Featured Streamer List - Page 15

On November 02 2011 14:43 Peas wrote:
I cant help but to assume there are some politics involved.

On November 02 2011 15:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
Why is inKa refeatured? I understand the reasons are confidential, but you have someone with significantly less achievements [in comparison] (was previously with EG, then went to Lz and then QxG where he achieved the same as he did back with EG), same number of viewers (220 I believe is the number he achieves, by all means correct me) and about the same level of notoriety but he gets (re)featured?

Is it because he asked his Twitter followers to spam the boards begging him to be refeatured (good for them, really loyal!)? I don't understand now and I'm really confused. We have three Montreal Protoss players: one who doesn't really talk to us (kiwikaki), TT1 who's now teamless and equally as uncommunicative and the underdog who practices and beats both consistently: Attero. One's teamless, one's going to WCG Korea and one is retiring considering he can no longer make a living off his passion (which he was doing marginally before).

I'm not angry, just heavily disappointed and discouraged. He offered all the key points except he didn't draw in the traffic TL is looking for (which is coincidentally the same numbers some other featured people have been drawing in all day today [not necessarily a fair comparison, but it's to set a point]).

Ugh. No, he's not on a majorly famed team (unless you consider CS: S a very important game, in which case, he's on the arguably best CS: S team around). He draws at least above 150 and he offers everything that grows a community: coaching, interaction, uploads replays of all his games against professionals he consistently beats (and not one time or another, he's beaten idra more than 3 times, we're talking without fail or problem, he's beaten him on all sorts of maps via ladder).

I know I sound like a broken record and the idea of "if we do it for him, we'll have to do it with everyone else" is probably a high likelihood, but I urge you to reconsider or at least, as someone suggested, give a probationary 2 weeks.

On November 02 2011 10:01 ProTech wrote:



I would like you to search my vods, and show me where I called karl and select stream cheaters. I don't believe i EVER said that and i'm pretty sure I would NEVER say something like that.

I know karl from the BW days, and he is my on my friends list. We play 2v2s all the time. So why would I say something stupid like that? And if I did say something like ( which im pretty sure i didn't ) I take it back, and it was probably just completely and utterly out of rage of losing 3-15 against them.

Is there any way in a future update TL could add a feature that lets you add streams to your own featured list?

On November 02 2011 22:36 Perseverance wrote:



1. You have called people on your friends list cheaters plenty of times (I think I am a prime example of this)

2. I like how you just blame the things you said on rage as if THAT of all things makes it acceptable. You're a grown ass man (23-24?) serving in the Armed Forces, ACT LIKE IT. If you want respect you should earn it. There are literally dozens of people all saying the same negative things about you, but for some reason they don't say those things about kara, delphi, or snute, who are other well known 2v2 players (And GM 1v1 players) that stream on TL. Have you ever stopped and thought to yourself... "Hmmm, I wonder why so many people say the exact same things about me? Maybe it's because the things they are all saying are true!?" Based on your actions, the odds are you haven't.

Personally, I do think you should have a featured stream. You stream 10-12 hours a day and clearly have a followership that rival the loyalty of Destiny's "sheep" fans. On top of that you do fill a niche since there aren't many people who stream 2v2.

With that being said, it's also clear that based on your actions you really don't deserve a stream. You do abuse it with your 500 /commercials per minute, HORRIBLY childish attitude, and incredibly hypocritical actions. I think you put the TL staff at odds with one another on what they are to do with you. Maybe a stint on the de-featured list will humble and mature you to an extent that you can be a positive role model for esports rather than a whiney baby who bans anyone and everyone that disagree's with him regardless of the maturity and intellect behind the opposing persons posts.

On November 02 2011 22:36 Perseverance wrote:
1. You have called people on your friends list cheaters plenty of times (I think I am a prime example of this)

2. I like how you just blame the things you said on rage as if THAT of all things makes it acceptable. You're a grown ass man (23-24?) serving in the Armed Forces, ACT LIKE IT. If you want respect you should earn it. There are literally dozens of people all saying the same negative things about you, but for some reason they don't say those things about kara, delphi, or snute, who are other well known 2v2 players (And GM 1v1 players) that stream on TL. Have you ever stopped and thought to yourself... "Hmmm, I wonder why so many people say the exact same things about me? Maybe it's because the things they are all saying are true!?" Based on your actions, the odds are you haven't.

Personally, I do think you should have a featured stream. You stream 10-12 hours a day and clearly have a followership that rival the loyalty of Destiny's "sheep" fans. On top of that you do fill a niche since there aren't many people who stream 2v2.

With that being said, it's also clear that based on your actions you really don't deserve a stream. You do abuse it with your 500 /commercials per minute, HORRIBLY childish attitude, and incredibly hypocritical actions. I think you put the TL staff at odds with one another on what they are to do with you. Maybe a stint on the de-featured list will humble and mature you to an extent that you can be a positive role model for esports rather than a whiney baby who bans anyone and everyone that disagree's with him regardless of the maturity and intellect behind the opposing persons posts.

On November 02 2011 15:09 Torte de Lini wrote:

Ugh. No, he's not on a majorly famed team (unless you consider CS: S a very important game, in which case, he's on the arguably best CS: S team around). He draws at least above 150 and he offers everything that grows a community: coaching, interaction, uploads replays of all his games against professionals he consistently beats (and not one time or another, he's beaten idra more than 3 times, we're talking without fail or problem, he's beaten him on all sorts of maps via ladder).

On November 02 2011 16:36 Peas wrote:


read the edit in my last post and please, try to justify the idea that contribution should be enough in and of itself to get featured. Moreover, neither of us have all the information or know precisely why he is featured. Perhaps tonight was an anomaly and he does pull in a huge audience. I'd really like to know the numbers so I can stop speculating.
Anyway, let me put it this way, if Hayward averaged 17 viewers would you still think he deserves to be featured. What's the real difference between 17 average viewers, and 200?