• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:44
CET 15:44
KST 23:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners10Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!33$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship6[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1386 users

So why was GH banned?

Forum Index > Website Feedback
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 10 11 12 Next All
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 14:12:08
February 07 2019 13:54 GMT
#1
Didn't there use to be an actual ban report that could be read somewhere? I am wondering what the actual reason for perm banning a ~10 year veteran is here.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 14:11:44
February 07 2019 14:02 GMT
#2
Sounded like something to do with long-running disagreements with the moderation staff. I'd also hope to hear something more concrete than that, though, if there's a willingness to share, because it does seem like there's more of a story to it than that given the other steps taken (including "no more political blogs" which is a much more significant step than just removing GH).

ABL post, for context, was:

GreenHorizons was just banned by Seeker.

That account was created on 2011-04-16 10:56:04 and had 15287 posts.

Reason: GH, I am very sorry that things have come to this. However, after a long and lengthy discussion, the mod team has come to the conclusion that it is time for you and TL to part ways. Since you've been a member of TL for almost 8 years, this was definitely not an easy decision. However, our most recent conversation, and the string of events that have occurred over the past couple of months has proven to us that you will never change how you carry yourself on this site.

Your attitude and disrespect toward the TL moderation team and our rules/guidelines is something that we can no longer tolerate. Your behavior toward other TL members that you dislike has become far too much of a nuisance. We have tried many times to reason with you and to help you out, but you keep going back to your old ways. We are sick and tired of this endless cycle and we feel that you have used up all your chances with us.

Therefore, we bid you farewell. Good luck elsewhere.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 14:13:02
February 07 2019 14:12 GMT
#3
I know that he and the mod team had a lot of discussions via PM. But he has always responded poorly any sort of moderation. He necroed a blog from 2009 about racism and got 2 day ban. After than ban ended, he did the exact same thing to another thread that got locked. And then came to feedback asking why it got locked. It just seemed like he was very invested in picking fights if he we ever told he couldn’t do exactly what he wanted.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18110 Posts
February 07 2019 14:13 GMT
#4
Idle speculation: mods closed the blog due to the change in policy, GH sent some not-nice messages to mods, and he got banned.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 07 2019 14:16 GMT
#5
On February 07 2019 23:13 Acrofales wrote:
Idle speculation: mods closed the blog due to the change in policy, GH sent some not-nice messages to mods, and he got banned.

Made me look at the timestamps.

Seems like both events happened in tandem. The ban and the blog rule seems like it was a package deal.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-08 12:56:23
February 07 2019 14:18 GMT
#6
edit: -
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 07 2019 14:20 GMT
#7
Closed threads.

I would still like to hear more from the mods if there's more to be shared. If not, I understand, but it would be appreciated.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
February 07 2019 15:36 GMT
#8
Seeker's explanation seemed reasonable enough. GH has been very open about the fact that he conducts himself the way he does because he feels like he needs to. He sees it as a good thing and has made it clear he had no intention of ever changing.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8151 Posts
February 07 2019 15:42 GMT
#9
On February 07 2019 23:18 travis wrote:
Hmmm

Surprisingly I think I will just give the mods the benefit of the doubt and let this go without being annoying about it. The website has become a little more "PC" over time but when I think about it I don't have many examples of mods being abusive of their powers.

It is too bad, though

also where is that ban list hidden at???


There's no point in linking to the thread, as it changes title (and therefore link) every time someone new gets banned. But if you search for "Automated ban list" in the search field, it will be the top result
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
February 07 2019 16:13 GMT
#10
All I knew of him was that he once complained that there weren't enough black mods?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 07 2019 16:15 GMT
#11
ha ha when did he do that, LOL

not trying to mock him because I like him but there can't even be that many black posters on TL
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 16:33:45
February 07 2019 16:32 GMT
#12
On February 08 2019 01:15 travis wrote:
ha ha when did he do that, LOL

not trying to mock him because I like him but there can't even be that many black posters on TL

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tl-community/275302-ask-tl-staff-anything?page=632#12630 (just start reading from there)

i guess he wasn't really complaining, but clearly felt he would prefer to talk to a black mod
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
February 07 2019 16:54 GMT
#13
On February 08 2019 01:32 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2019 01:15 travis wrote:
ha ha when did he do that, LOL

not trying to mock him because I like him but there can't even be that many black posters on TL

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tl-community/275302-ask-tl-staff-anything?page=632#12630 (just start reading from there)

i guess he wasn't really complaining, but clearly felt he would prefer to talk to a black mod


That is amazing LOL
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5296 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 17:25:28
February 07 2019 17:24 GMT
#14
aaaaaannd the white man wins again+ Show Spoiler +
come on, it's fucking funny
.

we exchanged some PMs a while ago but he seemed to be fishing for something(attaching definitions/characterizations to ... things so i stopped replying, but this ... woah, just whoaaa. mods felt abused and then he was outed ...

the fucked up thing on TL is that one ca never be 'forgiven' for transgressions; one can get a pass sometimes, but what one does, will always count towards the/a final outcome. i find that seriously messed up; like a students' debt and bankruptcy - unless you can prove that a handicap of sorts exists(to trigger that righteous rainbow in them liberals), you're done for.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8151 Posts
February 07 2019 17:37 GMT
#15
On February 08 2019 02:24 xM(Z wrote:
aaaaaannd the white man wins again+ Show Spoiler +
come on, it's fucking funny
.

we exchanged some PMs a while ago but he seemed to be fishing for something(attaching definitions/characterizations to ... things so i stopped replying, but this ... woah, just whoaaa. mods felt abused and then he was outed ...

the fucked up thing on TL is that one ca never be 'forgiven' for transgressions; one can get a pass sometimes, but what one does, will always count towards the/a final outcome. i find that seriously messed up; like a students' debt and bankruptcy - unless you can prove that a handicap of sorts exists(to trigger that righteous rainbow in them liberals), you're done for.


Just like in real life. If you keep acting like an ass, people will start shunning you. Just because I keep stealing my friend's money they suddenly don't want to invite me over any more. It's just so messed up!

Btw, people who have been here for a long time usually get a lot more leniency than newer people. GH ban was very abnormal, and the mods recognised that fact themselves in the message. So it's actually the opposite of what you just said.

(That said, if a mod could give me back the report button that I lost since my first ban that would be swell, thanks!)
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
February 07 2019 17:38 GMT
#16
xM(z ehhhh, I mean, I think they're considerate of what you've done in the past vs the present. I can attest to that with my long history here. I think it really just depends on how you've handled yourself through out those years.
Life?
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
February 07 2019 17:39 GMT
#17
On February 08 2019 02:37 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2019 02:24 xM(Z wrote:
aaaaaannd the white man wins again+ Show Spoiler +
come on, it's fucking funny
.

we exchanged some PMs a while ago but he seemed to be fishing for something(attaching definitions/characterizations to ... things so i stopped replying, but this ... woah, just whoaaa. mods felt abused and then he was outed ...

the fucked up thing on TL is that one ca never be 'forgiven' for transgressions; one can get a pass sometimes, but what one does, will always count towards the/a final outcome. i find that seriously messed up; like a students' debt and bankruptcy - unless you can prove that a handicap of sorts exists(to trigger that righteous rainbow in them liberals), you're done for.


Just like in real life. If you keep acting like an ass, people will start shunning you. Just because I keep stealing my friend's money they suddenly don't want to invite me over any more. It's just so messed up!

Btw, people who have been here for a long time usually get a lot more leniency than newer people. GH ban was very abnormal, and the mods recognised that fact themselves in the message. So it's actually the opposite of what you just said.

(That said, if a mod could give me back the report button that I lost since my first ban that would be swell, thanks!)



Done, feel free to report all the things. (Within reason)
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
respect_my_authorita
Profile Joined February 2019
1 Post
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 18:07:38
February 07 2019 18:04 GMT
#18


User was banned for this post. PBU
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18110 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 21:04:41
February 07 2019 18:08 GMT
#19
On February 08 2019 03:04 respect_my_authorita wrote:
Show nested quote +
GreenHorizons was just banned by Seeker.

That account was created on 2011-04-16 10:56:04 and had 15287 posts.

Reason: GH, I am very sorry that things have come to this. However, after a long and lengthy discussion, the mod team has come to the conclusion that it is time for you and TL to part ways. Since you've been a member of TL for almost 8 years, this was definitely not an easy decision. However, our most recent conversation, and the string of events that have occurred over the past couple of months has proven to us that you will never change how you carry yourself on this site.

Your attitude and disrespect toward the TL moderation team and our rules/guidelines is something that we can no longer tolerate. Your behavior toward other TL members that you dislike has become far too much of a nuisance. We have tried many times to reason with you and to help you out, but you keep going back to your old ways. We are sick and tired of this endless cycle and we feel that you have used up all your chances with us.

Therefore, we bid you farewell. Good luck elsewhere.


Nuked


At least we don't have to guess who the PBU is Excludos missed out on the easy report stats padding with his shiny new button tho!
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8151 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 21:04:58
February 07 2019 18:10 GMT
#20
On February 08 2019 03:08 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2019 03:04 respect_my_authorita wrote:
GreenHorizons was just banned by Seeker.

That account was created on 2011-04-16 10:56:04 and had 15287 posts.

Reason: GH, I am very sorry that things have come to this. However, after a long and lengthy discussion, the mod team has come to the conclusion that it is time for you and TL to part ways. Since you've been a member of TL for almost 8 years, this was definitely not an easy decision. However, our most recent conversation, and the string of events that have occurred over the past couple of months has proven to us that you will never change how you carry yourself on this site.

Your attitude and disrespect toward the TL moderation team and our rules/guidelines is something that we can no longer tolerate. Your behavior toward other TL members that you dislike has become far too much of a nuisance. We have tried many times to reason with you and to help you out, but you keep going back to your old ways. We are sick and tired of this endless cycle and we feel that you have used up all your chances with us.

Therefore, we bid you farewell. Good luck elsewhere.


Nuked


At least we don't have to guess who the PBU is Excludos missed out on the easy report stats padding with his shiny new button tho!


Damnit! The mods work quick! Only 5 minutes late too
1 2 3 4 5 10 11 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Sea Duckling Open #140
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 217
Creator 53
Railgan 44
Codebar 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 6620
Horang2 3917
GuemChi 2387
Jaedong 822
BeSt 324
actioN 312
Soma 290
EffOrt 282
Mini 249
Rush 241
[ Show more ]
Mind 95
Hyun 86
Bonyth 60
Backho 58
ToSsGirL 52
Aegong 40
LaStScan 38
PianO 31
JYJ25
sas.Sziky 24
zelot 18
Rock 16
Terrorterran 12
soO 12
sorry 10
Sacsri 7
HiyA 6
Dota 2
Gorgc5342
qojqva2517
Dendi913
BananaSlamJamma132
syndereN13
LuMiX1
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor257
Other Games
singsing2232
B2W.Neo1362
Hui .327
Sick298
Lowko253
Fuzer 195
XcaliburYe127
XaKoH 87
nookyyy 56
mouzStarbuck28
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV904
Counter-Strike
PGL200
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 69
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2674
League of Legends
• Stunt684
• HappyZerGling101
Upcoming Events
IPSL
3h 17m
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
LAN Event
3h 17m
Lambo vs Clem
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs TBD
Zoun vs TBD
BSL 21
5h 17m
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs OyAji
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
8h 17m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19h 17m
WardiTV Korean Royale
21h 17m
LAN Event
1d
IPSL
1d 3h
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
1d 5h
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
1d 18h
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
1d 21h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.