US Politics Feedback Thread - Page 249

On July 24 2019 05:30 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Here is hoping you get permed anyway for being insufferable and intentionally reading mod actions in the dumbest way possible to continue being the victim.

On July 24 2019 05:08 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
If you don't want it to happen then stop posting? He can't argue without people responding to him.

On July 24 2019 05:36 Nebuchad wrote:


That's a bold strategy, but GH has been doing that for quite a while now and JimmiC keeps engaging with consistently poor answers designed to bait him regardless.

On July 24 2019 05:12 GreenHorizons wrote:


I honestly don't know what "direct questions" are in the opinion of my commander, because JimmiC's been harassing me like this for months with little to no consequence.

Practically everyone except the person giving me that instruction seems to recognize how problematic he's being.

On July 24 2019 05:59 Liquid`Drone wrote:


I understood it to be these two bolded sentences towards the end of one of Jimmy's posts;
Do you want a bloody violent revolution to eliminate the "capitalist class"? If so who are in the capitalist class?

Do you think Israel should be removed from the map? Do you think this will require violence and murder. Do you think this is a fair price to pay because of the atrocities that Israel has committed to the Palestinians?

Now, I'm going a bit far in making assumptions and sharing my thoughts about communication you've had with another moderator. It's important for me to clarify that I think the intention was a good one, and also a sensible one, in that there was a hope that if these two questions were clarified, the conversation could move on and the thread would clean up. I do now fully agree that you have done a more than satisfactory job fleshing out your thoughts, and I hope we can just.. move on.

On July 24 2019 05:32 GreenHorizons wrote:


lol, okay? Not sure where that animosity came from? I'd let you read it yourself so you could explain it to me but here we are.

On July 24 2019 05:12 GreenHorizons wrote:


I honestly don't know what "direct questions" are in the opinion of my commander, because JimmiC's been harassing me like this for months with little to no consequence.

Practically everyone except the person giving me that instruction seems to recognize how problematic he's being.


yeah, I'm not saying I don't want to do it but am out of fear for funzies. As drone said, I've been given the impression if I don't respond to JimmiC to his or the mods satisfaction (to be ambiguously determined) I'm going to be permed so I'm just responding as clearly and comprehensively as I can until I'm released from this expectation (since I'm pretty sure there's no requirement to respond to specific posters just because they incessantly ask you things).

Waiting days to sort this out and refusing to do it publicly is impractical imo.

On July 24 2019 03:04 Sermokala wrote:
GH is not the guy you should be window dressing. He is inherently for advocating for vague morally justified positions and considers the pragmatic reality as beneath him. That people take his arguments seriously instead of him making assertive statements is their prerogative to call him out on.

On July 24 2019 05:36 Nebuchad wrote:


That's a bold strategy, but GH has been doing that for quite a while now and JimmiC keeps engaging with consistently poor answers designed to bait him regardless.

On July 24 2019 06:15 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


I may not post a lot, but I have been reading the threads for years. I'm more than happy to expand on my reasoning as this isn't your first rodeo with complaining in website feedback. I'll start by saying that I think both of you should be banned for talking past eachother for however many pages, but the mods have never done that before so I haven't bothered reporting it as such. I'm not zlefin and don't intend to become a moderator so they'll make their own decision.

As for reading mod actions in the dumbest way possible we have this gem:
https://tl.net/forum/website-feedback/510156-us-politics-thread?page=170#3398

GreenHorizons thinks Seeker told JimmyC to PM his racist remarks instead of stopping their petty squabbling. Your fued with the mods is no secret and I'm not sure why they continue to put up with your bullshit at this point.



This is specifically what set me off though. You've been doing this talk past each other because you think a mod told you that you had to respond to all of his posts? You aren't that dense and you playing it up as the victim in website feedback is getting old. Do us all a favor and get banned.

and agree with Serm on this:

On July 25 2018 01:43 GreenHorizons wrote:
Except my "petty bullshit" was pointing out how irreparably flawed the arguments I was confronting were and his was calling me a racist uncle tom.

Rather than warn him or something to demonstrate that's not acceptable he put both positions/arguments on the same level of pettiness by responding to him calling me a racist uncle tom by telling him to take it to PM. Indicating to both of us that if he sent unsolicited PM's calling me a racist uncle tom that it would be within the bounds of exactly what Seeker suggested he do.

As a result I'm getting those PM's and he went on to call me racist (in thread) yet again.

I fully understand why Seeker posted what he did and actually genuinely thanked him for copping to it.

Please fuck off with that nonsense.

On July 24 2019 06:34 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Seeker not banning you because he didn't ban JimmiC isn't a very strong argument in my opinion. At the end of the day it takes two people to talk past each other so stop being a victim in the feedback thread and just stop responding to him.

You're not this dense. You didn't need Drone to explain to you to stop posting responses to him.

On July 24 2019 06:46 GreenHorizons wrote:


I was pointing out I made my argument then (which you didn't address then or now) and that Seeker acknowledged he responded poorly, contradicting your point.

You don't know how Drone's interpretation matches up to the instructions I received so I don't think you're in a position to make that assessment.

If the conclusion is I can return to ignoring JimmiC's badgering I'm fine with that, but that it hasn't been said gives me the impression that's not the case.

I'll start by saying that I think both of you should be banned for talking past eachother for however many pages

On July 24 2018 12:27 Seeker wrote:
JimmiC, GH, you two need to take it to PMs. The constant bickering is mucking up this thread. If you can't discuss things in a civil manner, then just don't discuss them.

On July 24 2019 06:15 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
and then he comes to website feedback to complain that he got baited? Please fuck off with that nonsense. If you think this post has anything to do with defending JimmiC you're sorely mistaken. Ban them both for talking past each other.

On July 24 2019 06:55 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:




I will admit that I didn't followup on that conversation properly and was unaware of you being unbanned, but doesn't detract from my viewpoint at all.





I don't see myself getting access to those PMs so consider the obvious that my opinion is based on not seeing them.

On July 24 2019 06:57 Nebuchad wrote:


The fuck is this answer? I'm pretty sure pointing out that GH has been doing what you're advising is relevant to your post.

On July 24 2019 07:00 GreenHorizons wrote:


I'm an open book, perhaps it's the people who refuse to let you see this kinda stuff that aren't being entirely forthcoming, leaving you with a distorted perspective (not saying it's unreasonable, just distorted because relevant information isn't available to you)?

On July 24 2019 07:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


Do I really need to link GreenHorizons and JimmiC talking past each other in the main thread, his blog, the Venaluza blog? I can go dig up the posts if you don't remember, but I don't think I need to do that. The previous website feedback posts were the easiest to find of them talking past each other because I don't post a lot and I responded.

On July 24 2019 07:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


Do I really need to link GreenHorizons and JimmiC talking past each other in the main thread, his blog, the Venaluza blog? I can go dig up the posts if you don't remember, but I don't think I need to do that. The previous website feedback posts were the easiest to find of them talking past each other because I don't post a lot and I responded.



I don't think there is any evidence you could provide that would make me think it is reasonable for you to talk past another poster and shit up the thread for ten pages, but I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if I am.

On July 24 2019 07:24 GreenHorizons wrote:


Perhaps, but I wasn't arguing that?

On July 24 2019 07:27 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


I thought you meant that my distorted view of the situation would result in a different outcome if I had a clear view. If that wasn't the case then there's nothing more to add.

On July 24 2019 07:34 GreenHorizons wrote:


I've lost your point?

I was saying that perhaps your perception of what's transpiring is distorted because you have limited information, as exemplified by your realization about Seeker's error and the confirmation that I'm being required to respond to his direct questions to me even if I seemingly can't communicate with him (despite practically the whole thread seeing the issue isn't a lack of effort or clarity on my part), and not doing it for fun.

On July 24 2019 07:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


This is the fifth or sixth time now and you could barely even consider it different topics. Do you see yourself as a victim or having the moral high ground here like this isn't your fault? This question is the heart of me saying there's no evidence you can provide. There's no moral high ground in two people talking past each other. Either of you could grow up and discard the conversation at any time.