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So why was GH banned?

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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 14:12:08
February 07 2019 13:54 GMT
#1
Didn't there use to be an actual ban report that could be read somewhere? I am wondering what the actual reason for perm banning a ~10 year veteran is here.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 14:11:44
February 07 2019 14:02 GMT
#2
Sounded like something to do with long-running disagreements with the moderation staff. I'd also hope to hear something more concrete than that, though, if there's a willingness to share, because it does seem like there's more of a story to it than that given the other steps taken (including "no more political blogs" which is a much more significant step than just removing GH).

ABL post, for context, was:

GreenHorizons was just banned by Seeker.

That account was created on 2011-04-16 10:56:04 and had 15287 posts.

Reason: GH, I am very sorry that things have come to this. However, after a long and lengthy discussion, the mod team has come to the conclusion that it is time for you and TL to part ways. Since you've been a member of TL for almost 8 years, this was definitely not an easy decision. However, our most recent conversation, and the string of events that have occurred over the past couple of months has proven to us that you will never change how you carry yourself on this site.

Your attitude and disrespect toward the TL moderation team and our rules/guidelines is something that we can no longer tolerate. Your behavior toward other TL members that you dislike has become far too much of a nuisance. We have tried many times to reason with you and to help you out, but you keep going back to your old ways. We are sick and tired of this endless cycle and we feel that you have used up all your chances with us.

Therefore, we bid you farewell. Good luck elsewhere.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 14:13:02
February 07 2019 14:12 GMT
#3
I know that he and the mod team had a lot of discussions via PM. But he has always responded poorly any sort of moderation. He necroed a blog from 2009 about racism and got 2 day ban. After than ban ended, he did the exact same thing to another thread that got locked. And then came to feedback asking why it got locked. It just seemed like he was very invested in picking fights if he we ever told he couldn’t do exactly what he wanted.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18410 Posts
February 07 2019 14:13 GMT
#4
Idle speculation: mods closed the blog due to the change in policy, GH sent some not-nice messages to mods, and he got banned.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 07 2019 14:16 GMT
#5
On February 07 2019 23:13 Acrofales wrote:
Idle speculation: mods closed the blog due to the change in policy, GH sent some not-nice messages to mods, and he got banned.

Made me look at the timestamps.

Seems like both events happened in tandem. The ban and the blog rule seems like it was a package deal.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-08 12:56:23
February 07 2019 14:18 GMT
#6
edit: -
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 07 2019 14:20 GMT
#7
Closed threads.

I would still like to hear more from the mods if there's more to be shared. If not, I understand, but it would be appreciated.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 07 2019 15:36 GMT
#8
Seeker's explanation seemed reasonable enough. GH has been very open about the fact that he conducts himself the way he does because he feels like he needs to. He sees it as a good thing and has made it clear he had no intention of ever changing.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
February 07 2019 15:42 GMT
#9
On February 07 2019 23:18 travis wrote:
Hmmm

Surprisingly I think I will just give the mods the benefit of the doubt and let this go without being annoying about it. The website has become a little more "PC" over time but when I think about it I don't have many examples of mods being abusive of their powers.

It is too bad, though

also where is that ban list hidden at???


There's no point in linking to the thread, as it changes title (and therefore link) every time someone new gets banned. But if you search for "Automated ban list" in the search field, it will be the top result
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
February 07 2019 16:13 GMT
#10
All I knew of him was that he once complained that there weren't enough black mods?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 07 2019 16:15 GMT
#11
ha ha when did he do that, LOL

not trying to mock him because I like him but there can't even be that many black posters on TL
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 16:33:45
February 07 2019 16:32 GMT
#12
On February 08 2019 01:15 travis wrote:
ha ha when did he do that, LOL

not trying to mock him because I like him but there can't even be that many black posters on TL

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tl-community/275302-ask-tl-staff-anything?page=632#12630 (just start reading from there)

i guess he wasn't really complaining, but clearly felt he would prefer to talk to a black mod
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 07 2019 16:54 GMT
#13
On February 08 2019 01:32 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2019 01:15 travis wrote:
ha ha when did he do that, LOL

not trying to mock him because I like him but there can't even be that many black posters on TL

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tl-community/275302-ask-tl-staff-anything?page=632#12630 (just start reading from there)

i guess he wasn't really complaining, but clearly felt he would prefer to talk to a black mod


That is amazing LOL
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 17:25:28
February 07 2019 17:24 GMT
#14
aaaaaannd the white man wins again+ Show Spoiler +
come on, it's fucking funny
.

we exchanged some PMs a while ago but he seemed to be fishing for something(attaching definitions/characterizations to ... things so i stopped replying, but this ... woah, just whoaaa. mods felt abused and then he was outed ...

the fucked up thing on TL is that one ca never be 'forgiven' for transgressions; one can get a pass sometimes, but what one does, will always count towards the/a final outcome. i find that seriously messed up; like a students' debt and bankruptcy - unless you can prove that a handicap of sorts exists(to trigger that righteous rainbow in them liberals), you're done for.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
February 07 2019 17:37 GMT
#15
On February 08 2019 02:24 xM(Z wrote:
aaaaaannd the white man wins again+ Show Spoiler +
come on, it's fucking funny
.

we exchanged some PMs a while ago but he seemed to be fishing for something(attaching definitions/characterizations to ... things so i stopped replying, but this ... woah, just whoaaa. mods felt abused and then he was outed ...

the fucked up thing on TL is that one ca never be 'forgiven' for transgressions; one can get a pass sometimes, but what one does, will always count towards the/a final outcome. i find that seriously messed up; like a students' debt and bankruptcy - unless you can prove that a handicap of sorts exists(to trigger that righteous rainbow in them liberals), you're done for.


Just like in real life. If you keep acting like an ass, people will start shunning you. Just because I keep stealing my friend's money they suddenly don't want to invite me over any more. It's just so messed up!

Btw, people who have been here for a long time usually get a lot more leniency than newer people. GH ban was very abnormal, and the mods recognised that fact themselves in the message. So it's actually the opposite of what you just said.

(That said, if a mod could give me back the report button that I lost since my first ban that would be swell, thanks!)
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
February 07 2019 17:38 GMT
#16
xM(z ehhhh, I mean, I think they're considerate of what you've done in the past vs the present. I can attest to that with my long history here. I think it really just depends on how you've handled yourself through out those years.
Life?
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
February 07 2019 17:39 GMT
#17
On February 08 2019 02:37 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2019 02:24 xM(Z wrote:
aaaaaannd the white man wins again+ Show Spoiler +
come on, it's fucking funny
.

we exchanged some PMs a while ago but he seemed to be fishing for something(attaching definitions/characterizations to ... things so i stopped replying, but this ... woah, just whoaaa. mods felt abused and then he was outed ...

the fucked up thing on TL is that one ca never be 'forgiven' for transgressions; one can get a pass sometimes, but what one does, will always count towards the/a final outcome. i find that seriously messed up; like a students' debt and bankruptcy - unless you can prove that a handicap of sorts exists(to trigger that righteous rainbow in them liberals), you're done for.


Just like in real life. If you keep acting like an ass, people will start shunning you. Just because I keep stealing my friend's money they suddenly don't want to invite me over any more. It's just so messed up!

Btw, people who have been here for a long time usually get a lot more leniency than newer people. GH ban was very abnormal, and the mods recognised that fact themselves in the message. So it's actually the opposite of what you just said.

(That said, if a mod could give me back the report button that I lost since my first ban that would be swell, thanks!)



Done, feel free to report all the things. (Within reason)
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
respect_my_authorita
Profile Joined February 2019
1 Post
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 18:07:38
February 07 2019 18:04 GMT
#18


User was banned for this post. PBU
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 21:04:41
February 07 2019 18:08 GMT
#19
On February 08 2019 03:04 respect_my_authorita wrote:
Show nested quote +
GreenHorizons was just banned by Seeker.

That account was created on 2011-04-16 10:56:04 and had 15287 posts.

Reason: GH, I am very sorry that things have come to this. However, after a long and lengthy discussion, the mod team has come to the conclusion that it is time for you and TL to part ways. Since you've been a member of TL for almost 8 years, this was definitely not an easy decision. However, our most recent conversation, and the string of events that have occurred over the past couple of months has proven to us that you will never change how you carry yourself on this site.

Your attitude and disrespect toward the TL moderation team and our rules/guidelines is something that we can no longer tolerate. Your behavior toward other TL members that you dislike has become far too much of a nuisance. We have tried many times to reason with you and to help you out, but you keep going back to your old ways. We are sick and tired of this endless cycle and we feel that you have used up all your chances with us.

Therefore, we bid you farewell. Good luck elsewhere.


Nuked


At least we don't have to guess who the PBU is Excludos missed out on the easy report stats padding with his shiny new button tho!
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-07 21:04:58
February 07 2019 18:10 GMT
#20
On February 08 2019 03:08 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2019 03:04 respect_my_authorita wrote:
GreenHorizons was just banned by Seeker.

That account was created on 2011-04-16 10:56:04 and had 15287 posts.

Reason: GH, I am very sorry that things have come to this. However, after a long and lengthy discussion, the mod team has come to the conclusion that it is time for you and TL to part ways. Since you've been a member of TL for almost 8 years, this was definitely not an easy decision. However, our most recent conversation, and the string of events that have occurred over the past couple of months has proven to us that you will never change how you carry yourself on this site.

Your attitude and disrespect toward the TL moderation team and our rules/guidelines is something that we can no longer tolerate. Your behavior toward other TL members that you dislike has become far too much of a nuisance. We have tried many times to reason with you and to help you out, but you keep going back to your old ways. We are sick and tired of this endless cycle and we feel that you have used up all your chances with us.

Therefore, we bid you farewell. Good luck elsewhere.


Nuked


At least we don't have to guess who the PBU is Excludos missed out on the easy report stats padding with his shiny new button tho!


Damnit! The mods work quick! Only 5 minutes late too
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