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TLnet Poll - How do you feel about the proposed Warp Prism…

How do you feel about the proposed Warp Prism nerf (warp-in time increase)? :

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TL.net Bot TL.net14 Posts July 02 2019 03:58 GMT #1

raptor11234 13 Posts July 02 2019 07:11 GMT #2 This nerf doesn't address the actual problem of the Warp Prism..... Yes, it's a nerf and will make ONE usage of it more difficult, but the actual OPness of the Prism comes with it's ranged pickup, not it's warpin ability....

jjmmtt Australia914 Posts July 02 2019 08:50 GMT #3 Question: does warp in have anything to do with Immortals?

GreasedUpDeafGuy United States298 Posts July 02 2019 20:24 GMT #4 Literally all they need to do is nerf the pickup range by 2 and its fine. Instead lets work on something that has nothing to do with the issue

Riner1212 United States216 Posts July 02 2019 20:43 GMT #5 I will take any nerf to protoss!

contv 35 Posts July 03 2019 00:51 GMT #6 I for one am glad that Blizzard decided to address a more fundamental problem with Protoss warp ins negating defender's advantage, rather than only nerfing pick up range. A much more substantive change that will affect PvZ and PvT at all levels, and not just only the highest level, since few Protosses outside of GM can actually abuse pick up range to the extent we are seeing in GSL.

NinjaNight 321 Posts July 03 2019 02:33 GMT #7 Warp prism will be crap with such a change. As has been said the pickup range is what is imbalanced about it.

Alejandrisha United States5708 Posts July 03 2019 08:56 GMT #8 what exactly do they see this fixing? 2 base timings? the harass? i think this is the wrong way to approach the 'problem'

iMrising United States1079 Posts July 04 2019 00:33 GMT #9 Honestly I agree with the design of increasing defenders advantage with the change. That being said, I don’t know how any Protoss is going to compete since this is a rather large nerf.

Popparockz United States37 Posts July 04 2019 19:44 GMT #10 They are trying to not touch warp prism micro, because it is the coolest micro protoss has I'm guessing. Could be an ok change, but it needs a lot of testing.

sugarmuffinpuff Canada20 Posts July 05 2019 01:33 GMT #11 It's an interesting way to go about things for sure. Seems like there are 2 schools of thought on immortal pushes and what to nerf about them: 1) Long warp prism pick-up range means immortals live way too long. High firepower + extreme survivability makes immortals too powerful. Let's nerf warp prism pick-up range so immortals aren't actually immortal. 2) Warp prism pick-up range is strong, but being able to quickly reinforce an attack means you always have a group of gateway units to drop the immortals behind. These factors combined are what make immortal pushes so strong. Warp prism micro is fun to watch, so let's nerf the warp-in time instead. Blizzard is clearly trying the second approach.

Ej_ 45318 Posts July 05 2019 08:11 GMT #12 Over 50% TL users in favor of removing Protoss from SC2

blind429 26 Posts July 05 2019 08:22 GMT #13 On July 03 2019 17:56 Alejandrisha wrote: what exactly do they see this fixing? 2 base timings? the harass? i think this is the wrong way to approach the 'problem' It fixes all the great games that are ruined by effortless zealot warp ins in the main.

Alejandrisha United States5708 Posts July 05 2019 21:31 GMT #14 On July 05 2019 17:22 blind429 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 17:56 Alejandrisha wrote: what exactly do they see this fixing? 2 base timings? the harass? i think this is the wrong way to approach the 'problem' It fixes all the great games that are ruined by effortless zealot warp ins in the main. but how does a change in the warp in-speed change what a neglected zealot warp-in can do in the main when both players are about maxed? when these zealot warp-ins do damage it is because the prism is uncontested, not because it is slightly contested but the warp-in speed makes it impossible to defend. and if wp harass is discouraged then the game is less dynamic and we're back to ball on ball violence

Alejandrisha United States5708 Posts July 05 2019 21:33 GMT #15 On July 05 2019 17:11 Ej_ wrote: Over 50% TL users in favor of removing Protoss from SC2 right?

Mahanaim Korea (South)971 Posts July 06 2019 00:06 GMT #16 Edit: I guess something is better than nothing.

Pursuit_ United States1266 Posts July 07 2019 02:33 GMT #17 This will really hurt PvZ while having not much effect PvT imo, kinda a weird direction to go. Not a fan.

KalWarkov Germany3841 Posts July 07 2019 20:54 GMT #18 i approve of it. i disapprove of the fact that there is no buff to make up for it.

Alejandrisha United States5708 Posts July 10 2019 16:53 GMT #19 On July 08 2019 05:54 KalWarkov wrote: i approve of it. i disapprove of the fact that there is no buff to make up for it. why do you approve of it? i still have not heard any solid argument for or against. what is being addressed?

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