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RealityIsKing
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On January 05 2017 08:45 BigFan wrote: Report it next time please. We aren't always on TL and need to catch on reading the thread to action etc... I don't have the report button :s | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On January 05 2017 10:32 zlefin wrote: it's not a pointless ad hominem deflection. it's a pointful ad hominem. the point is i'm asking you to please stop it. as have others in the thread. it's not helpful or productive in the slightest. and it's not a deflection cuz it's on topic. we know. WE KNOW already. you repeating it ad nauseam doesn't help. you're being like CNN when they cover the same event 24/7 for 6 months repeating the same stuff over and over. why not try discussing solutions instead of harping on it over and over? or at least harp on it less often, like no more than once a day. why do you insist on repeating it so much? anger? disgust at the situation? Going to just put this very bluntly: piss off with your self-acknowledged ad hominem attack. You made your point, I disagree, and at this point it's clearly grudge-making rather than a contribution to the discussion. | ||
tofucake
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
only just noticed this thread started up again, as I don't check website feedback as often. | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule19192 Posts
enjoy | ||
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zlefin
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tofucake
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zlefin
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On January 06 2017 00:10 tofucake wrote: I'm not agreeing with you, I'm telling you to stop as well, regardless of what he does. agree, enough already. Last thing we want to see is the thread go down the gutter after the discussion has been fairly productive for the last while. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/383301-us-politics-mega-thread?page=6518#130344 there's no need for him to start trouble in such an unjustified manner. much as I do like the word idiot and using it, it needs to be applied judiciously and correctly. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
On January 07 2017 13:43 zlefin wrote: I would like to complain about the unjustified accusation of being an idiot herein: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/383301-us-politics-mega-thread?page=6518#130344 there's no need for him to start trouble in such an unjustified manner. much as I do like the word idiot and using it, it needs to be applied judiciously and correctly. He's not being abrasive or aggressive though. One use of the word "idiot" every now and then is acceptable. We don't want to prevent people from having opinions. And people often say things in the heat of the moment. That's just all a part of being a human being. We makes mistakes. Now if he goes out of his way to insult you constantly or consistently, then yes, we'll definitely step in and take action. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On January 07 2017 13:43 zlefin wrote: I would like to complain about the unjustified accusation of being an idiot herein: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/383301-us-politics-mega-thread?page=6518#130344 there's no need for him to start trouble in such an unjustified manner. much as I do like the word idiot and using it, it needs to be applied judiciously and correctly. You're one of those kind of people relying on [things] that have been proven to not actually work in the real world. I was wondering when I'd first meet some perhaps the problem is that you haven't thought through the positions enough yourself If the two options, both users warned for calling each other idiots, in so many words, and neither, I'm siding with leaving the red text out. It would be in every third post if that was the standard. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5298 Posts
whatthefuck. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On January 08 2017 01:47 Danglars wrote: If the two options, both users warned for calling each other idiots, in so many words, and neither, I'm siding with leaving the red text out. It would be in every third post if that was the standard. and danglars makes an invalid point, no surprise there  i didn't call him an idiot. most people are unaware that those things have been proven not to work in the real world. and my second is also far less abrasive than calling him an idiot. and also it's correct. citing again, that book. xmz -> why bother coming here to complain if you're going to strawman the argument they made? PS i'd happily move to another forum if I knew of a better one for political discussion. but there's not many such places on the internet, and none seem to want me to run one. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5298 Posts
there's absolutely no comparing, no similarities and nothing gets explained from doing it; it's not even a goddamn tangent. politics is a human cesspool made up of depraved individuals that stain everything they touch. comparing anyone like that with a rape victim should get one instant banned. | ||
Liquid`Drone
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xM(Z
Romania5298 Posts
one dude whitewashing a whole establishment ... yea, nope. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28738 Posts
The exceptions that distort the impression of the entire group are the ones who are corrupt and at the top. I can agree that if you examine top positions in the non-west and some western countries, corruption is rampant, desire for personal power and glory trumps desire for societal improvement, but I absolutely disagree with the idea that 'politics is a cesspool made up of depraved individuals'. It's a stupid and wrong generalization. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5298 Posts
secondly, the reply was in the US politics thread and the discussion was about DNC/dems political side. now, even if i were to say i made that generalization thinking about worldwide politics(and i did) you'd still have to come up with numbers to back up your claim that my generalization was wrong. from what i saw in polls on Gallup and other sites, the public trust in politicians is ~40% - 45%(Scandinavians were the exception obviously and some others) but overall the numbers were way under 50%. democracy dictates that who has over 51%, wins and the 49ers% are irrelevant; you agree(tacitly approve) with that because, to quote other TLers, "it's the best system you have". and to bring it closer to home: i've read things that said there's a really good chance due september, that the Labor party(socialist, progressive, democratic(?)) would take the lead in governing and replace the current Conservative party in Norway. so where is that trust/approval there?. my guess is that, on a personal level, you separate the individual from the apparatus of politics and start seeing virtues. i can not afford to do that because ... history and because i believe a system corrupts by the ways of "the rite of passage". note: in general, i don't think i could ever understand why one sees 51% ruling over 49% as fair/democratic but then object to that special 1% that would be outside the scope of a generalization anyway?. hell, you even accept without flinching some form of collateral damage(which amounts to more than 1%) but when someone touches that 1% with a generalization(which is not an absolute btw; one can generalize absolutes), all hell breaks loose. User was warned for this post | ||
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