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p00rc0ntr0l
Afghanistan1 Post
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:41 p00rc0ntr0l wrote: How the fuck is InControl still featured... I didn't know re-streaming "The Biggest Loser" qualified as an sc2 stream. throwaway account for a throwaway post. incontrol >> you. | ||
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Peas
Canada102 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:31 Insane wrote: Obviously I have a personal issue with the way Protech conducts himself. I don't feel TL should be representing that as a stream they are promoting (which is essentially what a "featured stream" is). I have no real intention of watching Protech, and I can turn around the comment on you: if you do want to watch his stream, you can easily do that when he's not featured. How many other streamers with "less than conventional" behavior than Destiny does TL feature? Destiny is wildly popular (perhaps #2 in popularity after Idra for stream viewership? I'm not 100% going to say that, but I think that's about right), and that's why he's streamed. [Also, you may have missed the post where Destiny announced it, but he's on the whole much more reserved on stream than he used to be] Protech calls people like Optikzero and Select cheaters. Are you actually saying they are known cheaters? I've never heard of them that way. If you read the topic about it, there are a lot of high level 2v2ers who feel similarly that Protech is a poor representation of the 2v2 community. I dont believe for a moment that he called those guys cheaters. I watch his stream often and I've never heard a clearly dubious accusation. The odd occasion in which he is purely speculating, he admits as much and simply reasons why he thinks its possible. Moreover, you are using Protech's behaviour as an argument against his suitability as a featured streamer, not me. To this I say a) his behaviour is hardly questionable (can you explain how it is?), b) while I can still watch his stream if he remains un-featured, this is besides the point. I am advocating for him to remain featured because I think he and his SC2 "career" deserve it. I'll ask again, what exactly would TL be promoting if they kept his stream featured, that you feel they should not be promoting? I've already explained how his cheat accusations are reasonable, and how he actively provides positive things such as informative commentary. Keep in mind that If you call into question his language (curse words) or occasional in game BM, you'd have to maintain the same for a slew of other streamers. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Well, it would make sense tho as TWK is a Dota2 streamer and probably have nothing to do with TL, but he does meet the 'requirements'. Just my thoughts. | ||
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CursedFeanor
Canada539 Posts
He is basically the only high (TOP) level 2v2 streamer out there, with notable accomplishments end relatively high viewer count (every time I watch, it's something around 200). He streams a LOT, interacts with the viewers and owns faces.... What do you need more TL? Or is it that TL officially doesn't recognize 2v2 (while recognizing shit like DOTA2)??? | ||
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ProTech
United States440 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:31 Insane wrote: Obviously I have a personal issue with the way Protech conducts himself. I don't feel TL should be representing that as a stream they are promoting (which is essentially what a "featured stream" is). I have no real intention of watching Protech, and I can turn around the comment on you: if you do want to watch his stream, you can easily do that when he's not featured. How many other streamers with "less than conventional" behavior than Destiny does TL feature? Destiny is wildly popular (perhaps #2 in popularity after Idra for stream viewership? I'm not 100% going to say that, but I think that's about right), and that's why he's streamed. [Also, you may have missed the post where Destiny announced it, but he's on the whole much more reserved on stream than he used to be] Protech calls people like Optikzero and Select cheaters. Are you actually saying they are known cheaters? I've never heard of them that way. If you read the topic about it, there are a lot of high level 2v2ers who feel similarly that Protech is a poor representation of the 2v2 community. I would like you to search my vods, and show me where I called karl and select stream cheaters. I don't believe i EVER said that and i'm pretty sure I would NEVER say something like that. I know karl from the BW days, and he is my on my friends list. We play 2v2s all the time. So why would I say something stupid like that? And if I did say something like ( which im pretty sure i didn't ) I take it back, and it was probably just completely and utterly out of rage of losing 3-15 against them. | ||
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Fuhrmaaj
167 Posts
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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
On November 01 2011 23:05 delHospital wrote: I don't like this change. People worth watching, who play the game at a high level and (in contrast to many featured streamers) use a microphone to interact with their audience, such as deathangel, protech, ryanrushia and response, are being put together with bronze league players. I don't think I will feel like crawling through this list very often, so most likely I will end up not watching them at all. This seems bad for both parties involved \: much obliged delHospital... but i clearly haven't been able to put in the time recently that i'd like to for streaing, not surprised i was removed. i will however continue to stream, so if you are able to wade through the other unfeatured lists please feel free to visit  | ||
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Peas
Canada102 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:03 Fuhrmaaj wrote: I don't understand your metric, so I can't make a cogent argument for my preferred streamers. I would like to see Attero, Maker and Vibe back. Or at least a more visible section for players who are currently on teams. I dont quite understand it either. It seems to overvalue accomplishments and undervalue popularity, but not consistently. O.o. | ||
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SanD__
Netherlands28 Posts
Is it possible to include League (ie GM, Master, Diamond and lower) in the sorting options for the streams? Perhaps this might be fair towards GM players that are not featured, but I understand that this may have its particular implications for lower league players as well. This is something I was contemplating and thought best to post for the TL staff to see and for stream viewers to respond to. | ||
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drop271
New Zealand286 Posts
Just my 2cents, would like to see it featured. Regarding language etc - tbh I think its pretty mild. The odd swearword maybe, but seriously, we're not becoming that anodyne are we? | ||
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
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ProgramMax
United States1 Post
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Canadaehz
Canada59 Posts
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Kooun
Canada260 Posts
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phiinix
United States1169 Posts
Edit: Adding league would be cool, when I'm looking at the non featured, I look for masters/grand masters, and then by race | ||
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
More broadly, I would say that users anywhere in the world should be able to log on at any time and find a GM toss, GM Terran, and GM Zerg in the featured list. Instead of being completly rigid in the criteria, they should be applied in a way to ensure that GM level streams are there for the views. Right now the north American viewers have had all their toss cut. | ||
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Beatus
Canada101 Posts
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drop271
New Zealand286 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:38 Daiki wrote: There's a bad ratio between good and bad feedback in the protech's stream thread. I heard that he randomly accused people of stream cheating. If he is de-featured, he won't be able to blame anyone except for himself or his allies. Is basing your comment on what you have 'heard' from people rather than seen for yourself really appropriate? How do you know he isn't justified? Irregardless, your logic is poor. Being defeatured doesn't stop people watching his stream | ||
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Peas
Canada102 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:38 Daiki wrote: There's a bad ratio between good and bad feedback in the protech's stream thread. I heard that he randomly accused people of stream cheating. If he is de-featured, he won't be able to blame anyone except for himself or his allies. 1) Your logic is horribly flawed 2) Stop basing your opinion on hearsay 3) Do you even watch Protech? edit: looks like drop271 beat me to it | ||
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