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Power Rank

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1.
fOrGG_V_
(T) (stats)
+4 1 Does this look odd to you? It sure looks odd to me. Odd doesn't even begin to cover the unreal boost in play fOrGG showed in July. Results are all well and good (and with an MSL win, I'm sure no one will disagree that he's got 'em in spades), but the real matter here is that no one played better StarCraft in July than fOrGG. Breaking out of his mould in a big way, fOrGG showed the world he's capable of so much more than making thirty thousand units and throwing them away. His games were dynamic, explosive, and most importantly, they were fucking brilliant StarCraft. Gotta give credit where it's due, there isn't a player in the world that came anywhere near fOrGG in July.
2.
Jaedong
(Z) (stats)
0 1 Jaedong suffered a three game massacre at the hands of our new #1, but besides that, he looks just fine. His games against han in the OSL offline prelims were pretty good, definitely more a credit to han than a mark against Jaedong. Jaedong is still comfortably the best Zerg around. As sad as it makes me, I'm not sure how much longer he'll keep this up. Whether he performed up to what is expected of him during July, however, is a certainty.
3.
Flash
(T) (stats)
0 1 Another victim of forGG, Flash looked plain vulnerable during his brief MSL Semifinal. Using a 14cc build order in every game was definitely an oversight on his part, but I won't pretend it means he's down and out, never to return. He got outplayed pretty hard, but you'll notice that the man who struck him down is a few spots above, as it should be. Flash isn't done yet, and with a berth in the round of 16 in both leagues, we'll soon get a clear indicator of where Flash is heading in the near future.
4.
JulyZerg
(Z) (stats)
+4 4 First, let me just put this out there: I LOVE JULY. I've been a fan of July for about five years now, and the fact that he overcame a grueling slump to join Nada in the Golden Mouse club says great things about his ability as a player, and his will to win. July is below the three players above him simply because his competition during OSL was relatively soft. I'd expect most Zergs to beat down Rock and Backho.
5.
Luxury[GsP]
(Z) (stats)
+2 2 Luxury's had a slow month. He's only played two games, and he split them. His spot this month is more a result of other players moving around. Luxury is still "the other best Zerg", the man who fills the void when Jaedong is having a bad week. He's been great for months, and I don't see any change from the two games he played in July. Is Luxury destined to be middleground for the rest of his career?

Middleground or not, Luxury is a damn good player. It wouldn't be right to just drop him for only playing two games in a month, because he's been playing his ass off for quite a while now.
6.
Leta
(T) (stats)
- 1 This little guy was terrible six months ago. We all remember his single shining moment, a ridiculous game against Stork from last ProLeague season.

Okay, picture that game. Now picture that happening six times in six different games during July. Impressed yet? You should be. Leta is playing some of the finest StarCraft I've seen lately. If looking at his string of victories isn't enough for you, watch the games. He's seamless and powerful, smart and confident. Leta has become a very good player, and unlike his most often comparison, Ruby, he's managed to find the groove and perform consistently. The birth of a Terran superstar, or a flash in the pan? I honestly have no idea, but Leta's games during the month have been something to behold. Good for you, kid.
7.
BeSt[HyO]
(P) (stats)
-3 2 Seems like the beast has been bitten back. After being completely dismantled by July, Best was the latest victim of the new dynamo above him. It can certainly be expected that a relatively inexperienced player such as Best would take the loss he suffered against July to heart, and the effects seem to have been drastic. This spot is something of a compromise, because while Best played horribly during and after his OSL finals loss, the games he played leading up to that incident were still the best Protoss I've seen in a loooooooong time. Best has certainly got the talent to bounce back from his misery, and that's why he preserves this particular spot. Get your shit together, come back and see me.
8.
Kal
(P) (stats)
-2 3 Kal's had a rough month, but he's still a damn good player. His losses have been numerous, but nothing significant has changed. In every situation, Kal has lost through his opponent playing well, rather than he himself playing poorly. And in most cases, they were damn fine games.

Kal is something of an oddity. He's the last person I'd have expected to go toe-to-toe with fOrGG. Even old, shitty fOrGG, much less new-and-improved badass motherfucker fOrGG. But he did, and their series contained some really cool games. Kal isn't going anywhere, he'll still be around, he'll still win a ton of games. If he doesn't do it quick, however, he's off next month. There are too many good players for one good player to get away with losing for very long.
9.
Iris[gm]
(T) (stats)
- 2 These next two spots will cause some bitching in the comments, I'm sure. I don't give a shit. If you've seen Iris's most recent games, you know he's playing like a savage again. I got chills watching him dismantle the chumps in his OSL prelim group. It spoke of one thing: The goddamn Berserker is BACK. Don't prove me wrong, Iris. The Rank is yours to climb.
10.
Midas
(T) (stats)
- 2 Another fallen hero, Midas has been playing very well as of late. A recent interview showed him positively bursting with confidence, assuring his fans that the slump is over. Well, for now, his game has backed up the trash his mouth been spewin'. Midas looks like a great player once again, and something about the world just feels a little more... right. Midas gets the same warning Iris does. Don't taunt me with strong play if you aren't going to keep the ball rolling.


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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 07 2008 05:41 GMT
#1
Close but No Cigar:

BackHo: BackHo is fucking BAD. The only existing argument for BackHo getting a Power Rank spot seems to be "how he gets results doesn't matter, simply that he gets results". That's a nice thought, and maybe if BackHo could manage to win more games than he loses I'd be more willing to look past his glaring lack of skill.

Sea: Sea's in the OSL Round of 16, crushing Pure to get there. Pretty good! He's got a creampuff Survivor group, too. However, history has a nasty tendency to repeat itself. Let's all pray for a semifinal.

Much: Much isn't playing well. I'm sure someone will come in here and argue that he beat down FirebatHero, the guy who loses to every Protoss ever, and somehow that's justification for him to be named one of the ten best players of the day. Not even close.

More to come as things are addressed in the thread!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42967 Posts
August 07 2008 05:48 GMT
#2
Happy with the first 8, although I'd probably shuffle Kal and BeSt up a tad and Luxury and Leta down a little. But there's not enough between the four of them for it to really make a difference. As for the final 2, we've talked that one to death already so I don't see the need to bring that argument here. But if both of them fail to shine I'll be sure to remind you of your confidence in them.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
August 07 2008 05:48 GMT
#3
Forgg!!!!

Flash vs backho on wuthering heights was like a tvp textbook on its own imba flash
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
August 07 2008 05:49 GMT
#4
Thanks again for doing this Steve. Yes you're gonna get a lot of bitching for 9-10, but your reasoning is fine, and I don't have anything to refute, really.

I think there's enough reason to bump Kal off the list entirely, but I'm not about to go back and figure out exactly which dates this PR covers.

Cheers!
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anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-07 05:51:38
August 07 2008 05:50 GMT
#5
i think sea should've been #1 again

EDIT: *ANGSTY POST ABOUT WHY FLASH SHOULD BE ABOVE JAEDONG!~!!111*
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
August 07 2008 05:56 GMT
#6
nice, i like the power rank just fine. I think iris does deserve that spot, as he's consistent and sometimes has monstrous play
Teamliquidian townie
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
August 07 2008 06:01 GMT
#7
I agree with the powerrank fully
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
August 07 2008 06:04 GMT
#8
I love you fakesteve for bringing midas back ^^
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
August 07 2008 06:05 GMT
#9
yay new pr

I'll definately have to check out Iris' games now that you mentioned them. I would love for Iris to climb the PR and help win me fantasy MSL
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42967 Posts
August 07 2008 06:05 GMT
#10
Actually you're right about Kal. But I'd probably go Leta, BeSt, Luxury. It's a tricky one. We know BeSt is good and Luxury is good and we know that BeSt just beat Luxury in a close series. But equally Leta has shown far better results than either recently. It just seems like #5 is a bit high for luxury and #7 is a bit low for BeSt but there's so little in it that it's tricky.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
August 07 2008 06:08 GMT
#11
huh, I didn't think iris was doing so well, although I haven't seen his recent games.

midas is 1-2 this month, I don't think he deserves the rank (and he wasn't chosen to be SKT's ace in the playoffs). I don't know who does, however.
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-07 06:15:29
August 07 2008 06:10 GMT
#12
A fine rank , but why Midas in top 10 i don't recall him playing at all last month or he just lost his last PL games and fail to qualify for 1 of the leagues as i can remember ??? I would rather have Mind just by the fact that he stomped JangBI in WCG and he is seeded and yet to qualify for the leagues .
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
August 07 2008 06:10 GMT
#13
Midas has been doing well all season.
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
ShinyGerbil
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada519 Posts
August 07 2008 06:10 GMT
#14
i completely agree with the first 7, but i think 8-10 should go as such:

8 - Jangbi: still the best PvT around and after tieing (and then beating flash) he's showing no sign of remorse
9 - Canata: the king of TvT is certainly still around. some brilliant games at the end of this proleague season should land him this spot.
10 - EffOrt: an up and coming zerg that has been winning some nice games against Kal, FBH, etc.
[s]savior[/s] jaedong fighting! // member of LighT eSports
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
August 07 2008 06:18 GMT
#15
OK HANG ON THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE

steve you love my fav player julyzerg, you share a birthday with me, you have an iron maiden pic in your profile which is my fav band and best of all time period. OK im paying for you to get the surgery we are getting married.

oh nice power rank btw
OMG you nasty gurl
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
August 07 2008 06:24 GMT
#16
On August 07 2008 15:10 ShinyGerbil wrote:
i completely agree with the first 7, but i think 8-10 should go as such:

8 - Jangbi: still the best PvT around and after tieing (and then beating flash) he's showing no sign of remorse
9 - Canata: the king of TvT is certainly still around. some brilliant games at the end of this proleague season should land him this spot.
10 - EffOrt: an up and coming zerg that has been winning some nice games against Kal, FBH, etc.


JangBI got himself raped by Mind in WCG not the best starcraft i've seen , but shows that Mind will be comeing in here pretty soon i would argue next month . Canata sucks all together losing to Justin in OSL offlines .

I would like to see more of Effort he is a promising zerg beating Kal in ZvP in Bo3 is not an easy task .
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-07 06:34:03
August 07 2008 06:24 GMT
#17
Its scary how much I...disagree with everything on this power rank. The only placements I can remotely agree with are Kal, Jaedong, and FORGG. Flash is playing too bad for 3, Julys zvt is too untested for 4, Leta has done nothing but proleague, and despite the good games, I doubt he deserves six, best took a massive drop despite his only failings to be a in a pvz that we all knew he was weak in, against july who we all knew was strong in that particular match up to an absurd degree, and Midas and Iris, while playing good- more midas than Iris- I'm not entirely convinced are quite the right choices. Though, the very bottom of the power rank hardly concerns me, so I suppose I'll let them be, but in general just...wow, I cant believe how disagree able this power rank is. It's so outrageous, I'm not even going to debate it any further.

Edit: You know what, under further consideration [its 2:30 and yes I am lazy enough not to rewrite my entire post, but just leave it there] I don't disagree with everything. There are a lot of people teetering on worthiness of the bottom of the power rank, and I suppose Iris/Midas are just as justifiable as anyone else who has had a good run. Likewise, despite the fact that I think Flash should be lower-ordinarily, there is simply no one to fill in the gap, so he stays due to the fact that we have had a slow month, and nothing can prove otherwise definitively. Leta's games have been amazing though, but I still disagree with such a high placement, and Best's being so low [despite my hatred of him] I also disagree with the lux/july order [despite my lover of July], but hey. So no, not that bad of a power rank, wacky but...well we have had a slow inconsistent month, what can be said.
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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
August 07 2008 06:28 GMT
#18
bold choices, indeed.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Chameleon
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States604 Posts
August 07 2008 06:31 GMT
#19
good job on what i suspect was a pretty tough month to evaluate
TL's #1 Horang2 fan
Raiju
Profile Joined December 2007
Australia235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-07 06:38:19
August 07 2008 06:35 GMT
#20
On August 07 2008 15:24 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Its scary how much I...disagree with everything on this power rank.


Give us your power rank then douchebag.

Edit: Your are no longer a douchebag since ur edit
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