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th0rzh4mm3r
2 Posts
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xiver
Serbia18 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:38 Daiki wrote: There's a bad ratio between good and bad feedback in the protech's stream thread. I heard that he randomly accused people of stream cheating. If he is de-featured, he won't be able to blame anyone except for himself or his allies. Best and prolly the only 2v2 stream out there worth watching... Things you heard?! He said, she said... that's not good argument even in preschool... so please, rather, tune in, and learn something! | ||
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2v2AiSieesch
Germany98 Posts
named: Protech Delphi Snute Optikzero All the named players are skilled and 2v2 Players. Where Snute and Delphi Optikzero beeing 1v1 GMs as well as Protech only focusses on 2v2. I dont know about the individual reasons but i think there are many ppl out there which are interested in 2v2 even if its way less than 1v1. So it is hard to gain big viewernumbers in 2v2. There arent to many big 2v2 tournements out there so its also hard to make yourself a name that way. So NO 2v2 Stream at all is featured anymore... You may could add a 2v2 section to the featured thing which ppl can than filter in or out. So you could help to even grow the 2v2 scene instead of killing the attention payed to it. regards AiSieesch | ||
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drop271
New Zealand286 Posts
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Darth Caedus
United States326 Posts
Aside from Idra and Sheth, isn't Vibe the 3rd most accomplished NA Zerg? He has some mad skills and whenever he commentates his stream I always learn something that teaches me how to react to what I see much faster than I would learn through grinding on my own. And ProTech has to be the best 2v2 stream on TL. If he isn't going to get a feature for high level 2v2 play what do you have to do to get one? | ||
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drop271
New Zealand286 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:34 Darth Caedus wrote: Aside from Idra and Sheth, isn't Vibe the 3rd most accomplished NA Zerg? He has some mad skills and whenever he commentates his stream I always learn something that teaches me how to react to what I see much faster than I would learn through grinding on my own.  SLush is probably the next best. His MLG results are consistantly strong | ||
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TheTrueAmerican
United States132 Posts
i feel now at least that featured players will feel its a privilege and not a right like they have been treating it. If you cant draw viewers or havent won anything significant then you shouldnt be featured. players who have between 50-250 viewers should be removed from featured and give other people a shot because obviously your viewership isnt going up if youve been given enough time to improve your stream and still draw low numbers. But like i said being featured is a privilege not a right and i think a lot of players think just because they are GM or on a good team they should get featured right away when thats just not the case. | ||
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ProTech
United States440 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:44 TheTrueAmerican wrote: while there is a lot out outrage against this. Im for it. It gives more players the opportunity to get featured and frankly the list before was getting boring. i feel now at least that featured players will feel its a privilege and not a right like they have been treating it. If you cant draw viewers or havent won anything significant then you shouldnt be featured. players who have between 50-250 viewers should be removed from featured and give other people a shot because obviously your viewership isnt going up if youve been given enough time to improve your stream and still draw low numbers. But like i said being featured is a privilege not a right and i think a lot of players think just because they are GM or on a good team they should get featured right away when thats just not the case. I disagree, how can the list be boring? Everyone who was featured before was a great player. | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
It's really nice to have Diversity in the Choice... i don't want to just watch 1v1's Its nice to watch 2v2's once in a while! Also why De-Feature Titan107? He Beat WhiteRa 2-1 in MLG.... i don't get it. | ||
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Darth Caedus
United States326 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:40 drop271 wrote: SLush is probably the next best. His MLG results are consistantly strongSlush got into pool play before Vibe really hit the scene, and it is well agreed that staying in pools and performing well in general at an MLG is much easier from the pools than going through the open bracket. Vibe also has been in NASL and done respectably there and I believe he participates in more online cups than Slush. | ||
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agtemd
Canada362 Posts
Megumi puts so much effort into her stream, I follow her on TwitchTV and my ipod gets notifications when streams are online and I swear everyday I get home I just see on my ipod that she's streaming as soon as I get in range of my WiFi connection. She runs 4 tourneys a month 2 of which are for EU players and despite poor showings for her past EU tourneys she still does them regardless. Her work at IPL3 was great too. If not as a player please re-feature her under the [Others] section as a personality. I'm not sure why ViBE was defeatured either, he was one of the players on sixjax who actually posted respectable results and had more showings/exposure to me. | ||
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Peas
Canada102 Posts
At least iNkA was refeatured | ||
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ddrnold
United States2 Posts
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PR4Y
United States260 Posts
If anything, refeature him under "Other" to give people the opportunity to filter out non-competitive 1v1 related content. I only read the first page of this thread and for a stream to be defeatured on grounds of viewership, why was protech removed? His stream has consistent 100+ with peaks of like 300-400 viewers at ANY given time. However, unlike other players who were unfeatured, he has STILL REMAINED at this level of viewership even though he isn't featured. Doesn't this show that there are people out there interested in something other then 1v1 once in a while? Please, refeature him under "Other" at least... it's such a pain in the ass to have to look through the list of 100+ streams at any given time to find the one you are looking for. | ||
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Peas
Canada102 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Is it because he asked his Twitter followers to spam the boards begging him to be refeatured (good for them, really loyal!)? I don't understand now and I'm really confused. We have three Montreal Protoss players: one who doesn't really talk to us (kiwikaki), TT1 who's now teamless and equally as uncommunicative and the underdog who practices and beats both consistently: Attero. One's teamless, one's going to WCG Korea and one is retiring considering he can no longer make a living off his passion (which he was doing marginally before). I'm not angry, just heavily disappointed and discouraged. He offered all the key points except he didn't draw in the traffic TL is looking for (which is coincidentally the same numbers some other featured people have been drawing in all day today [not necessarily a fair comparison, but it's to set a point]). Ugh. No, he's not on a majorly famed team (unless you consider CS: S a very important game, in which case, he's on the arguably best CS: S team around). He draws at least above 150 and he offers everything that grows a community: coaching, interaction, uploads replays of all his games against professionals he consistently beats (and not one time or another, he's beaten idra more than 3 times, we're talking without fail or problem, he's beaten him on all sorts of maps via ladder). I know I sound like a broken record and the idea of "if we do it for him, we'll have to do it with everyone else" is probably a high likelihood, but I urge you to reconsider or at least, as someone suggested, give a probationary 2 weeks. | ||
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iNkA
United States206 Posts
On November 02 2011 15:09 Torte de Lini wrote: Why is inKa refeatured? I understand the reasons are confidential, but you have someone with significantly less achievements [in comparison] (was previously with EG, then went to Lz and then QxG where he achieved the same as he did back with EG), same number of viewers (220 I believe is the number he achieves, by all means correct me) and about the same level of notoriety but he gets (re)featured? Is it because he asked his Twitter followers to spam the boards begging him to be refeatured (good for them, really loyal!)? I don't understand now and I'm really confused. We have three Montreal Protoss players: one who doesn't really talk to us (kiwikaki), TT1 who's now teamless and equally as uncommunicative and the underdog who practices and beats both consistently: Attero. One's teamless, one's going to WCG Korea and one is retiring considering he can no longer make a living off his passion (which he was doing marginally before). I'm not angry, just heavily disappointed and discouraged. He offered all the key points except he didn't draw in the traffic TL is looking for (which is coincidentally the same numbers some other featured people have been drawing in all day today [not necessarily a fair comparison, but it's to set a point]). Ugh. No, he's not on a majorly famed team (unless you consider CS: S a very important game, in which case, he's on the arguably best CS: S team around). He draws at least above 150 and he offers everything that grows a community: coaching, interaction, uploads replays of all his games against professionals he consistently beats (and not one time or another, he's beaten idra more than 3 times, we're talking without fail or problem, he's beaten him on all sorts of maps via ladder). I know I sound like a broken record and the idea of "if we do it for him, we'll have to do it with everyone else" is probably a high likelihood, but I urge you to reconsider or at least, as someone suggested, give a probationary 2 weeks. you're wrong on so many accounts in which i don't have time to get into atm. the data of my viewership they originally received was incorrect. i meet the criteria. | ||
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Peas
Canada102 Posts
On November 02 2011 13:37 Peas wrote: I beseech you representatives and administrators of Team Liquid to explain why this change to featured (and thus un-featured) streams was necessary. I suppose there is something to say for streamlining (pun intended), but its not like the list of featured streams was becoming unmanageably long. It seems to me that there is a not so insignificant number of streamers who stand to lose a lot a viewers (and thus a lot of revenue). This appears particularly sucky to me, irrespective of whether or not their streams meet your seemingly inconsistent and arbitrary metric. Whats also ludicrous is Gordon Hayward maintaining featured status. Its a super slow night for streaming and he's barely cracking 250 viewers. Moreover, he in no way relies on streaming to generate revenue towards his livelihood. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
It's just a reiteration in the end, I'm not really expecting to change minds. Just wanted to rant and still feel that if you got refeatured, Attero deserves the same chance, at least. | ||
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iNkA
United States206 Posts
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