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On December 02 2022 22:34 plasmidghost wrote:
I honestly think South Korea wins here. I don't expect Portugal to let up, though, because if Ghana wins and they lose, I'm 99% sure they face Brazil first round and go home, but I think Son will deliver
Uruguay vs Ghana is going to be incredible. I expect it to be intense and violent. It'll be the most hype match of this WC group stage
id love for you to be right, but son has been the worst performer in the team the past 2 rounds. its quite obvious that hes having problems with his vision and its affecting his performance.
kim min jae has just been ruled out of the starting line up too, which is an even bigger disaster than not having son.
at this point im just cheering for another suarez handball. GO SUAREZ GO
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Ronaldo will be licking his lips on what's probably the last and best chance to score another hattrick and break more WC records.
Group H will be wild!
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Looks like Fernando Santos is indeed rotating. Exciting. These players will have the motivation to do their best here. On paper they're more than good enough to defeat SK.
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On December 02 2022 21:58 RKC wrote:
Drone sums it up best. Football is a game of skill but also luck. I'm a big supporter of Asian teams. But Japan beating both Spain and Germany in the same tournament is really a black swan event. It's too simplistic to say that the results says everything about team performance. Japan beat Spain despite having less than 20% possession. Anyone who thinks playing with only 20% possession is the winning formula against Spain and that Japan would've won more games in a series of 10 matches against Spain is seriously deluded.
In my view, teams like Poland and Croatia played far worse than Germany against similar level opposition teams in their groups. And yet, both teams were lucky enough to sneak through the group stage because their opponents were bad in finishing chances. I also don't think Japan played any far better than Tunisia, Iran or Saudi which all didn't qualify.
Football is a game of slim margins of error. Think of Roberto Baggio's horrible penalty kick miss in WC 1994 final. Or Zidane's sending-off in WC 2006 final. Top players and teams can make mistakes at any point of the tournament. An early elimination doesn't necessarily mean a team played horribly, and vice versa.
That said, I think we can all agree that Denmark and Belgium were the clear-cut underperformers this WC.
The one underdog team which has really played well and deserved their results is Morocco. It's odd that people are only raving about Japan and not Morocco.
No one in their right mind would have thought it possible that Japan beats both Germany and Spain. But did I think it likely tjat they could beat one of them? Yes I did and I posted it too.
And this is what I mean about European arrogance. Japan is one of the best teams(top20-30) in the world and better than many European teams. Yet if Hungary would have kicked out Germany there would be much less surprise than Japan has gotten. Obviously Germany and Spain are still better in terms of players and quality but Japan would beat Spain more than once if they met 10 times. And you dont need possession to beat teams. Spain rarely threatened the Japanese goal the whole game with their 80% uselessness
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well i had hope for a whole 4 minutes. gg no re
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On December 02 2022 23:52 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2022 21:58 RKC wrote:
Drone sums it up best. Football is a game of skill but also luck. I'm a big supporter of Asian teams. But Japan beating both Spain and Germany in the same tournament is really a black swan event. It's too simplistic to say that the results says everything about team performance. Japan beat Spain despite having less than 20% possession. Anyone who thinks playing with only 20% possession is the winning formula against Spain and that Japan would've won more games in a series of 10 matches against Spain is seriously deluded.
In my view, teams like Poland and Croatia played far worse than Germany against similar level opposition teams in their groups. And yet, both teams were lucky enough to sneak through the group stage because their opponents were bad in finishing chances. I also don't think Japan played any far better than Tunisia, Iran or Saudi which all didn't qualify.
Football is a game of slim margins of error. Think of Roberto Baggio's horrible penalty kick miss in WC 1994 final. Or Zidane's sending-off in WC 2006 final. Top players and teams can make mistakes at any point of the tournament. An early elimination doesn't necessarily mean a team played horribly, and vice versa.
That said, I think we can all agree that Denmark and Belgium were the clear-cut underperformers this WC.
The one underdog team which has really played well and deserved their results is Morocco. It's odd that people are only raving about Japan and not Morocco. No one in their right mind would have thought it possible that Japan beats both Germany and Spain. But did I think it likely tjat they could beat one of them? Yes I did and I posted it too. And this is what I mean about European arrogance. Japan is one of the best teams(top20-30) in the world and better than many European teams. Yet if Hungary would have kicked out Germany there would be much less surprise than Japan has gotten. Obviously Germany and Spain are still better in terms of players and quality but Japan would beat Spain more than once if they met 10 times. And you dont need possession to beat teams. Spain rarely threatened the Japanese goal the whole game with their 80% uselessness
I think the surprise would be very similar if Hungary did this. You are imagining things.
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On December 02 2022 23:52 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2022 21:58 RKC wrote:
Drone sums it up best. Football is a game of skill but also luck. I'm a big supporter of Asian teams. But Japan beating both Spain and Germany in the same tournament is really a black swan event. It's too simplistic to say that the results says everything about team performance. Japan beat Spain despite having less than 20% possession. Anyone who thinks playing with only 20% possession is the winning formula against Spain and that Japan would've won more games in a series of 10 matches against Spain is seriously deluded.
In my view, teams like Poland and Croatia played far worse than Germany against similar level opposition teams in their groups. And yet, both teams were lucky enough to sneak through the group stage because their opponents were bad in finishing chances. I also don't think Japan played any far better than Tunisia, Iran or Saudi which all didn't qualify.
Football is a game of slim margins of error. Think of Roberto Baggio's horrible penalty kick miss in WC 1994 final. Or Zidane's sending-off in WC 2006 final. Top players and teams can make mistakes at any point of the tournament. An early elimination doesn't necessarily mean a team played horribly, and vice versa.
That said, I think we can all agree that Denmark and Belgium were the clear-cut underperformers this WC.
The one underdog team which has really played well and deserved their results is Morocco. It's odd that people are only raving about Japan and not Morocco. No one in their right mind would have thought it possible that Japan beats both Germany and Spain. But did I think it likely tjat they could beat one of them? Yes I did and I posted it too. And this is what I mean about European arrogance. Japan is one of the best teams(top20-30) in the world and better than many European teams. Yet if Hungary would have kicked out Germany there would be much less surprise than Japan has gotten. Obviously Germany and Spain are still better in terms of players and quality but Japan would beat Spain more than once if they met 10 times. And you dont need possession to beat teams. Spain rarely threatened the Japanese goal the whole game with their 80% uselessness
I'm sorry, so not expecting a top 20-30 team to beat not one but 2 top 10 teams is arrogance?
Spain and Germany were the clear favourites and expected to win against Japan. Pointing that out isn't arrogance, it's a statement of fact. Pointing out that Japan winning that group is surprising/an upset isn't arrogance.
I'm not sure where the arrogance part is coming from.
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On December 02 2022 22:48 evilfatsh1t wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2022 22:34 plasmidghost wrote:
I honestly think South Korea wins here. I don't expect Portugal to let up, though, because if Ghana wins and they lose, I'm 99% sure they face Brazil first round and go home, but I think Son will deliver
Uruguay vs Ghana is going to be incredible. I expect it to be intense and violent. It'll be the most hype match of this WC group stage id love for you to be right, but son has been the worst performer in the team the past 2 rounds. its quite obvious that hes having problems with his vision and its affecting his performance. kim min jae has just been ruled out of the starting line up too, which is an even bigger disaster than not having son. at this point im just cheering for another suarez handball. GO SUAREZ GO
Yeah I thought he would deliver in a do or die situation, but he's a Spurs player
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Disgraceful from Darwin Nunez. Ghana's players were already guarding the spot, must have been tipped off.
History repeats!
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Group H already delivering on the wildness lol
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And then Uruguay go to the other end and score, you couldn't make this up
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South Korea still within striking distance. If Uruguay finishes 2-0 or 3-0 and SK manages to win 2-1, SK is through (I think?).
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If Uruguay wins by 3 goals, their GD becomes +1, so SK must also win by 2 to make their GD +1.
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HWANG WITH THE CLUTCH RETURN FROM INJURY. YEAHHHH BOYSSSSSSS
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Korea scores, but whoever the coach is in the crowd looks pissed.
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Son finding the perfect threading pass after that exhausting run and with 3 defenders trying to block it was class
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Daehan Minguk!!!
AHAHAHHAHAAHAHAH
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Holy shit Ghana's goalkeeper just kept South Korea in the running
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