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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-04 00:59:49
September 03 2009 13:53 GMT
#1
I havent made a melee map ever but i gave it a try after finding out my map editor had a MIRROR option >> Well, i came here to ask for information about my map because im not a good map critic and its wrong for me to judge my own map.
Heres how it looks
Sanctuary 1.1
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Version 1.0
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[image loading]


I have the Obs version and Non obs version uploaded there.
http://mapmaking.myfastforum.org/sutra619.php#619

What Race does this map favor?
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Poll: What race does this map favor?
(Vote): Zerg
(Vote): Protoss
(Vote): Terran



*****
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
MagisterMan
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden525 Posts
September 03 2009 13:59 GMT
#2
Can't see the pic
Nachos?
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
September 03 2009 13:59 GMT
#3
[image loading]
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-03 14:00:23
September 03 2009 14:00 GMT
#4
On September 03 2009 22:59 Patriot.dlk wrote:
My Map thats seeable


:D thanks
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
September 03 2009 14:00 GMT
#5
Favors Z or T. I dont think you can forge FE with that natural.
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
September 03 2009 14:01 GMT
#6
Siege tank can get nat easy. fix that high ground I reckon thats above nat.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
September 03 2009 14:16 GMT
#7
imba starting gas positioning
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
September 03 2009 14:18 GMT
#8
I think it's good for Z. I also think the 3rd gases at the top and bottom should be a little more accessible... mineral wall and buildings is really a pain.
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-03 14:20:03
September 03 2009 14:19 GMT
#9
On September 03 2009 23:16 konadora wrote:
imba starting gas positioning


eh?

On September 03 2009 23:18 Pokebunny wrote:
I think it's good for Z. I also think the 3rd gases at the top and bottom should be a little more accessible... mineral wall and buildings is really a pain.


You can pylon/depot jump.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-03 14:21:18
September 03 2009 14:20 GMT
#10
On September 03 2009 23:19 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2009 23:16 konadora wrote:
imba starting gas positioning


eh?

Show nested quote +
On September 03 2009 23:18 Pokebunny wrote:
I think it's good for Z. I also think the 3rd gases at the top and bottom should be a little more accessible... mineral wall and buildings is really a pain.


You can pylon/depot jump.

Gas mining efficiency (iirc)

top > left > right > bottom

oh

what about the zergs
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-03 14:22:50
September 03 2009 14:22 GMT
#11
Mine a mineral with 2 Drones and stop 1 drone from mining so it unstacks into the expo.

You can do this with all races
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
September 03 2009 14:24 GMT
#12
Doesnt seem possible for the top expo
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-03 14:30:39
September 03 2009 14:24 GMT
#13
it is.

no i take that back >>

i take that back it is possible.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
September 03 2009 14:25 GMT
#14
you need a mineral field sticking out like the bottom one to make it possible
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 03 2009 14:31 GMT
#15
Fix gas imba please. The problem with any position except left or top is that they're imbalanced for each specific race. Top and left have similiar harvest rates for each race, but down and right are really imbalanced depending on which race you have. It's just a mess.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
September 03 2009 14:32 GMT
#16
On September 03 2009 23:31 Shikyo wrote:
Fix gas imba please. The problem with any position except left or top is that they're imbalanced for each specific race. Top and left have similiar harvest rates for each race, but down and right are really imbalanced depending on which race you have. It's just a mess.

yeah this

which is why mapmakers try not to use horizontal mineral layouts of starting positions
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 03 2009 14:35 GMT
#17
garrr its my first melee map i dont know much~~~~
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
September 03 2009 14:41 GMT
#18
btw did you use 'units' or 'sprites' or 'unit sprites' for your 4 power generators?
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 03 2009 14:42 GMT
#19
Units. Absolutely no Sprites on my map.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
September 03 2009 14:42 GMT
#20
yeah and once you fix the gas positions it becomes non-mirror and things like mutalisk harass will be more or less effective depending on starting position.. bleh
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