On October 04 2012 00:51 Myles wrote: It is a stock message that wasn't created just for you. And yea, Kwark is British and comes off quite rude sometimes.
Well then its pretty obvious that they should change the stock message.
I saw that it says "United Kingdom" next to KwarK.
I personally don't think all the shit the "TLBot" said was necessary.
It's quite stupid how this site is ran by stupid people
When the site itself is full of good posts and streams
On October 04 2012 00:51 Myles wrote: It is a stock message that wasn't created just for you. And yea, Kwark is British and comes off quite rude sometimes.
Well then its pretty obvious that they should change the stock message.
I saw that it says "United Kingdom" next to KwarK.
I personally don't think all the shit the "TLBot" said was necessary.
It's quite stupid how this site is ran by stupid people
When the site itself is full of good posts and streams
I get it, you're pissed off and offended, but it's also quite stupid to generalize all the mods as the same. Kwark is generally more insult happy in his warnings/bans. You're only going to get yourself banned by insulting everyone who makes this site what it is.
if this site is so stupid and run by stupid people why are you still here? There are other places to get your stream list (twitch.tv, that stream aggregator thing that dude on reddit made i cant think of right now), and other places to find posts (reddit, gosugamers, 4chan). You posted first and got hit by the bot and now you've opened two thread about how mad you are? Lol?
also
"You were shitposting, got a warning for it and seem confused by the situation. Don't shitpost. Also don't make shitty topics"
Thanks KwarK. Seems like you are the real one who is fucking confused by the situation. Learn how to use better words than "Shitty" and "Stupid"
On October 04 2012 00:59 Kiante wrote: if this site is so stupid and run by stupid people why are you still here? There are other places to get your stream list (twitch.tv, that stream aggregator thing that dude on reddit made i cant think of right now), and other places to find posts (reddit, gosugamers, 4chan). You posted first and got hit by the bot and now you've opened two thread about how mad you are? Lol?
On October 04 2012 00:59 Kiante wrote: if this site is so stupid and run by stupid people why are you still here? There are other places to get your stream list (twitch.tv, that stream aggregator thing that dude on reddit made i cant think of right now), and other places to find posts (reddit, gosugamers, 4chan). You posted first and got hit by the bot and now you've opened two thread about how mad you are? Lol?
also
"You were shitposting, got a warning for it and seem confused by the situation. Don't shitpost. Also don't make shitty topics"
Thanks KwarK. Seems like you are the real one who is fucking confused by the situation. Learn how to use better words than "Shitty" and "Stupid"
i mean come on, he didn't even say stupid.
Oh do you want me to put another screen shot where he says stupid?
I could let me do it right now for you^^
Think once more bro
and maybe you didn't read well? "When the site itself is full of good posts and streams"
I said the site is good but the some people who run is not ^^
I've been needlessly insulted by Kwark too (and I'm sure there are many others). What people take offence to is that you claim all people that run and mod TL are the same. They are not. Most of them are very pleasant and polite individuals. Don't let one bad experience spoil the experience for yourself. Also, if you need to ask why you got warned, PM any mod but Kwark, in my experience they are always happy to answer in detail.
On October 04 2012 00:59 Kiante wrote: if this site is so stupid and run by stupid people why are you still here? There are other places to get your stream list (twitch.tv, that stream aggregator thing that dude on reddit made i cant think of right now), and other places to find posts (reddit, gosugamers, 4chan). You posted first and got hit by the bot and now you've opened two thread about how mad you are? Lol?
also
"You were shitposting, got a warning for it and seem confused by the situation. Don't shitpost. Also don't make shitty topics"
Thanks KwarK. Seems like you are the real one who is fucking confused by the situation. Learn how to use better words than "Shitty" and "Stupid"
i mean come on, he didn't even say stupid.
Oh do you want me to put another screen shot where he says stupid?
I could let me do it right now for you^^
Think once more bro
and maybe you didn't read well? "When the site itself is full of good posts and streams"
I said the site is good but the some people who run is not ^^
I've been needlessly insulted by Kwark too (and I'm sure there are many others). What people take offence to is that you claim all people that run and mod TL are the same. They are not. Most of them are very pleasant and polite individuals. Don't let one bad experience spoil the experience for yourself. Also, if you need to ask why you got warned, PM any mod but Kwark, in my experience they are always happy to answer in detail.
I do apologize to every other people who run this site
I was quite angry with how KwarK answered my post
I do believe that everyone else is nice and would love to reply with good fashion
"Am I just being stupid to feel offended" that´s what you asked and he answered.
You don´t have to be offended by the warning in his opinion so it´s stupid to be offended. That´s how I read it, so the simple solution would be to not be offended and instantly you aren´t stupid ^^
While I find the all-caps PM too much, it´s a good way to teach people something, I guess you won´t make "first ..." comments again.
Stop being so damn angry, it's not going to help your cause here, your last post is a step into the right direction, now take a chill pill and wait for staff to answer this thread. KwarK may have been rude calling you stupid but you calling him a dumb fuck is being just as rude if not even worse. Edit: he didn't even call you stupid, he was answering to your OP in the thread yet you called him a dumb fuck in this threads OP, once again overreacting.
On October 04 2012 01:22 Cokefreak wrote: Stop being so damn angry, it's not going to help your cause here, your last post is a step into the right direction, now take a chill pill and wait for staff to answer this thread. KwarK may have been rude calling you stupid but you calling him a dumb fuck is being just as rude if not even worse. Edit: he didn't even call you stupid, he was answering to your OP in the thread yet you called him a dumb fuck in this threads OP, once again overreacting.
I wasn't asking for his opinion ^^
and also maybe you never heard of Code of Hammurabi
On October 04 2012 01:20 Hondelul wrote: "Am I just being stupid to feel offended" that´s what you asked and he answered.
You don´t have to be offended by the warning in his opinion so it´s stupid to be offended. That´s how I read it, so the simple solution would be to not be offended and instantly you aren´t stupid ^^
While I find the all-caps PM too much, it´s a good way to teach people something, I guess you won´t make "first ..." comments again.
Insulting one's family and grandmother is not a good way to teach someone ^^
Think how you would feel when someone teaches you by saying such words
On October 04 2012 01:22 Cokefreak wrote: Stop being so damn angry, it's not going to help your cause here, your last post is a step into the right direction, now take a chill pill and wait for staff to answer this thread. KwarK may have been rude calling you stupid but you calling him a dumb fuck is being just as rude if not even worse. Edit: he didn't even call you stupid, he was answering to your OP in the thread yet you called him a dumb fuck in this threads OP, once again overreacting.
I wasn't asking for his opinion ^^
and also maybe you never heard of Code of Hammurabi
Eye for an eye
Code of Hammurabi, really? Maybe you've never heard of Code of TL.net. I suggest you read through it to understand how this site works and how you are expected to act here. Like I said, stop being offended by every little thing in the internet, this message was not specifically tailored for you, it is not meant to insult your family, it's just a stock warning message made "funny". If you can't take the joke I suggest you get off the internet as well.
On October 04 2012 01:22 Cokefreak wrote: Stop being so damn angry, it's not going to help your cause here, your last post is a step into the right direction, now take a chill pill and wait for staff to answer this thread. KwarK may have been rude calling you stupid but you calling him a dumb fuck is being just as rude if not even worse. Edit: he didn't even call you stupid, he was answering to your OP in the thread yet you called him a dumb fuck in this threads OP, once again overreacting.
I wasn't asking for his opinion ^^
and also maybe you never heard of Code of Hammurabi
Eye for an eye
Code of Hammurabi, really? Maybe you've never heard of Code of TL.net. I suggest you read through it to understand how this site works and how you are expected to act here. Like I said, stop being offended by every little thing in the internet, this message was not specifically tailored for you, it is not meant to insult your family, it's just a stock warning message made "funny". If you can't take the joke I suggest you get off the internet as well.
I don't see a thing about writing 'first' in the comment being wrong maybe you can find it for me ^^ Also being offended by such language is IMO acceptable I don't think you would like it when a person that you don't even know walks up to you and insult you, just because you done something wrong in pure mistake In addition, the word 'joke' differs to people for you, it might seem as a joke to me? not really
On October 04 2012 01:22 Cokefreak wrote: Stop being so damn angry, it's not going to help your cause here, your last post is a step into the right direction, now take a chill pill and wait for staff to answer this thread. KwarK may have been rude calling you stupid but you calling him a dumb fuck is being just as rude if not even worse. Edit: he didn't even call you stupid, he was answering to your OP in the thread yet you called him a dumb fuck in this threads OP, once again overreacting.
I wasn't asking for his opinion ^^
and also maybe you never heard of Code of Hammurabi
Eye for an eye
Code of Hammurabi, really? Maybe you've never heard of Code of TL.net. I suggest you read through it to understand how this site works and how you are expected to act here. Like I said, stop being offended by every little thing in the internet, this message was not specifically tailored for you, it is not meant to insult your family, it's just a stock warning message made "funny". If you can't take the joke I suggest you get off the internet as well.
Perhaps there's a less angry middle ground somewhere in your messages. The code of Hammurabi is a bit outdated, and we now have a much more subtle notion of retribution and rehabilitation. Think of the laws you adhere to every day. If someone drives into you, you don't expect to go to a judge to get the right to drive into them.
I agree that the message and the reply is in bad taste, but the correct way to behave is to take the high ground. The moment you behave in the same way, you're equally guilty of the infringement. And free of our sympathy as well. Write in feedback that the stock message was out of line, or what-not. But don't respond in kind.
On October 04 2012 01:20 Hondelul wrote: "Am I just being stupid to feel offended" that´s what you asked and he answered.
You don´t have to be offended by the warning in his opinion so it´s stupid to be offended. That´s how I read it, so the simple solution would be to not be offended and instantly you aren´t stupid ^^
While I find the all-caps PM too much, it´s a good way to teach people something, I guess you won´t make "first ..." comments again.
Insulting one's family and grandmother is not a good way to teach someone ^^
Think how you would feel when someone teaches you by saying such words
Difference is I know it´s a standard PM that while directed at you isn´t in any way meant be insulting. Do I think the PM is funny/good? No. Would I take it personally? No. I would think "Well, I should not make such a post again." and go on enjoying my day.
You really got that in the wrong way, got angry and that resulted in another PM that you took as an insult and so forth. Best is to take a step back and don´t take it so serious.
Edit: And btw, I think it should not have been a warning since it was no "First!" but instead a longer post. But that is not what your thread is about and has nothing to do with KwarK. And it was just a warning nothing bad.
On October 04 2012 01:22 Cokefreak wrote: Stop being so damn angry, it's not going to help your cause here, your last post is a step into the right direction, now take a chill pill and wait for staff to answer this thread. KwarK may have been rude calling you stupid but you calling him a dumb fuck is being just as rude if not even worse. Edit: he didn't even call you stupid, he was answering to your OP in the thread yet you called him a dumb fuck in this threads OP, once again overreacting.
I wasn't asking for his opinion ^^
and also maybe you never heard of Code of Hammurabi
Eye for an eye
Code of Hammurabi, really? Maybe you've never heard of Code of TL.net. I suggest you read through it to understand how this site works and how you are expected to act here. Like I said, stop being offended by every little thing in the internet, this message was not specifically tailored for you, it is not meant to insult your family, it's just a stock warning message made "funny". If you can't take the joke I suggest you get off the internet as well.
I don't see a thing about writing 'first' in the comment being wrong maybe you can find it for me ^^ Also being offended by such language is IMO acceptable I don't think you would like it when a person that you don't even know walks up to you and insult you, just because you done something wrong in pure mistake In addition, the word 'joke' differs to people for you, it might seem as a joke to me? not really
Use common sense, if the TL mods had to create a thread to say everything people are not aloud to do then it would have to be serveral pages long and no one would read it. The TL commandments are there as a guide and to tell you whats what.
It's only a warning, it's not the end of the world for you. I got one when I first started for putting "tldr?" as a post. I got a warning message and took some time to check out the site without posting and got to see the posting quality of general users of the site as well as the effort the mods put in to keep the standards high.
The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter.
On October 04 2012 01:56 KwarK wrote: The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter.
Always so helpful. And this thread actually seemed to be making progress.
On October 04 2012 01:56 KwarK wrote: The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter.
Always so helpful. And this thread actually seemed to be making progress.
The chain of events that led to this point go as follows
Him: "I'm going to make a shitty post". TL: "Don't make shitty posts". Him: "I'm going to make a shitty topic in the general forum asking "Am I stupid to be offended by the warning caused by me making shitty posts?"". TL: "Don't make shitty topics and yes, you are". Him: "I see this as being the fault of someone other than me and now I'm really offended". TL: "See previous response".
On October 04 2012 01:56 KwarK wrote: The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter.
Always so helpful. And this thread actually seemed to be making progress.
What about this part?
On October 04 2012 00:45 HanClan wrote: I don't give a fuck who you are, but it seems like you are the dumb fuck who's not understanding the situation ^^
Yes, I did post a comment on the GSL predictions saying "First one to comment! Sad to see Nestea fail D:"
If doing so was wrong, you could have just said "Comments saying first is not allowed" or those sorts of comments in my PM.
But instead of doing so, you guys chose to insult not only me but also my relatives including my grandmother and my family.
I don't know where you guys learned your manners but seems like the one who taught you guys(mostly like to be your parents) are full of shit ^^
"You were shitposting, got a warning for it and seem confused by the situation. Don't shitpost. Also don't make shitty topics"
Thanks KwarK. Seems like you are the real one who is fucking confused by the situation. Learn how to use better words than "Shitty" and "Stupid"
I guess that KwarK's post would fit under the OP's comment about Hammurabi's law then?
On October 04 2012 01:56 KwarK wrote: The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter.
Always so helpful. And this thread actually seemed to be making progress.
On October 04 2012 00:45 HanClan wrote: I don't give a fuck who you are, but it seems like you are the dumb fuck who's not understanding the situation ^^
Yes, I did post a comment on the GSL predictions saying "First one to comment! Sad to see Nestea fail D:"
If doing so was wrong, you could have just said "Comments saying first is not allowed" or those sorts of comments in my PM.
But instead of doing so, you guys chose to insult not only me but also my relatives including my grandmother and my family.
I don't know where you guys learned your manners but seems like the one who taught you guys(mostly like to be your parents) are full of shit ^^
"You were shitposting, got a warning for it and seem confused by the situation. Don't shitpost. Also don't make shitty topics"
Thanks KwarK. Seems like you are the real one who is fucking confused by the situation. Learn how to use better words than "Shitty" and "Stupid"
I guess that KwarK's post would fit under the OP's comment about Hammurabi's law then?
To be honest I think you've rather gone about this the wrong way.
In regards to posting "first" that falls under Commandment #3 specifically:
Finally, do not post for the sake of posting. While it is sometimes acceptable to support another person's view point, doing so by adding "+1", or quoting while adding nothing at all, is not an appropriate post.
You'll note that the commandments are comprehensive, but not exhaustive and 'first' clearly falls under posting for the sake of posting. The fact that you feel the need the argue the point tells me you didn't really spend much time lurking to get the feel for how TL operates.
And to me that's largely the problem that you're running into here. TL has a much higher standard for posting content and it is far better to cautiously figure out how a forum's culture works rather than stomping around, appealing to Hammurabi Code for justice, and the like.
Like you have a very small but legitimate point, but I have so much contempt for you personally from that one post that I can't imagine a single person caring.
In other words, when you're looking for sympathy or pity you shouldn't be so grossly offensive. Coming back with "an eye for an eye" makes you look even less intelligent.
I kinda skipped through the image because I thought op would just be overreacting to something Kwark did and would be blowing it out of proportion. But now that I've gone back and reread that message, it really is pretty bad imo. To send something like that to the op who, only for the reason of putting "first" in his post got that message is pretty harsh. Had he posted without the "first", he likely would not have been warned. But he didn't just say "first", he also put in his thoughts on the matter (in few words though). Other people, including myself, only wish to write maybe a single sentence or two to express ourselves without feeling the need to write out a whole paragraph.
I'm not sure if FakeSteve is telling the truth, but if that is the actual stock message, change it. That's terrible.
In this matter though, op should not have been so harshly warned. But also op should not have retaliated in such a vicious matter by insulting and generalizing the mods in this thread. Like Gene said, op has a point, but his senseless arguing is clouding everyone's judgement and shifting their favorable views toward the mods.
To clarify, the stock message was not sent by me and my involvement only began when he decided he needed to make a general forum topic to ask if he was stupid.
Though I'm not familiar to your modding methods KwarK (people say you're mean lol), I suppose you could have worded your response a bit less offensively. I think that's the way you regularly mod though so w/e. I will say that op should not have made that topic in general if he was so offended by the stock message (which is bad/offensive). Should have made it in website feedback complaining about the stock message. So I think your actions are pretty justified. Then op threw a fit and started insulting mods and people in this thread, which was even worse.
The only thing I think op has a point about is the stock message. It would have been clearer about that from the beginning if he didn't start shitting on everyone who disagreed with him.
On October 04 2012 06:19 Epishade wrote: I kinda skipped through the image because I thought op would just be overreacting to something Kwark did and would be blowing it out of proportion. But now that I've gone back and reread that message, it really is pretty bad imo. To send something like that to the op who, only for the reason of putting "first" in his post got that message is pretty harsh. Had he posted without the "first", he likely would not have been warned. But he didn't just say "first", he also put in his thoughts on the matter (in few words though). Other people, including myself, only wish to write maybe a single sentence or two to express ourselves without feeling the need to write out a whole paragraph.
I'm not sure if FakeSteve is telling the truth, but if that is the actual stock message, change it. That's terrible.
In this matter though, op should not have been so harshly warned. But also op should not have retaliated in such a vicious matter by insulting and generalizing the mods in this thread. Like Gene said, op has a point, but his senseless arguing is clouding everyone's judgement and shifting their favorable views toward the mods.
I think a better warning message might be in order. I panic enough already when I get a new PM, my heart rate goes up by about 20(I tracked it). That's enough punishment without the all caps tirade.
That said, OP's way of approaching the issue was totally wrong.
On October 04 2012 06:19 Epishade wrote: I kinda skipped through the image because I thought op would just be overreacting to something Kwark did and would be blowing it out of proportion. But now that I've gone back and reread that message, it really is pretty bad imo. To send something like that to the op who, only for the reason of putting "first" in his post got that message is pretty harsh. Had he posted without the "first", he likely would not have been warned. But he didn't just say "first", he also put in his thoughts on the matter (in few words though). Other people, including myself, only wish to write maybe a single sentence or two to express ourselves without feeling the need to write out a whole paragraph.
I'm not sure if FakeSteve is telling the truth, but if that is the actual stock message, change it. That's terrible.
In this matter though, op should not have been so harshly warned. But also op should not have retaliated in such a vicious matter by insulting and generalizing the mods in this thread. Like Gene said, op has a point, but his senseless arguing is clouding everyone's judgement and shifting their favorable views toward the mods.
On October 04 2012 06:40 Epishade wrote: Though I'm not familiar to your modding methods KwarK (people say you're mean lol), I suppose you could have worded your response a bit less offensively. I think that's the way you regularly mod though so w/e. I will say that op should not have made that topic in general if he was so offended by the stock message (which is bad/offensive). Should have made it in website feedback complaining about the stock message. So I think your actions are pretty justified. Then op threw a fit and started insulting mods and people in this thread, which was even worse.
The only thing I think op has a point about is the stock message. It would have been clearer about that from the beginning if he didn't start shitting on everyone who disagreed with him.
The context in which the warning was made was such that we were trying to curb a rise in memes and shitposting on ttl. In that context, the message makes sense because we really really don't want to have people posting 'first' - ever. Maybe the message is outdated now, there was a brief discussion yesterday about it and overhauling our stock warning messages and we'll see what happens with that.
On October 04 2012 00:59 Kiante wrote: if this site is so stupid and run by stupid people why are you still here? There are other places to get your stream list (twitch.tv, that stream aggregator thing that dude on reddit made i cant think of right now), and other places to find posts (reddit, gosugamers, 4chan). You posted first and got hit by the bot and now you've opened two thread about how mad you are? Lol?
also
"You were shitposting, got a warning for it and seem confused by the situation. Don't shitpost. Also don't make shitty topics"
Thanks KwarK. Seems like you are the real one who is fucking confused by the situation. Learn how to use better words than "Shitty" and "Stupid"
i mean come on, he didn't even say stupid.
Oh do you want me to put another screen shot where he says stupid?
and maybe you didn't read well? "When the site itself is full of good posts and streams"
I said the site is good but the some people who run is not ^^
User was warned for this post
Hahaha, oh man. I'm sorry but that is just TOO HILARIOUS. Lol, man, I'm pretty sure that they didn't mean anything personal by it. Especially the bot which "threatened your family" and whatnot. Just shake it off would be my advice.
On October 04 2012 05:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: lolol that was the only 'stock message' i contributed, i suppose the humor is outdated now, but LOOOOL all the same
cough cough, i mean yes. standard warning message. completely standard.
On October 04 2012 05:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: lolol that was the only 'stock message' i contributed, i suppose the humor is outdated now, but LOOOOL all the same
cough cough, i mean yes. standard warning message. completely standard.
!!!! O_o;;
You still post?
On October 02 2012 07:17 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: nuts that the 11th/12th place teams get $25,000 each for getting rolled
He still posts once in a while in the LoL subforum.
Kwark helped me realize I was being retarded back in 2010 when the Jaedong/Flash power outage thing happened, hopefully you will see the light as well.
On October 04 2012 01:56 KwarK wrote: The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter.
Almost as funny as that famous stock message imho. <3 Kwark.
On October 05 2012 07:25 pStar wrote: that stock message is disgusting.
And to you guys saying take it as a joke, for some people it might be a lot harder to look at as a joke.
Seriously, anyone that isn't visiting the internet for the first time should be able to shrug stuff like this off instantly. Yes, the stock message(s) could use updating but getting all upset about your family being insulted by some message made years ago is really ridiculous if you ask me.
On October 05 2012 07:25 pStar wrote: that stock message is disgusting.
And to you guys saying take it as a joke, for some people it might be a lot harder to look at as a joke.
Seriously, anyone that isn't visiting the internet for the first time should be able to shrug stuff like this off instantly. Yes, the stock message(s) could use updating but getting all upset about your family being insulted by some message made years ago is really ridiculous if you ask me.
bullshit - being on the internet isn't some reason to not get upset.
tl is a pretty daunting place for a new comer, and if you step out of line, a warning in itself can be somewhat intimidating, but getting an aggressive wall of text leaves a sour impression.
LOLL i have so much respect for KwarK OP: you're in the wrong here, when I scrolled down after reading the thread and saw your post, I probably would've warned you too if I was a mod. besides, its called a WARNING. Be WARNED not to make such a shitty post next time, okay bro?
OP being mostly wrong does not excuse the message. Nobody is in the 'right'.
Honestly. I'm the first person to be gulping down the kool aid and blindly praising everything the whole mod staff does, but even I'm embarrassed having read that.
I've read through the whole post and pieced together a few things. I'm on the side of the OP and will say that Kwark stepped out of line:
1) OP makes a bad "first" post and got justifiably warned. Obviously, the stock warning message was in jest but in poor taste, especially if the user is new and didn't get it.
2) OP makes a post in General to complain: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373092#1 Reading through the post, I didn't find much mistake other than it was in the wrong forum. I don't really blame the OP since the Website Feedback link is right at the bottom and easy to miss. Kwark closed the thread decided to warn him instead of simply moving it to Website Feedback.
3) To compound it, Kwark decided to throw a few unnecessary insults.
4) OP is now extremely incensed and posts this thread. Many users criticise the OP's snarky attitude but realise that many things have already happened. However, if the OP had instead adopted a better attitude, perhaps he would've won more sympathy and the issue gets resolved faster.
5) Kwark fans the flame:
The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter
6) Fortunately, a more level-headed admin (Plexa) steps in and diffuses the situation.
On October 04 2012 05:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: lolol that was the only 'stock message' i contributed, i suppose the humor is outdated now, but LOOOOL all the same
cough cough, i mean yes. standard warning message. completely standard.
On October 05 2012 12:10 Azzur wrote: I've read through the whole post and pieced together a few things. I'm on the side of the OP and will say that Kwark stepped out of line:
1) OP makes a bad "first" post and got justifiably warned. Obviously, the stock warning message was in jest but in poor taste, especially if the user is new and didn't get it.
2) OP makes a post in General to complain: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373092#1 Reading through the post, I didn't find much mistake other than it was in the wrong forum. I don't really blame the OP since the Website Feedback link is right at the bottom and easy to miss. Kwark closed the thread decided to warn him instead of simply moving it to Website Feedback.
3) To compound it, Kwark decided to throw a few unnecessary insults.
4) OP is now extremely incensed and posts this thread. Many users criticise the OP's snarky attitude but realise that many things have already happened. However, if the OP had instead adopted a better attitude, perhaps he would've won more sympathy and the issue gets resolved faster.
The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter
6) Fortunately, a more level-headed admin (Plexa) steps in and diffuses the situation.
yes, but OP was being dumb and that kwark post was hilarious. I approve~
On October 05 2012 12:10 Azzur wrote: I've read through the whole post and pieced together a few things. I'm on the side of the OP and will say that Kwark stepped out of line:
1) OP makes a bad "first" post and got justifiably warned. Obviously, the stock warning message was in jest but in poor taste, especially if the user is new and didn't get it.
2) OP makes a post in General to complain: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373092#1 Reading through the post, I didn't find much mistake other than it was in the wrong forum. I don't really blame the OP since the Website Feedback link is right at the bottom and easy to miss. Kwark closed the thread decided to warn him instead of simply moving it to Website Feedback.
3) To compound it, Kwark decided to throw a few unnecessary insults.
4) OP is now extremely incensed and posts this thread. Many users criticise the OP's snarky attitude but realise that many things have already happened. However, if the OP had instead adopted a better attitude, perhaps he would've won more sympathy and the issue gets resolved faster.
5) Kwark fans the flame:
The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter
6) Fortunately, a more level-headed admin (Plexa) steps in and diffuses the situation.
yes, but OP was being dumb and that kwark post was hilarious. I approve~
That's like clapping along to a schoolyard bully beating a nerd. Insults aren't funny to the person being insulted.
On October 05 2012 12:10 Azzur wrote: I've read through the whole post and pieced together a few things. I'm on the side of the OP and will say that Kwark stepped out of line:
1) OP makes a bad "first" post and got justifiably warned. Obviously, the stock warning message was in jest but in poor taste, especially if the user is new and didn't get it.
2) OP makes a post in General to complain: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373092#1 Reading through the post, I didn't find much mistake other than it was in the wrong forum. I don't really blame the OP since the Website Feedback link is right at the bottom and easy to miss. Kwark closed the thread decided to warn him instead of simply moving it to Website Feedback.
3) To compound it, Kwark decided to throw a few unnecessary insults.
4) OP is now extremely incensed and posts this thread. Many users criticise the OP's snarky attitude but realise that many things have already happened. However, if the OP had instead adopted a better attitude, perhaps he would've won more sympathy and the issue gets resolved faster.
5) Kwark fans the flame:
The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter
6) Fortunately, a more level-headed admin (Plexa) steps in and diffuses the situation.
yes, but OP was being dumb and that kwark post was hilarious. I approve~
That's like clapping along to a schoolyard bully beating a nerd. Insults aren't funny to the person being insulted.
Well, if the nerd was making some stupid comments to the schoolyard bully, yes I would probably clap along and say that he deserved it. Well, yeah but the insults sure are hilarious to everybody else.
On October 05 2012 12:10 Azzur wrote: I've read through the whole post and pieced together a few things. I'm on the side of the OP and will say that Kwark stepped out of line:
1) OP makes a bad "first" post and got justifiably warned. Obviously, the stock warning message was in jest but in poor taste, especially if the user is new and didn't get it.
2) OP makes a post in General to complain: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373092#1 Reading through the post, I didn't find much mistake other than it was in the wrong forum. I don't really blame the OP since the Website Feedback link is right at the bottom and easy to miss. Kwark closed the thread decided to warn him instead of simply moving it to Website Feedback.
3) To compound it, Kwark decided to throw a few unnecessary insults.
4) OP is now extremely incensed and posts this thread. Many users criticise the OP's snarky attitude but realise that many things have already happened. However, if the OP had instead adopted a better attitude, perhaps he would've won more sympathy and the issue gets resolved faster.
5) Kwark fans the flame:
The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter
6) Fortunately, a more level-headed admin (Plexa) steps in and diffuses the situation.
yes, but OP was being dumb and that kwark post was hilarious. I approve~
That's like clapping along to a schoolyard bully beating a nerd. Insults aren't funny to the person being insulted.
Well, if the nerd was making some stupid comments to the schoolyard bully, yes I would probably clap along and say that he deserved it. Well, yeah but the insults sure are hilarious to everybody else.
Well, I find several bans/warnings in your history. You saying "the insult are hilarious to everybody else" is in this regard hopefully not the overall TL stance.
Like I already said I don´t find the PM ok, while I know that it´s not meant insulting. Not everyone is ok with such things (and I personally don´t think KwarKs post in this topic was ok, a normal user would be warned/banned for sure. The "this is our house" has a limit imo).
I hope my overall post history indicates pro staff opinion, so this is not read as a simple "drama" post. And now go on for everyone not ok that OP says he´s not ok with being insulted.
That´s my feedback, what is done with it knowing that others disagree is up to staff.
The stock warning needs to be changed, in my opinion. While I, and most reasonable people, understand it perfectly fine and know not to overreact stupidly, there's still well-intending people who will be unaware of the no "First" post rule on TL (though it should be obvious based on the commandments) who just signed up. They get the stock warning, and either:
a) Assume it's been written out specifically for them, and take offense
b) Don't get the humor, or find it intimidating, and it discourages them from posting
Discouraging people from posting shouldn't be the desired effect of warnings; it should be to better their posting, or (in the more tame circumstances, such as this one) to just remind them/inform them to not make this specific type of post.
I think it an exaggeration to say that you're "disgusted" upon reading the stock warning, though. It seems awfully highbrow to have that be your standard, when you're on the internet.
On October 04 2012 01:56 KwarK wrote: The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter.
OP was tempting fate when he pm'ed you, but it appears you have lost some composure.
You even told him to take it to the Website Feedback, and now that he's called you out you're so fucking bitter
Well anyway, stock message is bad, OP is vengeful, Kwark is pretty pissed about the noise over a little issue.
On October 05 2012 12:10 Azzur wrote: I've read through the whole post and pieced together a few things. I'm on the side of the OP and will say that Kwark stepped out of line:
1) OP makes a bad "first" post and got justifiably warned. Obviously, the stock warning message was in jest but in poor taste, especially if the user is new and didn't get it.
2) OP makes a post in General to complain: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373092#1 Reading through the post, I didn't find much mistake other than it was in the wrong forum. I don't really blame the OP since the Website Feedback link is right at the bottom and easy to miss. Kwark closed the thread decided to warn him instead of simply moving it to Website Feedback.
3) To compound it, Kwark decided to throw a few unnecessary insults.
4) OP is now extremely incensed and posts this thread. Many users criticise the OP's snarky attitude but realise that many things have already happened. However, if the OP had instead adopted a better attitude, perhaps he would've won more sympathy and the issue gets resolved faster.
5) Kwark fans the flame:
The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter
6) Fortunately, a more level-headed admin (Plexa) steps in and diffuses the situation.
yes, but OP was being dumb and that kwark post was hilarious. I approve~
That's like clapping along to a schoolyard bully beating a nerd. Insults aren't funny to the person being insulted.
Well, if the nerd was making some stupid comments to the schoolyard bully, yes I would probably clap along and say that he deserved it. Well, yeah but the insults sure are hilarious to everybody else.
Well, I find several bans/warnings in your history. You saying "the insult are hilarious to everybody else" is in this regard hopefully not the overall TL stance.
Like I already said I don´t find the PM ok, while I know that it´s not meant insulting. Not everyone is ok with such things (and I personally don´t think KwarKs post in this topic was ok, a normal user would be warned/banned for sure. The "this is our house" has a limit imo).
I hope my overall post history indicates pro staff opinion, so this is not read as a simple "drama" post. And now go on for everyone not ok that OP says he´s not ok with being insulted.
That´s my feedback, what is done with it knowing that others disagree is up to staff.
I got banned/warned for being an idiot and for getting too deeply into arguments with other posters, and I'm fine with that because I learned every time what is regarded as shitty posting and what's acceptable. Maybe the OP also learns from KwarK/FakeSteve what is a shit post and what's not. And aren't you such a great example of a TL poster, never getting warned or banned once.
On October 05 2012 12:10 Azzur wrote: I've read through the whole post and pieced together a few things. I'm on the side of the OP and will say that Kwark stepped out of line:
1) OP makes a bad "first" post and got justifiably warned. Obviously, the stock warning message was in jest but in poor taste, especially if the user is new and didn't get it.
2) OP makes a post in General to complain: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373092#1 Reading through the post, I didn't find much mistake other than it was in the wrong forum. I don't really blame the OP since the Website Feedback link is right at the bottom and easy to miss. Kwark closed the thread decided to warn him instead of simply moving it to Website Feedback.
3) To compound it, Kwark decided to throw a few unnecessary insults.
4) OP is now extremely incensed and posts this thread. Many users criticise the OP's snarky attitude but realise that many things have already happened. However, if the OP had instead adopted a better attitude, perhaps he would've won more sympathy and the issue gets resolved faster.
5) Kwark fans the flame:
The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter
6) Fortunately, a more level-headed admin (Plexa) steps in and diffuses the situation.
yes, but OP was being dumb and that kwark post was hilarious. I approve~
That's like clapping along to a schoolyard bully beating a nerd. Insults aren't funny to the person being insulted.
Well, if the nerd was making some stupid comments to the schoolyard bully, yes I would probably clap along and say that he deserved it. Well, yeah but the insults sure are hilarious to everybody else.
Well, I find several bans/warnings in your history. You saying "the insult are hilarious to everybody else" is in this regard hopefully not the overall TL stance.
Like I already said I don´t find the PM ok, while I know that it´s not meant insulting. Not everyone is ok with such things (and I personally don´t think KwarKs post in this topic was ok, a normal user would be warned/banned for sure. The "this is our house" has a limit imo).
I hope my overall post history indicates pro staff opinion, so this is not read as a simple "drama" post. And now go on for everyone not ok that OP says he´s not ok with being insulted.
That´s my feedback, what is done with it knowing that others disagree is up to staff.
Wait, so just because you haven't had any mod history means your opinion somehow matter more than those of us who have? Lol...
Mega props to FakeSeve for that stock message and KwarK for that absolutely golden post.
On October 05 2012 12:10 Azzur wrote: I've read through the whole post and pieced together a few things. I'm on the side of the OP and will say that Kwark stepped out of line:
1) OP makes a bad "first" post and got justifiably warned. Obviously, the stock warning message was in jest but in poor taste, especially if the user is new and didn't get it.
2) OP makes a post in General to complain: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373092#1 Reading through the post, I didn't find much mistake other than it was in the wrong forum. I don't really blame the OP since the Website Feedback link is right at the bottom and easy to miss. Kwark closed the thread decided to warn him instead of simply moving it to Website Feedback.
3) To compound it, Kwark decided to throw a few unnecessary insults.
4) OP is now extremely incensed and posts this thread. Many users criticise the OP's snarky attitude but realise that many things have already happened. However, if the OP had instead adopted a better attitude, perhaps he would've won more sympathy and the issue gets resolved faster.
5) Kwark fans the flame:
The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter
6) Fortunately, a more level-headed admin (Plexa) steps in and diffuses the situation.
yes, but OP was being dumb and that kwark post was hilarious. I approve~
That's like clapping along to a schoolyard bully beating a nerd. Insults aren't funny to the person being insulted.
Well, if the nerd was making some stupid comments to the schoolyard bully, yes I would probably clap along and say that he deserved it. Well, yeah but the insults sure are hilarious to everybody else.
Well, I find several bans/warnings in your history. You saying "the insult are hilarious to everybody else" is in this regard hopefully not the overall TL stance.
Like I already said I don´t find the PM ok, while I know that it´s not meant insulting. Not everyone is ok with such things (and I personally don´t think KwarKs post in this topic was ok, a normal user would be warned/banned for sure. The "this is our house" has a limit imo).
I hope my overall post history indicates pro staff opinion, so this is not read as a simple "drama" post. And now go on for everyone not ok that OP says he´s not ok with being insulted.
That´s my feedback, what is done with it knowing that others disagree is up to staff.
Wait, so just because you haven't had any mod history means your opinion somehow matter more than those of us who have? Lol...
Mega props to FakeSeve for that stock message and KwarK for that absolutely golden post.
It actually does. Same as a person with no criminal offences is a better law-abiding citizen. When you're looking for role-models, you don't look at an ex-con, you look to the model citizen. And it's bloody scary to see people on TL of all places support insults (especially those based on comparisons with mentally challenged people).
On October 05 2012 12:10 Azzur wrote: I've read through the whole post and pieced together a few things. I'm on the side of the OP and will say that Kwark stepped out of line:
1) OP makes a bad "first" post and got justifiably warned. Obviously, the stock warning message was in jest but in poor taste, especially if the user is new and didn't get it.
2) OP makes a post in General to complain: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373092#1 Reading through the post, I didn't find much mistake other than it was in the wrong forum. I don't really blame the OP since the Website Feedback link is right at the bottom and easy to miss. Kwark closed the thread decided to warn him instead of simply moving it to Website Feedback.
3) To compound it, Kwark decided to throw a few unnecessary insults.
4) OP is now extremely incensed and posts this thread. Many users criticise the OP's snarky attitude but realise that many things have already happened. However, if the OP had instead adopted a better attitude, perhaps he would've won more sympathy and the issue gets resolved faster.
5) Kwark fans the flame:
The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter
6) Fortunately, a more level-headed admin (Plexa) steps in and diffuses the situation.
yes, but OP was being dumb and that kwark post was hilarious. I approve~
That's like clapping along to a schoolyard bully beating a nerd. Insults aren't funny to the person being insulted.
Well, if the nerd was making some stupid comments to the schoolyard bully, yes I would probably clap along and say that he deserved it. Well, yeah but the insults sure are hilarious to everybody else.
Well, I find several bans/warnings in your history. You saying "the insult are hilarious to everybody else" is in this regard hopefully not the overall TL stance.
Like I already said I don´t find the PM ok, while I know that it´s not meant insulting. Not everyone is ok with such things (and I personally don´t think KwarKs post in this topic was ok, a normal user would be warned/banned for sure. The "this is our house" has a limit imo).
I hope my overall post history indicates pro staff opinion, so this is not read as a simple "drama" post. And now go on for everyone not ok that OP says he´s not ok with being insulted.
That´s my feedback, what is done with it knowing that others disagree is up to staff.
Wait, so just because you haven't had any mod history means your opinion somehow matter more than those of us who have? Lol...
Mega props to FakeSeve for that stock message and KwarK for that absolutely golden post.
No, that´s not what I meant. It was meant as "I don´t try to jump on mods for little things and make drama, so this complainment is for me really an exception". The "post history" was more that I tried in my first 2 posts in here to tell the OP that he should not take it so serious and the stock message is not meant as insult.
I just don´t have a mod history because my posts are overall plain boring and I try my best not to get in any arguments, nothing to be proud of imo.
On October 05 2012 12:10 Azzur wrote: I've read through the whole post and pieced together a few things. I'm on the side of the OP and will say that Kwark stepped out of line:
1) OP makes a bad "first" post and got justifiably warned. Obviously, the stock warning message was in jest but in poor taste, especially if the user is new and didn't get it.
2) OP makes a post in General to complain: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373092#1 Reading through the post, I didn't find much mistake other than it was in the wrong forum. I don't really blame the OP since the Website Feedback link is right at the bottom and easy to miss. Kwark closed the thread decided to warn him instead of simply moving it to Website Feedback.
3) To compound it, Kwark decided to throw a few unnecessary insults.
4) OP is now extremely incensed and posts this thread. Many users criticise the OP's snarky attitude but realise that many things have already happened. However, if the OP had instead adopted a better attitude, perhaps he would've won more sympathy and the issue gets resolved faster.
5) Kwark fans the flame:
The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter
6) Fortunately, a more level-headed admin (Plexa) steps in and diffuses the situation.
yes, but OP was being dumb and that kwark post was hilarious. I approve~
That's like clapping along to a schoolyard bully beating a nerd. Insults aren't funny to the person being insulted.
Well, if the nerd was making some stupid comments to the schoolyard bully, yes I would probably clap along and say that he deserved it. Well, yeah but the insults sure are hilarious to everybody else.
Well, I find several bans/warnings in your history. You saying "the insult are hilarious to everybody else" is in this regard hopefully not the overall TL stance.
Like I already said I don´t find the PM ok, while I know that it´s not meant insulting. Not everyone is ok with such things (and I personally don´t think KwarKs post in this topic was ok, a normal user would be warned/banned for sure. The "this is our house" has a limit imo).
I hope my overall post history indicates pro staff opinion, so this is not read as a simple "drama" post. And now go on for everyone not ok that OP says he´s not ok with being insulted.
That´s my feedback, what is done with it knowing that others disagree is up to staff.
Wait, so just because you haven't had any mod history means your opinion somehow matter more than those of us who have? Lol...
Mega props to FakeSeve for that stock message and KwarK for that absolutely golden post.
It actually does. Same as a person with no criminal offences is a better law-abiding citizen. When you're looking for role-models, you don't look at an ex-con, you look to the model citizen. And it's bloody scary to see people on TL of all places support insults (especially those based on comparisons with mentally challenged people).
LOL I would love for you to tell Belial, avilo, IdrA, and InControl that their opinions matter less than people who haven't gotten banned before. How so? It's the internet...I thought people realized long ago that TL, like any other internet forum, does not approve of shitty posting, and people on TL aren't afraid to take stabs at those people who made said shitty posts. And please, stop being so sensitive...
1. New posters aren't always familiar with the rules, 'first' is something alot of sites have. 2. Apart from posting first, he added more into his post apart from that, which makes it a legit post. 3. Your bot message is horrible. You really want that to be the message that posters get when they post first? The only people who post First are newbies to the site. Good job insulting all new people in the site. 4. Kwark is an asshole. I could get his reactions from the screenshot and etc, but him coming into this post and saying what he does is retarded. If this was my site, that post on the first page would have gotten mod status removal.
Why dont you try being the better man Kwark? Since your the mod and all.
edit: Well, from the other pages, it seems TL is perfectly fine with Bad Humor and Insults. I guess ignore my post if thats the case. Glad i haven't ran across this Kwark guy before. Using 'hes british and blunt' as an excuse for being an asshole makes me laugh. Insults and partial Racism. GO TL
2nd edit: This guy from like page 2 or 3 got it right on the spot. OP is prolly dumb and stupid and flaming TL Mods, which is defintely wrong. But that doesn't mean the stock message is legit. Because like I said, only newbies post first (nobody does it after first warning generally). Dont insult your new people. + Show Spoiler +
I kinda skipped through the image because I thought op would just be overreacting to something Kwark did and would be blowing it out of proportion. But now that I've gone back and reread that message, it really is pretty bad imo. To send something like that to the op who, only for the reason of putting "first" in his post got that message is pretty harsh. Had he posted without the "first", he likely would not have been warned. But he didn't just say "first", he also put in his thoughts on the matter (in few words though). Other people, including myself, only wish to write maybe a single sentence or two to express ourselves without feeling the need to write out a whole paragraph.
I'm not sure if FakeSteve is telling the truth, but if that is the actual stock message, change it. That's terrible.
In this matter though, op should not have been so harshly warned. But also op should not have retaliated in such a vicious matter by insulting and generalizing the mods in this thread. Like Gene said, op has a point, but his senseless arguing is clouding everyone's judgement and shifting their favorable views toward the mods.
On October 05 2012 12:10 Azzur wrote: I've read through the whole post and pieced together a few things. I'm on the side of the OP and will say that Kwark stepped out of line:
1) OP makes a bad "first" post and got justifiably warned. Obviously, the stock warning message was in jest but in poor taste, especially if the user is new and didn't get it.
2) OP makes a post in General to complain: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373092#1 Reading through the post, I didn't find much mistake other than it was in the wrong forum. I don't really blame the OP since the Website Feedback link is right at the bottom and easy to miss. Kwark closed the thread decided to warn him instead of simply moving it to Website Feedback.
3) To compound it, Kwark decided to throw a few unnecessary insults.
4) OP is now extremely incensed and posts this thread. Many users criticise the OP's snarky attitude but realise that many things have already happened. However, if the OP had instead adopted a better attitude, perhaps he would've won more sympathy and the issue gets resolved faster.
5) Kwark fans the flame:
The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter
6) Fortunately, a more level-headed admin (Plexa) steps in and diffuses the situation.
yes, but OP was being dumb and that kwark post was hilarious. I approve~
That's like clapping along to a schoolyard bully beating a nerd. Insults aren't funny to the person being insulted.
Well, if the nerd was making some stupid comments to the schoolyard bully, yes I would probably clap along and say that he deserved it. Well, yeah but the insults sure are hilarious to everybody else.
Well, I find several bans/warnings in your history. You saying "the insult are hilarious to everybody else" is in this regard hopefully not the overall TL stance.
Like I already said I don´t find the PM ok, while I know that it´s not meant insulting. Not everyone is ok with such things (and I personally don´t think KwarKs post in this topic was ok, a normal user would be warned/banned for sure. The "this is our house" has a limit imo).
I hope my overall post history indicates pro staff opinion, so this is not read as a simple "drama" post. And now go on for everyone not ok that OP says he´s not ok with being insulted.
That´s my feedback, what is done with it knowing that others disagree is up to staff.
Wait, so just because you haven't had any mod history means your opinion somehow matter more than those of us who have? Lol...
Mega props to FakeSeve for that stock message and KwarK for that absolutely golden post.
It actually does. Same as a person with no criminal offences is a better law-abiding citizen. When you're looking for role-models, you don't look at an ex-con, you look to the model citizen. And it's bloody scary to see people on TL of all places support insults (especially those based on comparisons with mentally challenged people).
LOL I would love for you to tell Belial, avilo, IdrA, and InControl that their opinions matter less than people who haven't gotten banned before. How so? It's the internet...I thought people realized long ago that TL, like any other internet forum, does not approve of shitty posting, and people on TL aren't afraid to take stabs at those people who made said shitty posts. And please, stop being so sensitive...
You're missing the point. Despite being freakin' IdrA, he's gotten permabanned so many times. If he weren't the most famous western BW player and for a long time the best foreigner in SC2, he would already be banned. Us nobodies better not take him as a role model...
As for being sensitive, you couldn't be more in the wrong. You should become more sensitive. Not only are you advocating hurting other people's feelings, you're also insensitive to what would be a more efficient way to forward the goals of TL. Scaring away posters, and creating vicious messages is not the aim of the stock message. It was meant to educate, and it failed.
On October 05 2012 12:10 Azzur wrote: I've read through the whole post and pieced together a few things. I'm on the side of the OP and will say that Kwark stepped out of line:
1) OP makes a bad "first" post and got justifiably warned. Obviously, the stock warning message was in jest but in poor taste, especially if the user is new and didn't get it.
2) OP makes a post in General to complain: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373092#1 Reading through the post, I didn't find much mistake other than it was in the wrong forum. I don't really blame the OP since the Website Feedback link is right at the bottom and easy to miss. Kwark closed the thread decided to warn him instead of simply moving it to Website Feedback.
3) To compound it, Kwark decided to throw a few unnecessary insults.
4) OP is now extremely incensed and posts this thread. Many users criticise the OP's snarky attitude but realise that many things have already happened. However, if the OP had instead adopted a better attitude, perhaps he would've won more sympathy and the issue gets resolved faster.
5) Kwark fans the flame:
The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter
6) Fortunately, a more level-headed admin (Plexa) steps in and diffuses the situation.
yes, but OP was being dumb and that kwark post was hilarious. I approve~
That's like clapping along to a schoolyard bully beating a nerd. Insults aren't funny to the person being insulted.
Well, if the nerd was making some stupid comments to the schoolyard bully, yes I would probably clap along and say that he deserved it. Well, yeah but the insults sure are hilarious to everybody else.
Well, I find several bans/warnings in your history. You saying "the insult are hilarious to everybody else" is in this regard hopefully not the overall TL stance.
Like I already said I don´t find the PM ok, while I know that it´s not meant insulting. Not everyone is ok with such things (and I personally don´t think KwarKs post in this topic was ok, a normal user would be warned/banned for sure. The "this is our house" has a limit imo).
I hope my overall post history indicates pro staff opinion, so this is not read as a simple "drama" post. And now go on for everyone not ok that OP says he´s not ok with being insulted.
That´s my feedback, what is done with it knowing that others disagree is up to staff.
Wait, so just because you haven't had any mod history means your opinion somehow matter more than those of us who have? Lol...
Mega props to FakeSeve for that stock message and KwarK for that absolutely golden post.
It actually does. Same as a person with no criminal offences is a better law-abiding citizen. When you're looking for role-models, you don't look at an ex-con, you look to the model citizen. And it's bloody scary to see people on TL of all places support insults (especially those based on comparisons with mentally challenged people).
LOL I would love for you to tell Belial, avilo, IdrA, and InControl that their opinions matter less than people who haven't gotten banned before. How so? It's the internet...I thought people realized long ago that TL, like any other internet forum, does not approve of shitty posting, and people on TL aren't afraid to take stabs at those people who made said shitty posts. And please, stop being so sensitive...
You're missing the point. Despite being freakin' IdrA, he's gotten permabanned so many times. If he weren't the most famous western BW player and for a long time the best foreigner in SC2, he would already be banned. Us nobodies better not take him as a role model...
As for being sensitive, you couldn't be more in the wrong. You should become more sensitive. Not only are you advocating hurting other people's feelings, you're also insensitive to what would be a more efficient way to forward the goals of TL. Scaring away posters, and creating vicious messages is not the aim of the stock message. It was meant to educate, and it failed.
I would also like to point out that OP isn't exactly what you would call a "new member". He's been around since april, and he has made posts previous to that one. I don't understand, are you saying that the internet, and the real world in general, is a sensitive place? TL is very down to earth. Was the message vicious? Yes. Was it deserved? Yes.
This thread is really turning into a discussion over whether or not the stock message was deserved. Obviously, I think it is deserved, because the OP made a stupid post, and it wasn't even his first post. But this whole discussion over whether or not FakeSteve/KwarK's stock message was warranted, at least to me, is not going to be solved by this thread, since it's the Internet. So I really don't see the point of me continuing to post and debate in this thread...
On October 05 2012 12:10 Azzur wrote: I've read through the whole post and pieced together a few things. I'm on the side of the OP and will say that Kwark stepped out of line:
1) OP makes a bad "first" post and got justifiably warned. Obviously, the stock warning message was in jest but in poor taste, especially if the user is new and didn't get it.
2) OP makes a post in General to complain: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373092#1 Reading through the post, I didn't find much mistake other than it was in the wrong forum. I don't really blame the OP since the Website Feedback link is right at the bottom and easy to miss. Kwark closed the thread decided to warn him instead of simply moving it to Website Feedback.
3) To compound it, Kwark decided to throw a few unnecessary insults.
4) OP is now extremely incensed and posts this thread. Many users criticise the OP's snarky attitude but realise that many things have already happened. However, if the OP had instead adopted a better attitude, perhaps he would've won more sympathy and the issue gets resolved faster.
5) Kwark fans the flame: [quote] 6) Fortunately, a more level-headed admin (Plexa) steps in and diffuses the situation.
yes, but OP was being dumb and that kwark post was hilarious. I approve~
That's like clapping along to a schoolyard bully beating a nerd. Insults aren't funny to the person being insulted.
Well, if the nerd was making some stupid comments to the schoolyard bully, yes I would probably clap along and say that he deserved it. Well, yeah but the insults sure are hilarious to everybody else.
Well, I find several bans/warnings in your history. You saying "the insult are hilarious to everybody else" is in this regard hopefully not the overall TL stance.
Like I already said I don´t find the PM ok, while I know that it´s not meant insulting. Not everyone is ok with such things (and I personally don´t think KwarKs post in this topic was ok, a normal user would be warned/banned for sure. The "this is our house" has a limit imo).
I hope my overall post history indicates pro staff opinion, so this is not read as a simple "drama" post. And now go on for everyone not ok that OP says he´s not ok with being insulted.
That´s my feedback, what is done with it knowing that others disagree is up to staff.
Wait, so just because you haven't had any mod history means your opinion somehow matter more than those of us who have? Lol...
Mega props to FakeSeve for that stock message and KwarK for that absolutely golden post.
It actually does. Same as a person with no criminal offences is a better law-abiding citizen. When you're looking for role-models, you don't look at an ex-con, you look to the model citizen. And it's bloody scary to see people on TL of all places support insults (especially those based on comparisons with mentally challenged people).
LOL I would love for you to tell Belial, avilo, IdrA, and InControl that their opinions matter less than people who haven't gotten banned before. How so? It's the internet...I thought people realized long ago that TL, like any other internet forum, does not approve of shitty posting, and people on TL aren't afraid to take stabs at those people who made said shitty posts. And please, stop being so sensitive...
You're missing the point. Despite being freakin' IdrA, he's gotten permabanned so many times. If he weren't the most famous western BW player and for a long time the best foreigner in SC2, he would already be banned. Us nobodies better not take him as a role model...
As for being sensitive, you couldn't be more in the wrong. You should become more sensitive. Not only are you advocating hurting other people's feelings, you're also insensitive to what would be a more efficient way to forward the goals of TL. Scaring away posters, and creating vicious messages is not the aim of the stock message. It was meant to educate, and it failed.
I would also like to point out that OP isn't exactly what you would call a "new member". He's been around since april, and he has made posts previous to that one. I don't understand, are you saying that the internet, and the real world in general, is a sensitive place? TL is very down to earth. Was the message vicious? Yes. Was it deserved? Yes.
Haha. I guess the definition of new is very subjective
On October 07 2012 05:00 Whatson wrote: This thread is really turning into a discussion over whether or not the stock message was deserved. Obviously, I think it is deserved, because the OP made a stupid post, and it wasn't even his first post. But this whole discussion over whether or not FakeSteve/KwarK's stock message was warranted, at least to me, is not going to be solved by this thread, since it's the Internet. So I really don't see the point of me continuing to post and debate in this thread...
How is that even an argument?! O.o
It's the same as saying that killing babies is good because we breathe air, or homosexuality is evil because human nature. That's just not enough. There are good reasons why the stock message, despite a warning being warranted, is considered unacceptable - it was insulting and inefficient towards its purpose.
On October 07 2012 05:00 Whatson wrote: This thread is really turning into a discussion over whether or not the stock message was deserved. Obviously, I think it is deserved, because the OP made a stupid post, and it wasn't even his first post. But this whole discussion over whether or not FakeSteve/KwarK's stock message was warranted, at least to me, is not going to be solved by this thread, since it's the Internet. So I really don't see the point of me continuing to post and debate in this thread...
How is that even an argument?! O.o
It's the same as saying that killing babies is good because we breathe air, or homosexuality is evil because human nature. That's just not enough. There are good reasons why the stock message, despite a warning being warranted, is considered unacceptable - it was insulting and inefficient towards its purpose.
It's the Internet...It's a bunch of faceless people getting into arguments that have no purpose because you're not going to change other people's opinions, so there is really no point in debating or arguing over it, since I think he already stated his point of view and why he believes that opinion is correct. I think I'm out too lol, I've already made my opinion clear, and sorry to say, there's nothing you can do to change that opinion. Welcome to the Internet.
On October 07 2012 05:00 Whatson wrote: This thread is really turning into a discussion over whether or not the stock message was deserved. Obviously, I think it is deserved, because the OP made a stupid post, and it wasn't even his first post. But this whole discussion over whether or not FakeSteve/KwarK's stock message was warranted, at least to me, is not going to be solved by this thread, since it's the Internet. So I really don't see the point of me continuing to post and debate in this thread...
How is that even an argument?! O.o
It's the same as saying that killing babies is good because we breathe air, or homosexuality is evil because human nature. That's just not enough. There are good reasons why the stock message, despite a warning being warranted, is considered unacceptable - it was insulting and inefficient towards its purpose.
It's the Internet...It's a bunch of faceless people getting into arguments that have no purpose because you're not going to change other people's opinions, so there is really no point in debating or arguing over it, since I think he already stated his point of view and why he believes that opinion is correct. I think I'm out too lol, I've already made my opinion clear, and sorry to say, there's nothing you can do to change that opinion. Welcome to the Internet.
The funny thing is, the formulation you provide is not about the internet. It's from Robert Nozick's introduction to metaphysics where he says that when a philosopher makes an argument, no matter how good and compelling, there is nothing she or he can do about a person saying: "Nananananaaaa, I'm not listening." People choose to do so everywhere, not just on the internet, but those are not the people that you would want to take as a role model either.
'Fist' is something that is big in alot of forum communities. This person may not be new, but most offenders are new people to TL. I dont believe that stock message is a good message to give to a new member to TL. Im not sure why this is hard to understand. Dont shit on your new members.
You realise the stock message had absolutely nothing to do with me. I didn't write it and I didn't send it to him. The part where I got involved was when he decided to make a topic in the general forum whining about it and ended it with "am I stupid?" at which point I felt my honest opinion on the matter was pertinent. After he made a second topic, this time whining about me answering his question it amused me to tease him further. Also I don't recall ever making the argument that I'm allowed to tease people because I'm British and that somehow makes me automatically rude so it's just my nature. That's a very strange accusation to call me out on.
On October 07 2012 23:37 KwarK wrote: You realise the stock message had absolutely nothing to do with me. I didn't write it and I didn't send it to him. The part where I got involved was when he decided to make a topic in the general forum whining about it and ended it with "am I stupid?" at which point I felt my honest opinion on the matter was pertinent. After he made a second topic, this time whining about me answering his question it amused me to tease him further. Also I don't recall ever making the argument that I'm allowed to tease people because I'm British and that somehow makes me automatically rude so it's just my nature. That's a very strange accusation to call me out on.
He was writing in response to Myles:
On October 04 2012 00:51 Myles wrote: It is a stock message that wasn't created just for you. And yea, Kwark is British and comes off quite rude sometimes.
Also, calling a mod dumbfuck probably isn't the best way to go about this.
Let me translate your response.
my honest opinion on the matter was pertinent.
"I felt like seizing the opportunity and teasing him by calling him stupid."
And you reinforce that you were teasing him by saying:
it amused me to tease him further.
You didn't justify this at all, even in your last post. How on earth can you justify teasing someone whose feelings were hurt (whether your own feelings would have been hurt in that situation or not), just because it "amuses you". That makes you sound like a bloody horrible human being.
On October 05 2012 12:10 Azzur wrote: I've read through the whole post and pieced together a few things. I'm on the side of the OP and will say that Kwark stepped out of line:
1) OP makes a bad "first" post and got justifiably warned. Obviously, the stock warning message was in jest but in poor taste, especially if the user is new and didn't get it.
2) OP makes a post in General to complain: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373092#1 Reading through the post, I didn't find much mistake other than it was in the wrong forum. I don't really blame the OP since the Website Feedback link is right at the bottom and easy to miss. Kwark closed the thread decided to warn him instead of simply moving it to Website Feedback.
3) To compound it, Kwark decided to throw a few unnecessary insults.
4) OP is now extremely incensed and posts this thread. Many users criticise the OP's snarky attitude but realise that many things have already happened. However, if the OP had instead adopted a better attitude, perhaps he would've won more sympathy and the issue gets resolved faster.
5) Kwark fans the flame:
The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter
6) Fortunately, a more level-headed admin (Plexa) steps in and diffuses the situation.
yes, but OP was being dumb and that kwark post was hilarious. I approve~
That's like clapping along to a schoolyard bully beating a nerd. Insults aren't funny to the person being insulted.
Well, if the nerd was making some stupid comments to the schoolyard bully, yes I would probably clap along and say that he deserved it. Well, yeah but the insults sure are hilarious to everybody else.
Well, I find several bans/warnings in your history. You saying "the insult are hilarious to everybody else" is in this regard hopefully not the overall TL stance.
Like I already said I don´t find the PM ok, while I know that it´s not meant insulting. Not everyone is ok with such things (and I personally don´t think KwarKs post in this topic was ok, a normal user would be warned/banned for sure. The "this is our house" has a limit imo).
I hope my overall post history indicates pro staff opinion, so this is not read as a simple "drama" post. And now go on for everyone not ok that OP says he´s not ok with being insulted.
That´s my feedback, what is done with it knowing that others disagree is up to staff.
Wait, so just because you haven't had any mod history means your opinion somehow matter more than those of us who have? Lol...
Mega props to FakeSeve for that stock message and KwarK for that absolutely golden post.
It actually does. Same as a person with no criminal offences is a better law-abiding citizen. When you're looking for role-models, you don't look at an ex-con, you look to the model citizen. And it's bloody scary to see people on TL of all places support insults (especially those based on comparisons with mentally challenged people).
I have a warning message named after me. Do I get bonus points?
On October 08 2012 03:54 ranjutan wrote: Man why is everyone so serious about everything these days? Was there ever a time when jokes were OK, or is that just my Internet Nostalgia?
People have such thin skins when it comes to being insulted on the internet sometimes, amuses me to no end.
"Hello poster, I'm really really sorry to bother you with this PM. It is our intent at TL to never force anyone to click something they don't want to, so I can understand how intimidating and scary this PM might be. I'll try not to take too much of your time, because I know how busy you are, especially compared to me, a lowly forum moderator. Here on TL we'd like to ask that you don't post "first", or similar low-content posts. Not that your posts are low-content! You are a valued and special member of our community! But please don't post "first" again. If that's okay. Your call.
I like that new stock message, it really reflects that the new members are delicate snowflakes and must be treated with the utmost care so that they don't get their feelings hurt. We wouldn't want them to be offended *gasp*. I don't think it goes far enough though. As well all know, being warned or banned is the most traumatizing thing that any new TL member can experience, so to prevent any of the snowflakes from being hurt in the slightest, I propose that any new TL member be exempt from any of those harsh commandments for their first six months of posting, so they can gradually ease into our little community.
I mean really, if we slap down people who make terrible posts, how will we ever get any quality community members? Checkmate, TL mods.
On October 08 2012 09:55 Mandini wrote: I like that new stock message, it really reflects that the new members are delicate snowflakes and must be treated with the utmost care so that they don't get their feelings hurt. We wouldn't want them to be offended *gasp*. I don't think it goes far enough though. As well all know, being warned or banned is the most traumatizing thing that any new TL member can experience, so to prevent any of the snowflakes from being hurt in the slightest, I propose that any new TL member be exempt from any of those harsh commandments for their first six months of posting, so they can gradually ease into our little community.
I mean really, if we slap down people who make terrible posts, how will we ever get any quality community members? Checkmate, TL mods.
because there are only extremes and no middle ground?
On October 08 2012 07:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: revised edition:
"Hello poster, I'm really really sorry to bother you with this PM. It is our intent at TL to never force anyone to click something they don't want to, so I can understand how intimidating and scary this PM might be. I'll try not to take too much of your time, because I know how busy you are, especially compared to me, a lowly forum moderator. Here on TL we'd like to ask that you don't post "first", or similar low-content posts. Not that your posts are low-content! You are a valued and special member of our community! But please don't post "first" again. If that's okay. Your call.
On October 04 2012 05:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: lolol that was the only 'stock message' i contributed, i suppose the humor is outdated now, but LOOOOL all the same
cough cough, i mean yes. standard warning message. completely standard.
On October 08 2012 07:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: revised edition:
"Hello poster, I'm really really sorry to bother you with this PM. It is our intent at TL to never force anyone to click something they don't want to, so I can understand how intimidating and scary this PM might be. I'll try not to take too much of your time, because I know how busy you are, especially compared to me, a lowly forum moderator. Here on TL we'd like to ask that you don't post "first", or similar low-content posts. Not that your posts are low-content! You are a valued and special member of our community! But please don't post "first" again. If that's okay. Your call.
On October 08 2012 07:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: revised edition:
"Hello poster, I'm really really sorry to bother you with this PM. It is our intent at TL to never force anyone to click something they don't want to, so I can understand how intimidating and scary this PM might be. I'll try not to take too much of your time, because I know how busy you are, especially compared to me, a lowly forum moderator. Here on TL we'd like to ask that you don't post "first", or similar low-content posts. Not that your posts are low-content! You are a valued and special member of our community! But please don't post "first" again. If that's okay. Your call.
Some mods are insulting for whatever reason (maybe because this be the interwebs and that's just how it goes), and it doesn't quite jive with the "high standards" and other stuff TLers pat themselves on the back for, but honestly, whatever. If your warning or ban PM is insulting to you, well, it's just some guy who you will almost certainly never ever ever meet, and it's just pixels on a screen. It says more about your own need for approval from others than about their manners or lack thereof if you get into as big a snit about it as HanClan did.
I get that Deep. You make good points. For instance, im of the opinion that OP does indeed seem to be 'unintelligent' and 'as much as an asshole as Kwark'. But some of us really just have bigger goals.
Mine for instance: Grow SC2 and Dota into the largest esports possible. The stock message completely negates that. And most of the converstation in this thread is constant belittling. As you said, multiple mods seem to clash with the standards that TL calls itself.
My only real qualm in all of this was the stock message. Why? Because its common sense to no that regardless if this poster is new, most people who post 'first' are brand new to the site. There is no reason to flame them as bad as that. And with as large as that message is, alot of random internet users wont know its just a generated message, they will think that somebody created that just for them (yes i know common sense shows its from a bot, but most people dont use common sense). I am not for dissing newcomers to this site. This site is really the only site that can help grow SC2 beyond what it is, so treating newcomers correctly is good.
I understand the canadian guy's 'fake change' was really just trolling and demeaning (again so many mods seem to be this way, why tl?), but id rather it be that then what it currently is. At least most people will catch the humor in the second one, as opposed to the first one.
Example: if a person comes on to this site with adblock, it says at the top to stop hurting esports. Your message directly contributes to hurting esports. Sorry for wall of text and numerous postings
Dear KwarK and Fakesteve. You're clearly both far too mean of individuals. I offer the "JingleHell Sensitivity Awareness Course". We include such fan favorite classes as "How not to post like JingleHell", "Four paragraphs of Four Letter Words", and "Censored Because my Mod History is Already Red Enough".
On October 04 2012 01:56 KwarK wrote: The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter.
Kwark, seriously dood, you've crossed the line of shitting on a user (which your shiny red hammer totally gives you every right to do) and started talking shit about his mother. Stay classy, but please reconsider just how far you and your keyboard of justice are willing to go to get your point across. Insulting someone's mom in your attempt to make them look and feel stupid, is.... + Show Spoiler +
not cool
.
Edit: I really love TL, despite my many many many disagreements with the popular majority on a variety of issues. But, its really hard to take Kwark serious when he acts out in this way. One second he is banning someone for being insensitive and "homophobic" because a poster used the word prancing to describe a gay man's movements. The next minute he's showcasing his own sensitivity by accusing a woman he's never met of subjecting her unborn child to so much alcohol that he could be diagnosed with Foetal Alcohol Syndrome. mind=blown
On October 04 2012 01:56 KwarK wrote: The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter.
Kwark, seriously dood, you've crossed the line of shitting on a user (which your shiny red hammer totally gives you every right to do) and started talking shit about his mother. Stay classy, but please reconsider just how far you and your keyboard of justice are willing to go to get your point across. Insulting someone's mom in your attempt to make them look and feel stupid, is.... + Show Spoiler +
not cool
.
Edit: I really love TL, despite my many many many disagreements with the popular majority on a variety of issues. But, its really hard to take Kwark serious when he acts out in this way. One second he is banning someone for being insensitive and "homophobic" because a poster used the word prancing to describe a gay man's movements. The next minute he's showcasing his own sensitivity by accusing a woman he's never met of subjecting her unborn child to so much alcohol that he could be diagnosed with Foetal Alcohol Syndrome. mind=blown
No part of my post was meant to make him feel stupid. I was not trying to lay out a logical argument which he would read, reassess his life and suddenly go "holy shit! maybe I am stupid?!?". He responded to being told not to post badly by making a bad topic in the wrong forum and ending it "am I being stupid?" and then when I said yes he got super offended. I was teasing his massive overreaction to that comment. It should be apparent from the context that I don't actually know his mother, nor his medical history, and any diagnosis that I offer is probably not meant to be taken literally. Hopefully that clears things up for you although to be honest unless there is some kind of handicap going on which I won't speculate about it should have been really obvious.
On October 04 2012 01:56 KwarK wrote: The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter.
Kwark, seriously dood, you've crossed the line of shitting on a user (which your shiny red hammer totally gives you every right to do) and started talking shit about his mother. Stay classy, but please reconsider just how far you and your keyboard of justice are willing to go to get your point across. Insulting someone's mom in your attempt to make them look and feel stupid, is.... + Show Spoiler +
not cool
.
Edit: I really love TL, despite my many many many disagreements with the popular majority on a variety of issues. But, its really hard to take Kwark serious when he acts out in this way. One second he is banning someone for being insensitive and "homophobic" because a poster used the word prancing to describe a gay man's movements. The next minute he's showcasing his own sensitivity by accusing a woman he's never met of subjecting her unborn child to so much alcohol that he could be diagnosed with Foetal Alcohol Syndrome. mind=blown
No part of my post was meant to make him feel stupid. I was not trying to lay out a logical argument which he would read, reassess his life and suddenly go "holy shit! maybe I am stupid?!?". He responded to being told not to post badly by making a bad topic in the wrong forum and ending it "am I being stupid?" and then when I said yes he got super offended. I was teasing his massive overreaction to that comment. It should be apparent from the context that I don't actually know his mother, nor his medical history, and any diagnosis that I offer is probably not meant to be taken literally. Hopefully that clears things up for you although to be honest unless there is some kind of handicap going on which I won't speculate about it should have been really obvious.
I agree that in a "normal" situation it would be easier to pass off. But one thing I've noticed on TL is that everyone gives a lot of weight to history. Sometimes, there are posts that might be just towing the line and passable for some posters. Other times, a poster has such a long history of douche baggery that the same post might warrant a ban. You've probably seen this applied more times than I have and understand what I'm talking about here.
So, I know you know what I mean when I say that given your history of incredibly offensive posts and just generally pissing people off (needlessly a lot of the time) that umm... how to put it nicely.... "mean" comments coming from you are hard to pass off as just a joke.
You say that your post wasn't meant to make him feel stupid, but you insinuate that he's dumb 6 times, twice due to shoddy parenting. Who are we kidding here? Let's just call a spade a spade. I assure you, I'm not as dumb as I look so please kind sir, don't piss on my head and tell me its raining.
On October 04 2012 01:56 KwarK wrote: The post you got warned for ended "Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"
The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.
You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.
I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter.
Kwark, seriously dood, you've crossed the line of shitting on a user (which your shiny red hammer totally gives you every right to do) and started talking shit about his mother. Stay classy, but please reconsider just how far you and your keyboard of justice are willing to go to get your point across. Insulting someone's mom in your attempt to make them look and feel stupid, is.... + Show Spoiler +
not cool
.
Edit: I really love TL, despite my many many many disagreements with the popular majority on a variety of issues. But, its really hard to take Kwark serious when he acts out in this way. One second he is banning someone for being insensitive and "homophobic" because a poster used the word prancing to describe a gay man's movements. The next minute he's showcasing his own sensitivity by accusing a woman he's never met of subjecting her unborn child to so much alcohol that he could be diagnosed with Foetal Alcohol Syndrome. mind=blown
No part of my post was meant to make him feel stupid. I was not trying to lay out a logical argument which he would read, reassess his life and suddenly go "holy shit! maybe I am stupid?!?". He responded to being told not to post badly by making a bad topic in the wrong forum and ending it "am I being stupid?" and then when I said yes he got super offended. I was teasing his massive overreaction to that comment. It should be apparent from the context that I don't actually know his mother, nor his medical history, and any diagnosis that I offer is probably not meant to be taken literally. Hopefully that clears things up for you although to be honest unless there is some kind of handicap going on which I won't speculate about it should have been really obvious.
SenorChang is right, this thread is "free insults by Kwark". Even if they are via apophasis.
I think KwarK is actually just egging this thread on in an effort to set a new all-staff record for length of threads complaining about him personally, that aren't on reddit.
On October 04 2012 00:59 Kiante wrote: if this site is so stupid and run by stupid people why are you still here? There are other places to get your stream list (twitch.tv, that stream aggregator thing that dude on reddit made i cant think of right now), and other places to find posts (reddit, gosugamers, 4chan). You posted first and got hit by the bot and now you've opened two thread about how mad you are? Lol?
also
"You were shitposting, got a warning for it and seem confused by the situation. Don't shitpost. Also don't make shitty topics"
Thanks KwarK. Seems like you are the real one who is fucking confused by the situation. Learn how to use better words than "Shitty" and "Stupid"
i mean come on, he didn't even say stupid.
Oh do you want me to put another screen shot where he says stupid?
and maybe you didn't read well? "When the site itself is full of good posts and streams"
I said the site is good but the some people who run is not ^^
User was warned for this post
Oh wow. I saw that gigantic warning about posting "FIRST" a while ago in the automated ban thread. Got a good laugh out of it, considering it's a silly mistake that nonetheless manages to cause thousands of bans. Almost as bad as not reading the mod note at the top of the thread, really. Is that an automatic response, or did someone just decide to reuse the joke? Because if it's the former, mad props to TL. That response is fucking hilarious. Surprised he didn't get the joke, though. The thing practically screamed "I'm pulling your leg and you're a dumbass if you think otherwise". EDIT: Oh wow. It is the stock message, made by FakeSteve, no less.
See, TL wasn't always uptight with a stick up it's ass. In the heydey of ballers like FakeSteve there was room for things like absurd humor and ridiculous shit posting and insults. Then one day Beyonder was all like "hey I'm gonna ban this chibi pedo faggot because this place should have a stick up it's ass." And the TL ship changed direction and now we are all posting in some pretentious elitist Ritz-Carlton forum where we are always supposed to be manner and calm and drink our tea with our pinky out.
So anyway, some new poster walks into this Ritz-Carlton forum and he's like enjoying his meal and shit and the butler walks up to him and asks if he'd like anymore truffle caviar on his escargot, when all of a sudden some FakeSteve maniac bursts out of the bathroom with his pants around his ankles and toilet paper stuck to his foot AND head and he starts waving a fork in the air and screaming about tearing somebody's eyeballs out and having sex with his grandmother. And all the waiters facepalm and say "oh shit now we got to explain this" but one of the waiters was all like, NO, NO, fuck this guy if you can't handle our past of killing kittens and burying them behind the childrens hospital then fuck off!
Then all the other guests are like "WTF just happened, and some of them storm out and some of them clap and some have a fucking category 5 aneurism and go make a blog post about it (fucker) and then eventually I track down this thread and make a post explaining it all to everyone cuz I got the inside scoop.
I get the impression that, due to missing the core of the joke (me telling people about sensitivity is a laugh), you tried to take the blog seriously in a way it was never intended to be.
On October 10 2012 05:01 JingleHell wrote: I get the impression that, due to missing the core of the joke (me telling people about sensitivity is a laugh), you tried to take the blog seriously in a way it was never intended to be.
That can most certainly be disastrous.
I don't think it's possible for anyone to take that blog post seriously. Are you taking my above post seriously?
On October 10 2012 05:01 JingleHell wrote: I get the impression that, due to missing the core of the joke (me telling people about sensitivity is a laugh), you tried to take the blog seriously in a way it was never intended to be.
That can most certainly be disastrous.
I don't think it's possible for anyone to take that blog post seriously. Are you taking my above post seriously?
Given that you took a reference to the blog elsewhere, it's not unreasonable to assume a level of offense might have been taken.
On October 10 2012 05:01 JingleHell wrote: I get the impression that, due to missing the core of the joke (me telling people about sensitivity is a laugh), you tried to take the blog seriously in a way it was never intended to be.
That can most certainly be disastrous.
I don't think it's possible for anyone to take that blog post seriously. Are you taking my above post seriously?
It should be taken seriously. It explains everything.
On October 10 2012 05:01 JingleHell wrote: I get the impression that, due to missing the core of the joke (me telling people about sensitivity is a laugh), you tried to take the blog seriously in a way it was never intended to be.
That can most certainly be disastrous.
I don't think it's possible for anyone to take that blog post seriously. Are you taking my above post seriously?
Given that you took a reference to the blog elsewhere, it's not unreasonable to assume a level of offense might have been taken.
Ah... wait a minute. I see what's going on here.
So, if you want to find out if someone is a dumbass, just misinterpret everything they say for a few days. If they start getting all bitchy with you, they're a dumbass. At that point, you should, very politely, say "I'm sorry you're so fucking stupid, but can you please shut the fuck up so my brain cells don't keep trying to run in terror?"
Well played sir, but I am agile like a cat. My friends call me whiskers.
You know rather than having that text stock message. THIS should be the stock message. I think the serious intent (no +first) and the joke would be much more understandable. I'm way too boring/Ritz-Carlton to use the text stock message, but I could definitely send them a song. haha.
The odd thing about this thread to me is that Team Liquid forums are the first place I ever got active on a forum. I learned what the whole "first" thing was on TL, and recieived a warning about it when I was actually first once. The warning was just "please don't do the 'first' thing on TL." So then I see this, this is hilariously better IMO, but I would have missed the point for laughter. It really is like I saw someone gloating over snatching the first peice of bread at the start of a ritz banquet and was warned by my table's host when I did likewise, then seeing it happen across the room except this time the guy who is still shitting runs out and screams threats and insults at him followed by the rest of jd's scenario.
Then one of the guests bursts out a guitar and records an awesome little ditty about it.
And then a host comes and says that ditty would make a nice warning for future offenders...
Actually this thread is a pretty good example of how awesome TL can be.
I am in a really good mood too. Sort of bemused by this thread.
OT:
From what I can tell KwarK is great and can lose his patience like anyone else.
On October 12 2012 06:22 Jrocker152 wrote: The odd thing about this thread to me is that Team Liquid forums are the first place I ever got active on a forum. I learned what the whole "first" thing was on TL, and recieived a warning about it when I was actually first once. The warning was just "please don't do the 'first' thing on TL." So then I see this, this is hilariously better IMO, but I would have missed the point for laughter. It really is like I saw someone gloating over snatching the first peice of bread at the start of a ritz banquet and was warned by my table's host when I did likewise, then seeing it happen across the room except this time the guy who is still shitting runs out and screams threats and insults at him followed by the rest of jd's scenario.
Then one of the guests bursts out a guitar and records an awesome little ditty about it.
And then a host comes and says that ditty would make a nice warning for future offenders...
Actually this thread is a pretty good example of how awesome TL can be.
I am in a really good mood too. Sort of bemused by this thread.
OT:
From what I can tell KwarK is great and can lose his patience like anyone else.
be·muse (b-myz) tr.v. be·mused, be·mus·ing, be·mus·es 1. To cause to be bewildered; confuse. 2. To cause to be engrossed in thought.
Also, that bot message is harsh. Also, KwarK hasn't been his best in his thread. He has acted like a cop having a bad day.
On October 12 2012 06:22 Jrocker152 wrote: The odd thing about this thread to me is that Team Liquid forums are the first place I ever got active on a forum. I learned what the whole "first" thing was on TL, and recieived a warning about it when I was actually first once. The warning was just "please don't do the 'first' thing on TL." So then I see this, this is hilariously better IMO, but I would have missed the point for laughter. It really is like I saw someone gloating over snatching the first peice of bread at the start of a ritz banquet and was warned by my table's host when I did likewise, then seeing it happen across the room except this time the guy who is still shitting runs out and screams threats and insults at him followed by the rest of jd's scenario.
Then one of the guests bursts out a guitar and records an awesome little ditty about it.
And then a host comes and says that ditty would make a nice warning for future offenders...
Actually this thread is a pretty good example of how awesome TL can be.
I am in a really good mood too. Sort of bemused by this thread.
OT:
From what I can tell KwarK is great and can lose his patience like anyone else.
be·muse (b-myz) tr.v. be·mused, be·mus·ing, be·mus·es 1. To cause to be bewildered; confuse. 2. To cause to be engrossed in thought.
Also, that bot message is harsh. Also, KwarK hasn't been his best in his thread. He has acted like a cop having a bad day.
Exactly. (And see nested quote...)
Yes the bot message is harsh, so much so that it is clearly not serious and yet serious.
But the whole thing is, as you defined, confusing! How did I come across as using bemused? Like amused? Well, that may also be true but would be redundantly redundant, and full of redundancy. But you are in understandable redundancy as I was already being redundantly redundant- with some redundancy involved. So thank you for making clear my meaning with clarity, as I may have been confusing and bemusing to the amused and entertained reader.
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