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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36921 Posts
On February 14 2019 09:18 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2019 00:03 travis wrote: Ah, so now people are more bannable if they have a stance that someone (I guess aquanim or m4ini) defines as a "conspiracy theory". That is a very stupid stance. Oh, no. You have to have a stance that the moderators define as a (particularly objectionable?) conspiracy theory. My opinion's got nothing to do with it. Holy shit... I wrote that post over a year ago... How the hell did you find it? Oo;;
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On February 15 2019 08:13 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2019 09:18 Aquanim wrote:On February 14 2019 00:03 travis wrote: Ah, so now people are more bannable if they have a stance that someone (I guess aquanim or m4ini) defines as a "conspiracy theory". That is a very stupid stance. Oh, no. You have to have a stance that the moderators define as a (particularly objectionable?) conspiracy theory. My opinion's got nothing to do with it. Holy shit... I wrote that post over a year ago... How the hell did you find it? Oo;; These people take this shit very seriously.
The USPOL community on TL is like a community within a community. Kind of like a psych ward in the outskirts of a suburban city.
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On February 15 2019 08:42 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2019 08:13 Seeker wrote:On February 14 2019 09:18 Aquanim wrote:On February 14 2019 00:03 travis wrote: Ah, so now people are more bannable if they have a stance that someone (I guess aquanim or m4ini) defines as a "conspiracy theory". That is a very stupid stance. Oh, no. You have to have a stance that the moderators define as a (particularly objectionable?) conspiracy theory. My opinion's got nothing to do with it. Holy shit... I wrote that post over a year ago... How the hell did you find it? Oo;; These people take this shit very seriously. The USPOL community on TL is like a community within a community. Kind of like a psych ward in the outskirts of a suburban city. Was this really called for?
I did a site search earlier for GreenHorizons posts containing keywords likely to have come up in the relevant conversation, so that I could provide a link to it as a courtesy. Seeker's post happened to be the end of that conversation.
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Yeah, like search is a thing that isn’t that hard to use. Or maybe it is for some people and think the folks in US Pol thread are obsessed due to that. Or that we are magic....
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On February 15 2019 08:53 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2019 08:42 Jealous wrote:On February 15 2019 08:13 Seeker wrote:On February 14 2019 09:18 Aquanim wrote:On February 14 2019 00:03 travis wrote: Ah, so now people are more bannable if they have a stance that someone (I guess aquanim or m4ini) defines as a "conspiracy theory". That is a very stupid stance. Oh, no. You have to have a stance that the moderators define as a (particularly objectionable?) conspiracy theory. My opinion's got nothing to do with it. Holy shit... I wrote that post over a year ago... How the hell did you find it? Oo;; These people take this shit very seriously. The USPOL community on TL is like a community within a community. Kind of like a psych ward in the outskirts of a suburban city. Was this really called for? I did a site search earlier for GreenHorizons posts containing keywords likely to have come up in the relevant conversation, so that I could provide a link to it as a courtesy. Seeker's post happened to be the end of that conversation.
the thread is sort of the crazy quarantine though.
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On February 15 2019 09:37 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2019 08:53 Aquanim wrote:On February 15 2019 08:42 Jealous wrote:On February 15 2019 08:13 Seeker wrote:On February 14 2019 09:18 Aquanim wrote:On February 14 2019 00:03 travis wrote: Ah, so now people are more bannable if they have a stance that someone (I guess aquanim or m4ini) defines as a "conspiracy theory". That is a very stupid stance. Oh, no. You have to have a stance that the moderators define as a (particularly objectionable?) conspiracy theory. My opinion's got nothing to do with it. Holy shit... I wrote that post over a year ago... How the hell did you find it? Oo;; These people take this shit very seriously. The USPOL community on TL is like a community within a community. Kind of like a psych ward in the outskirts of a suburban city. Was this really called for? I did a site search earlier for GreenHorizons posts containing keywords likely to have come up in the relevant conversation, so that I could provide a link to it as a courtesy. Seeker's post happened to be the end of that conversation. the thread is sort of the crazy quarantine though. I object to that!
Oooh look, butterflies!
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dudes trying to justify GHs' ban based on passed deeds look mean, petty and vindictive. compare the past with the present and if there's a change, you don't pull out the 'but, but ... the original sin!' mantra and how he needs to burn for it. i know that some of you arguing it, were in favor of rehabilitating fucking Breivik and that dude screwed up a whole country, for good; so yea, petty, mean and vindictive.
the other thing is that GH figured out(albeit unconsciously imo) how to argue/talk to an illiberal, he figured out how to extract meaning out of them. step 1, trigger them; step 2, observe what triggered in them then trigger them some more. that is how you get meaning out of an illiberal else you get shit like + Show Spoiler +Show nested quote +On February 14 2019 11:18 Plansix wrote: I can understand that you sympathize with GHs viewpoint and feel his style of discussion had merits. But people were open with GH that they found this style of discussion frustrating and disliked it. People, including myself, voiced this opinion to him several times and various ways. And his response was always that he wanted it that way. He wanted people to dislike the discussion and to feel frustrated. And because of that, people got fed up with him and complete lack of caring about the people he was discussing things with.
And this all leaves aside his obsessive behavior, aggressive PMs, and constantly trying to rekindle old arguments. Like, you know, harassing me for an entire month about spreading propaganda because I remembered an article wrong. And me repeatedly telling him that I made a mistake and him not giving a shit to the point where the moderators had to tell him to drop it.
So I understand that you liked GH's contribution to the site and his style of discussion. But I don't think you got to experience his true contribution to the site as some of us did. which is a whole lot of nothing about nothing and just wastes lives.
about the: 'but i felt on the defensive the whole time and it made me uncomfortable and was unwarrantedly offending etcetcetc. come the fuck on, first off that's not a GH special but it's common with most/all 'conservative' posters and secondly, it's not personal; it can't be personal because it's about the argument.
when two liberals argue, their goal is to walk off as friends, to be friendly afterwards(now i know you, you know me, lets live and let live, fuck the argument and its solutions). when two conservatives argue, their goal is to find a solution for the argument in question and that goes up to and includes hurting each others(physically or psychologically) to see who'll win.
(note: i used liberal and conservative as placeholder for opposite states of being, biologically driven)
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What the fuck did I just read?
Edit: the creating of “illiberal” as a word is illuminating in so many unintended ways.
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He didn't create the term, it's already popular in the context of European politics.
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On February 16 2019 02:18 Sent. wrote: He didn't create the term, it's already popular in the context of European politics.
First time I've heard of it
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It reeks of the desperation and ignorance of someone who knows their argument is shit and wants to make up for it with insults.
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This is the bit where we have to ask someone to clarify the meaning of "illiberal" in this context. Because to me, illiberal means authoritarian, and/or autocracy. Plansix is far away from that.
So what does "illiberal" mean in this case, as it certainly isn't a usage I am familiar with... ...a bit like calling everything you disagree with as "neolib", or "the left" or if you are the Kremlin, "fascist". The word exists, the usage does not.
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Also can I just point out that if your arguing technique has "Trigger people" as step one, you don't really need to question why people don't like having you around.
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I also don't understand why xM(Z chose to use the word in this context (unless he's calling Plansix illiberal in the same way you can call radical progressives "regressives"). I'm just saying the term is not his invention.
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Who knows.
Perhaps xM(Z turned himself an object of his own parody, a biologically driven argument; that he triggered himself into extracting meaning, revealing that he is a whole lot of nothing about nothing and just wastes lives.
Truly a living performance artist. He lives his own art.
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I assumed it was a play on illiterate. But that is just me.
EDit: I just noticed the line “opposite states, biologically driven” and now I’m thinking our boy functions on a frequency than the rest of us.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/illiberal Synonyms & Antonyms for illiberal
Synonyms insular, Lilliputian, little, narrow, narrow-minded, parochial, petty, picayune, provincial, sectarian, small, small-minded
Antonyms broad-minded, catholic, cosmopolitan, liberal, open, open-minded, receptive, tolerant
liberal is something you do not something you call yourself.
the rest is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observation Observation is the active acquisition of information from a primary source. In living beings, observation employs the senses. In science, observation can also involve the recording of data via the use of scientific instruments. The term may also refer to any data collected during the scientific activity. Observations can be qualitative, that is, only the absence or presence of a property is noted, or quantitative if a numerical value is attached to the observed phenomenon by counting or measuring. observe how people argue(stylistic) then realize it's not something one is taught. one can be taught to restrain it or to refrain from it but the belligerent drive is always there. it's true, honest, raw, unadulterated by culture.
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Well, the important thing is you found a way to feel good about yourself. Glad you got there.
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On February 16 2019 23:04 Plansix wrote: Well, the important thing is you found a way to feel good about yourself. Glad you got there. To be honest, that sounds like you are talking to yourself. But never stop being a dick.
Happy birthday.
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