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Why is everything in EST, PST, CET, KST, ...,?
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A lot of people use this for announcing tournaments/events and I'm always stuck finding out what timezone it exactly is and when daylight saving time goes into effect for different countries, which is really annoying and I'm sure other people feel the same way. Wouldn't it be much easier to have everything in GMT +/-X:XX format, assuming everyone has at least had an elementary school education and knows what their GMT +/-X:XX is? Or why not just add the GMT? For example, GOMtv:
Apr 19, 17:20 KST( GMT +9)
This saves me and many others from googling a time converter and figuring out how to actually use that time converter, because the first few hits on google require you to know the country and/or state. Even if you don't know the GMT, it is very very easy to find out as your city/state/country + google will give it to you on your first hit, whereas that is not the case if you need to figure out what EST, PST etc. is including when DST is in effect.
Example, I googled 'orlando gmt' and this was my first hit:
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Is there really nobody who would like to comment on this? Surely there are more people who are supportive of this idea?
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You suggest this because you have trouble matching intuitive names like central, eastern time (which you can visualise assuming basic geographical knowledge) but expect people to remember their location or tournament's timezone based on numbers. The reason these things have names is because most people remember them easier than numbers.
I am in support of having both, but it's going to be hard to get everyone to do it.
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I don't really mind either way. TL has the amount of time till an event so it's not usually too much effort to figure it out.
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On April 20 2011 19:55 deL wrote:
You suggest this because you have trouble matching intuitive names like central, eastern time (which you can visualise assuming basic geographical knowledge) but expect people to remember their location or tournament's timezone based on numbers. The reason these things have names is because most people remember them easier than numbers.
I am in support of having both, but it's going to be hard to get everyone to do it.
You have to know the numbers anyway. Just knowing it's Central Time isn't enough. You have to know that Central Time is x number of hours ahead/behind KST (or whatever).
If it was done by GMT +/- X you could just say 'Okay, I'm GMT +12, the event is at 6pm GMT +9, GMT +9 is 3 hours behind GMT+12, so it's at 9pm here'.
But yeah. Not the biggest deal in the world.
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its a good idea to approach the timezone thing, I also found it somewhat confusing from time to time.
The system I would prefer was to have an option for everyone to enter his timezone in the account settings and then have announced times displayed individually based on what timezone you specified.
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In my opinion, everyone should display the time in two timezones ; one being the timezone that they are in , and the second being GMT/UTC. After all, why is it called "universal"? It's so everyone knows that timezone, how much to subtract or add onto their own. Then it would save most people from trying to find out from a website.
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I know PST is -8, EST -5, CET +1. Dont know any others so have to look it up if its ever posted in anything else.
I like the idea.
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I agree with you, it's hard to know everysingle timezone so everyone should just do like GSL does with their timezone and how that translates to GMT
but i'm in GMT time so i might be a bit biased :d
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I agree on a standarised system as opposed to tournaments quoting different time zone systems.
Although even better... would be countdown timers (on the tournament website, or on TL).
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I do not mind the way it is. I can agree that it is a bit of work to find what time it is in my timezone, but I don't mind that. That said I would not be against adding zone as GMT or UTC if anyone gor the time and will for it. But again Not really necessary.
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Im very supportive of this idea, in fact i've posted something very similar in an older thread about timezones. It is absolutely incredulous to me that people still use the PST/CET/whatever combinations when there is infact a very nice, UNIVERSAL, system which everyone understands. Not to mention the fact that the TL clock is in KST... I could possibly understand this back when SC:BW was the shit, but now? Seriously? -.-
Edit: Not saying TL should not have a KST clock, seeing as this still is a BW forum etc. But it wouldn't be too hard to add a GMT/UTC clock below it?
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Yes please, i'd love this. Converting time based on GMT is simple compared to googling and trying to find out how many hours ahead or behind i am and then how that translates over to the actual time of the event.
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I just keep 5 different clocks on my computer set to different time zones. Never had a problem with it.
However I understand and support the OP.
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It would help if people used Teamliquid's [time] tag. No worrying about time zones, it's simply converted to each viewer's own time zone.
11:14 GMT (+00:00)
See?
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This forum has a tag "date" that you can write around your date and it will be translated to the timezone in the viewers profile. For example, there is a broadcast with Socke today at 19:00 in my timezone:
2011-04-20, 19:00 CEST
with "date" and "/date" around it, it gets translated to your timezone:
Wednesday, Apr 20 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
If someone does not use it, I type "time in Dallas" or "time in Minsk" etc. into Google and Google outputs a line like "6:14 Wednesday (CDT) - Time in Dallas, TX, USA" besides normal search results.
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I totally agree with the OP. We europeans need GMT times please.
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Yeah, well the worst problem to me is that we don't have the time in GMT on our posts but only in KST.
Also be careful, at the moment in the UK for instance, it is 12:19 but the GMT is 11:19, it is because we are under the british summer time.
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On April 20 2011 20:19 MagicToto wrote:
Yeah, well the worst problem to me is that we don't have the time in GMT on our posts but only in KST.
Also be careful, at the moment in the UK for instance, it is 12:19 but the GMT is 11:19, it is because we are under the british summer time.
EDIT: I misunderstood... I'm an idiot 
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this is a problem with a viable workaround
many sites got an embedded stream in them which is offline and above them :
Tournament [name]
Starts in [x] days, [y] hours, [z]minutes and [t] seconds.
This takes the confusion out.
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i am on GMT and have so much trouble trying to figure out certin times for events, 1 way of laying out timezones for all would defo save alot of confusion.
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I support the GMT idea, it's easier to know the time, however the date tag should be use more often u.u'
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On April 20 2011 20:14 Scorch wrote:
It would help if people used Teamliquid's [time] tag. No worrying about time zones, it's simply converted to each viewer's own time zone.
17:48 GMT (+00:00)
See?
It might help if this feature is more prominently (or at all) visible near the post typing box.
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