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On March 14 2014 03:19 DeepElemBlues wrote:
that you're a contemptible human being
no one cares about the russian opinion of british and american historians
no one cares about the russian opinion of british and american historians
you've been horribly educated to and lied to your whole life and pumped up with pride in a fascist ideal of "Russia" that the communists and now Putin want you to believe in and everyone can see what it has done to you.
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On March 14 2014 03:26 PaleMan wrote:
thats true
i've been horribly educated and lied in 90s by so called democrats
they told me that USA is shining beacon of truth and all good things come from there
but when i grew up i saw that they were liars
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deb tells him he's been lied to his whole life, insults his country, tells him he's been pumped up with fascist ideals, and tells him he's a contemptible human being.
paleman in a self-deprecating fashion says he was told us was the beeznees growing up, but that it turned out to be a lie.
he get's banned, deb gets warned. this moderation is unfair, it's a shame. teletubby suck.
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Vancouver14381 Posts
I'm pretty sure PaleMan got stricter moderation because he already got warned and banned multiple times in the EuroMaidan thread - 3 bans and 2 warnings before this one from my count.
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deb's moderation history is surely one of the worst on tl. you are completely disregarding how disproportionate the abrasiveness are in the posts. paleman has been getting the short end of the stick out of everyone in the euromaidan thread, largely self-inflicted no doubt, but man that's some biased as shit moderation. i feel sorry for him.
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Zurich15366 Posts
I agree this looks unfortunate. But to be honest it's incredibly hard to moderate this thread. Just the page those two were on and the previous one there were enough posts to ban half the people there.
I guess we will have to be stricter toward everyone in the thread from now on.
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sure, and maybe if teletubby had scrolled from top to bottom he would have been a bit wiser before banning paleman.
besides this, i think the moderation has been good in that thread.
i think the warning is a weak cop out after the ban on paleman was landed.
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tellebrubber wrote
? I think you're thinking of something else... he was banned for the nation bashing.
where in that post was paleman "nation bashing"?
still tl moderation ignoring the ridiculous disparity in the abrasiveness in the posts. i dare you to find a more toxic post in that thread than deb's, and i dare you to find a guy with a more toxic moderation history than the one making it.
bad moderation and and bad tl.net not taking action on obviously biased moderation.
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It looks a bit off to me, but that is a hard thread, and paleman had really been trolling it hard. Not too sure about deb.
Just ban both if necessary?
I wonder if actual shills should be banned? while some of the Russian guys read as actual Russian citizens; the new guy that just joined today totally reads like a paid propagandist.
Though I concur that tl has a history of biased moderation, which I've been victim to repeatedly.
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I cant stand posts like the one above me-
if you feel like you have been moderated more strictly than others, you have probably earned it. I have never once seen a ban that I thought didnt have damn good reasoning behind it.
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I'm sorry you can't accept the truth that the moderation is biased.
My actions may not have been perfect, but there were others who were clearly and demonstrably the source of the problem and committing worse infractions who were not punished at all; hence, bias.
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I personally would think DEB has a bannable post, especially considering his history.
You can't let him off with a warning for calling someone else a "contemptible human being", that's just a direct attack on someone else with no contribution to the topic. It's also just plain rude. I would say ban them both.
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On March 17 2014 11:29 zlefin wrote:
I'm sorry you can't accept the truth that the moderation is biased.
My actions may not have been perfect, but there were others who were clearly and demonstrably the source of the problem and committing worse infractions who were not punished at all; hence, bias.
Oh I have no doubt that moderation is probably biased against you, you immediately strike me as unpleasant. However that doesnt speak to the mods not doing a good job, it just speaks to you earning your bias.
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Bias is by definition not accurate; and your dislike for me is a result of your own inability to see truth.
And it does speak to the mods not doing a good job, again, by definition.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
I'm reasonably sure that the Ten Commandments make it very clear that moderation on TL is not necessarily unbiased (besides, there isn't a person anywhere who is), lending favours to older and/or contributing members.
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On March 19 2014 02:41 zlefin wrote:
Bias is by definition not accurate; and your dislike for me is a result of your own inability to see truth.
And it does speak to the mods not doing a good job, again, by definition.
you are really arrogant enough to think that you can tell me my own reasons for disliking you?
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Edit: Sorry, was previewing here, wrong place to post.
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Russian Federation1953 Posts
thx nunez
i'm not feeling bad about those ban at all
its so called democracy - if you are not with US&EU you are banned
i know there is actually no democracy at all in the world, there is only a word "democracy" but too many brainwashed ppl think it exist
also, i must point attention of TL staff to Kwark - is he still a mod?
cause in the midgame of Euromaidan thread he f-bombed in almost every post, i dunno how guy like this can be moderator
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United States24805 Posts
PaleMan, I'm not sure why you are trying to accuse TL of being some type of a failed or fake democracy. TL is well known not to be or claim to be a democracy. TL is a house. You are a guest.
This also is not an appropriate forum for you to start a political discussion about democracy around the world.
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On March 29 2014 06:22 PaleMan wrote:
cause in the midgame of Euromaidan thread he f-bombed in almost every post, i dunno how guy like this can be moderator
You make it sound like cursing is prohibited on TL.
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all i will say is that i think complaining in this fashion accomplishes nothing so that is why i don't do it (also why i don't report posts). i think it's whiny and self-righteous and everything else i could think to say also sounded whiny. and self-righteous too in a way even i am uncomfortable with so i'll leave it at that.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
you all deserve it for posting in general
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