s and 2v2s on BGH (yes i kno its nub) to low money 1v1s. I watch alot of VODs for fun but never thought about actually playing like them. From the start I always wondered how these players are only good because of their good coachs and staff. Yes coachs are good but for strategy and other things. What made these plays good pondered me not only for starcraft but for eveything. Now i realize no matter who it is practice is the same for everyone and everyone must pay the same price to get the same level of success. Noone is born good at something, it must be forced. I started playing Starcraft iCCup and i was horrible (still am ;D) Lost my first 20 games even though i had around 160 apm. i simply didnt know how 1v1s worked. I didnt give up and remembered this rule and get those hours cranking. Now its been a month and i finished with D+ with a record of 27-45 and hoping to go for C- this season. Just keep fighting!
what the fuck are you terran.
Damnit im awful.
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=78677 <-- I guess you might have read this.
Anyway, for me.. All games need the following necessities in order for you to become successful.
natural talent.
commitment and motivation
and the open-mindedness to learn from others or from your own mistakes.
I think no. 3 is very important since only "right practice makes perfect" and not "practice makes perfect". So you gotta learn alot of different BO's for different match ups 
And btw, enjoy your stay here in teamliquid! you will really enjoy reading and posting stuff around here.
Cause as of the moment.. reading/posting in TL > SC for me
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This actually sounds pretty plausible given the fact that it took FlaSh 3 years to become a progamer from scratch (words from tasteless or artosis can't remember)
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On September 08 2009 04:03 EsX_Raptor wrote:
This actually sounds pretty plausible given the fact that it took FlaSh 3 years to become a progamer from scratch (words from tasteless or artosis can't remember)
i got this from a documentry. flash probally trained for like 6-8 hours a day i m guessing
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Practice also makes permanent, so as Licmyobelisk mentioned, make sure it is the right practice =)
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you have to play a lot. but not really as much as you think to get past D+. just have to play smart. if you just mass game and get 200 games this season on iccup you are far worse off than if you played 50 games and watched the replays. i mean really, REALLY watch the replays and find out why you win or lose. it's unbelievably insightful. i might be making an incorrect assumption here but i get the feeling newer players don't have the patience to watch ever game they lose but that's really what helps you get better faster.
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On September 08 2009 04:17 mahnini wrote:
you have to play a lot. but not really as much as you think to get past D+. just have to play smart. if you just mass game and get 200 games this season on iccup you are far worse off than if you played 50 games and watched the replays. i mean really, REALLY watch the replays and find out why you win or lose. it's unbelievably insightful. i might be making an incorrect assumption here but i get the feeling newer players don't have the patience to watch ever game they lose but that's really what helps you get better faster.
ya i kno what ur saying but i mentioned the training has to be rly proper, strategy is differnt from experience, and i watch vods for fun ;D most ppl never get good cuz they dont want to go through the starting stuggle lol
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On September 08 2009 04:17 mahnini wrote:
you have to play a lot. but not really as much as you think to get past D+. just have to play smart. if you just mass game and get 200 games this season on iccup you are far worse off than if you played 50 games and watched the replays. i mean really, REALLY watch the replays and find out why you win or lose. it's unbelievably insightful. i might be making an incorrect assumption here but i get the feeling newer players don't have the patience to watch ever game they lose but that's really what helps you get better faster.
Which has always been a big problem with me before, but now! I usually copy moves from white-ra since we can all cope up with his mechanics ^_^
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Baby was 13 when he turned pro, i how long has he been playing? Also i dont htink this is completely accurate, some people pick things up faster than others so that needs to be taken into account. I have played people in many different sports that say they have been playing for their whole life and then a random person beats them who has not been playing for that long.
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On September 08 2009 05:43 GreEny K wrote:
Baby was 13 when he turned pro, i how long has he been playing? Also i dont htink this is completely accurate, some people pick things up faster than others so that needs to be taken into account. I have played people in many different sports that say they have been playing for their whole life and then a random person beats them who has not been playing for that long.
I belive this is for the most part more accurate than OP. And also imho you don't need like 5-6 years to become progamer unless your doing it hard way (without any help from practice partners/coaches and you are lacking the talent for that exact sport/game) My guess is that 2-3 years would be enuf to reach progamer lvl (if your in korea ofc)..it just needs all listed in above posts and most important part + Show Spoiler +
Edit: Oh yeah, welcome to the TL and enjoy your stay r4j2ill. 
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On September 08 2009 05:43 GreEny K wrote:
Baby was 13 when he turned pro, i how long has he been playing? Also i dont htink this is completely accurate, some people pick things up faster than others so that needs to be taken into account. I have played people in many different sports that say they have been playing for their whole life and then a random person beats them who has not been playing for that long.
totally dude this is just an estimate scientist developed based on stuff but its accurate but it can vary person to person. it should be somewhere in hte same ballpark
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On September 08 2009 06:17 IceCube wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2009 05:43 GreEny K wrote:
Baby was 13 when he turned pro, i how long has he been playing? Also i dont htink this is completely accurate, some people pick things up faster than others so that needs to be taken into account. I have played people in many different sports that say they have been playing for their whole life and then a random person beats them who has not been playing for that long. I belive this is for the most part more accurate than OP. And also imho you don't need like 5-6 years to become progamer unless your doing it hard way (without any help from practice partners/coaches and you are lacking the talent for that exact sport/game) My guess is that 2-3 years would be enuf to reach progamer lvl (if your in korea ofc)..it just needs all listed in above posts and most important part + Show Spoiler +Edit: Oh yeah, welcome to the TL and enjoy your stay r4j2ill.
ty ;D <3
baby probally caught on the game quick and practiced around 10 hrs a day i bet idk about school lol
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what the fuck are you terran.
Damnit im awful.
ya :D
gotta love the rednecks hehe
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once you understand the basic in and outs of your bo, and have lost 30 times to all ins and have everything perfect, theres nothing left but to mass game as much as possible.
3 years of 8 hrs a day seems scarily accurate actually lol. Pretty interesting :p
but then with the modern copy cat style...I dunno, people can become gosu very fast these days.
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Quantity of practice is nothing without quality of practice. People who overemphasis practice tend to also fall victim to repeating their mistakes.
Sometimes just THINKING about the game is better than only ever doing. I think most people would define thinking as something outside of practice, so that's an important distinction. Visualize and understand what you need to do, don't just hope that if you do something enough times you'll get good at it. You'll only get good at doing it wrong.
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