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Eteoneus
Profile Joined February 2019
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Last Edited: 2019-02-10 14:28:52
February 10 2019 14:23 GMT
#81
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
February 10 2019 14:26 GMT
#82
On February 10 2019 23:23 Eteoneus wrote:
There are a lot more veterans with 10k+ posts that trash around in US Pol that deserve a ban way more than GH.

In the end what decides if you are banned or not is not your posts. For example, LegalLord, xDaunt, and Danglers all deserve a ban more. All three are self-admitted trolls that just post to get enjoyment out of baiting regular or new posters in becoming annoyed by them. And then they prostrate themselves in front of the mods, and the mods take their side. The more drama is going on, the more they enjoy it. And when they succeed, they are all over the The Automated Ban List thread to brag about their 'achievements'.

I think I argued with GH. But to me he was just a one-issue Trump apologist that other people thought was 'black' because he thought there was racism in the US. He was boring.


All of this is wrong.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Eteoneus
Profile Joined February 2019
20 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 14:33:35
February 10 2019 14:33 GMT
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8156 Posts
February 10 2019 14:42 GMT
#84
On February 10 2019 23:33 Eteoneus wrote:
BTW, if GH sent you PMs that make GH look bad, yes you are not allowed to post PMs. But the mods actually want those out, but they can't do it themselves, obviously. So If you want to make him look like an idiot, just post them and the mods will be happy, but they will give you are 2 day ban just because they have to.


Yeah no, lets not go down this road. I can promise you mods won't be secretly happy. This is not TsundereLiquid.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
February 10 2019 14:47 GMT
#85
I was told that it was acceptable to post pm's as long as its in haiku form.
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Eteoneus
Profile Joined February 2019
20 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 14:55:30
February 10 2019 14:53 GMT
#86
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8156 Posts
February 10 2019 15:39 GMT
#87
On February 10 2019 23:53 Eteoneus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2019 23:42 Excludos wrote:
On February 10 2019 23:33 Eteoneus wrote:
BTW, if GH sent you PMs that make GH look bad, yes you are not allowed to post PMs. But the mods actually want those out, but they can't do it themselves, obviously. So If you want to make him look like an idiot, just post them and the mods will be happy, but they will give you are 2 day ban just because they have to.


Yeah no, lets not go down this road. I can promise you mods won't be secretly happy. This is not TsundereLiquid.


We are talking about people like Seeker, BBKadaver, BigFan and tofucake. Not about more mature people like Jibba or StealthBlue, WaxAngel or Liquid'Drone (he is actually my biggest fan).


Your biggest fan..? And you are which PBU..?
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 10 2019 15:45 GMT
#88
Euphorbus I'm guessing.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 16:34:54
February 10 2019 16:34 GMT
#89
On February 10 2019 23:26 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2019 23:23 Eteoneus wrote:
There are a lot more veterans with 10k+ posts that trash around in US Pol that deserve a ban way more than GH.

In the end what decides if you are banned or not is not your posts. For example, LegalLord, xDaunt, and Danglers all deserve a ban more. All three are self-admitted trolls that just post to get enjoyment out of baiting regular or new posters in becoming annoyed by them. And then they prostrate themselves in front of the mods, and the mods take their side. The more drama is going on, the more they enjoy it. And when they succeed, they are all over the The Automated Ban List thread to brag about their 'achievements'.

I think I argued with GH. But to me he was just a one-issue Trump apologist that other people thought was 'black' because he thought there was racism in the US. He was boring.


All of this is wrong.

Eh, to be fair xdaunt should be banned. Remember when he threatened to not shoot all the TL staff members?

And since GH seems to be able to PM, if he want me to post the PM's he can just PM me to agree to post them if he wants to. That is, if he can PM without being a condescending person. I don't mind. I don't have any vested interest in appearing to be a pleasant person.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9244 Posts
February 10 2019 16:43 GMT
#90
Where can I find the rule that says you can't post the pms? I don't see it in the ten commandments. Is it just common decency?
You're now breathing manually
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3248 Posts
February 10 2019 18:59 GMT
#91
On February 11 2019 01:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2019 23:26 Jockmcplop wrote:
On February 10 2019 23:23 Eteoneus wrote:
There are a lot more veterans with 10k+ posts that trash around in US Pol that deserve a ban way more than GH.

In the end what decides if you are banned or not is not your posts. For example, LegalLord, xDaunt, and Danglers all deserve a ban more. All three are self-admitted trolls that just post to get enjoyment out of baiting regular or new posters in becoming annoyed by them. And then they prostrate themselves in front of the mods, and the mods take their side. The more drama is going on, the more they enjoy it. And when they succeed, they are all over the The Automated Ban List thread to brag about their 'achievements'.

I think I argued with GH. But to me he was just a one-issue Trump apologist that other people thought was 'black' because he thought there was racism in the US. He was boring.


All of this is wrong.

Eh, to be fair xdaunt should be banned. Remember when he threatened to not shoot all the TL staff members?

And since GH seems to be able to PM, if he want me to post the PM's he can just PM me to agree to post them if he wants to. That is, if he can PM without being a condescending person. I don't mind. I don't have any vested interest in appearing to be a pleasant person.

Apparently he can only PM staff.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
February 10 2019 19:48 GMT
#92
On February 11 2019 01:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2019 23:26 Jockmcplop wrote:
On February 10 2019 23:23 Eteoneus wrote:
There are a lot more veterans with 10k+ posts that trash around in US Pol that deserve a ban way more than GH.

In the end what decides if you are banned or not is not your posts. For example, LegalLord, xDaunt, and Danglers all deserve a ban more. All three are self-admitted trolls that just post to get enjoyment out of baiting regular or new posters in becoming annoyed by them. And then they prostrate themselves in front of the mods, and the mods take their side. The more drama is going on, the more they enjoy it. And when they succeed, they are all over the The Automated Ban List thread to brag about their 'achievements'.

I think I argued with GH. But to me he was just a one-issue Trump apologist that other people thought was 'black' because he thought there was racism in the US. He was boring.


All of this is wrong.

Eh, to be fair xdaunt should be banned. Remember when he threatened to not shoot all the TL staff members?



Haha shit yeah I do remember that.
I'm not saying danglars, xdaunt etc. aren't insane and ridiculous, but GH has openly admitted trying to antagonize the mods on more than one occasion so its fair to say its not surprising that this happened.
If you break the 'don't be a douchebag' rule too many times then yeah, it might look like an unfair ban, but it probably isn't.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-10 22:47:11
February 10 2019 22:43 GMT
#93
The main thing which makes xDaunt, Danglars and LegalLord less deserving of a ban than GH in my opinion is that they have demonstrated some ability to keep it in their pants. xDaunt and LegalLord have stayed out of the main US politics thread of their own volition, and I don't recall any of them doing things like necroing two ancient threads to get their view out.

Being less deserving of a ban isn't necessarily the same thing as undeserving. But which if any of them that applies to isn't really a topic for this thread.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 00:04:13
February 11 2019 00:00 GMT
#94
Actually I beleive Danglars and xdaunt were both unbanned from the uspol thread recently. It wasn't out of their own volition. I remember checking a month ago and they were both still tempbanned then. xdaunt did stay away for a few months after the US Pol new rules, but couldn't resist and got promptly tempbanned.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 00:09:22
February 11 2019 00:05 GMT
#95
what i've gathered from this thread is that some of the people who don't like GH being bant don't like it because they enjoyed his aggressive-aggressive ranting because it targeted opinions and people they disagree with

aka tribalism

if it had been aimed at the political opinions they have and the people advocating them, i think their opinion of his banning would be quite different

note i said SOME ok not ALL

whether you enjoyed it or not it very clearly went right up to the line TL has instituted and not uncommonly went over it
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 11 2019 00:23 GMT
#96
On February 11 2019 09:00 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Actually I beleive Danglars and xdaunt were both unbanned from the uspol thread recently. It wasn't out of their own volition. I remember checking a month ago and they were both still tempbanned then. xdaunt did stay away for a few months after the US Pol new rules, but couldn't resist and got promptly tempbanned.

Pretty much everything you post is false or insipid. You are the poster child for why the US Politics thread is a waste of time.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 00:44:58
February 11 2019 00:42 GMT
#97
On February 11 2019 09:00 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Actually I beleive Danglars and xdaunt were both unbanned from the uspol thread recently. It wasn't out of their own volition. I remember checking a month ago and they were both still tempbanned then. xdaunt did stay away for a few months after the US Pol new rules, but couldn't resist and got promptly tempbanned.

I didn't say Danglars had stayed out of his own volition. I'm not totally clear on xDaunt but I do believe there were at least periods of time where he was unbanned from both the site and the thread and stayed out anyway. (Perhaps just because he got bored or whatever, but still.)

The point that neither of them spill out into the rest of the forum in the same way as GreenHorizons stands. GH demonstrated that a mere politics-thread ban was insufficient containment.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 11 2019 01:39 GMT
#98
On February 11 2019 09:05 DeepElemBlues wrote:
what i've gathered from this thread is that some of the people who don't like GH being bant don't like it because they enjoyed his aggressive-aggressive ranting because it targeted opinions and people they disagree with

aka tribalism

if it had been aimed at the political opinions they have and the people advocating them, i think their opinion of his banning would be quite different

note i said SOME ok not ALL

whether you enjoyed it or not it very clearly went right up to the line TL has instituted and not uncommonly went over it

This is deeply stupid. GH and I agreed on far more than we disagreed on political. He was unapologetic asshole who treated people like shit. Its not complicated. The guy was a condescending jerk more often than not.
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Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 01:48:39
February 11 2019 01:43 GMT
#99
On February 11 2019 10:39 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 09:05 DeepElemBlues wrote:
what i've gathered from this thread is that some of the people who don't like GH being bant don't like it because they enjoyed his aggressive-aggressive ranting because it targeted opinions and people they disagree with

aka tribalism

if it had been aimed at the political opinions they have and the people advocating them, i think their opinion of his banning would be quite different

note i said SOME ok not ALL

whether you enjoyed it or not it very clearly went right up to the line TL has instituted and not uncommonly went over it

GH and I agreed on far more than we disagreed on political. He was unapologetic asshole who treated people like shit. Its not complicated. The guy was a condescending jerk more often than not.

I don't think anything you've said here contradicts what DeepElemBlues wrote. It seemed to me like a judgement on some people arguing against the GH ban, not a judgement on all or some people on GH's side of politics.

(Possibly you weren't trying to contradict DeepElemBlues and I've just mis-interpreted the target of the first sentence.)
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-11 02:41:25
February 11 2019 02:32 GMT
#100
On February 11 2019 10:39 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2019 09:05 DeepElemBlues wrote:
what i've gathered from this thread is that some of the people who don't like GH being bant don't like it because they enjoyed his aggressive-aggressive ranting because it targeted opinions and people they disagree with

aka tribalism

if it had been aimed at the political opinions they have and the people advocating them, i think their opinion of his banning would be quite different

note i said SOME ok not ALL

whether you enjoyed it or not it very clearly went right up to the line TL has instituted and not uncommonly went over it

This is deeply stupid. GH and I agreed on far more than we disagreed on political. He was unapologetic asshole who treated people like shit. Its not complicated. The guy was a condescending jerk more often than not.


i didn't even refer to people who do not disagree with the ban like yourself

your post exemplifies the sisyphean effort the staff undertakes here. you lead off with calling what i said deeply stupid based on a misunderstanding of what i said. you later say "it's not complicated" which is an implied insult to my intelligence, more subtly implied than "this is deeply stupid" at least. it's all silly head-butting with no productive purpose

i sympathize with that effort because of its sisyphean nature, even though i largely agree with opisska's take. some of the things some of the staff say in response to criticism, the tone and the language used would result in a warning or a ban if directed at them by a regular member, or directed by a regular member at other regular members. the baiting, the implied (or direct) threats, the condescension. i don't think that's necessary or appropriate, i think it's a bad look, and it's the main reason i rarely post here and have rarely posted here for years. who knows what might set off some seeker shitpost directed at you that you cant object to because that just gets you marked

i don't want to root about in the rabbit holes i just jumped down though so that's it for my opinions of your post and of the way some of the staff talks sometimes
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