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Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
January 26 2011 22:06 GMT
#41
+ there isn't really knowing a way of which one is better than the other. For races its ez a dragoon > a probe. But why should one random critter > another random critter. Doesn't make mutch sense
aimless
Profile Joined January 2011
United States57 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 23:51:25
January 26 2011 23:41 GMT
#42
On January 27 2011 05:55 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
the problem that i see is the missing connection between those icons and the "race" random.

Critters are a series of units that are not part of any race. Random is not a race. That is the connection.

Obviously, there are no random units. So there can't be random unit icons, or this would have existed from the start. But the idea is just to give people who choose random when they play a way to differentiate themselves from the race players when posting on TL. Having critter icons creates that differentiation, while conveniently also being units from the game (rather than a group of unrelated images).

On January 27 2011 07:06 Marradron wrote:
+ there isn't really knowing a way of which one is better than the other. For races its ez a dragoon > a probe. But why should one random critter > another random critter. Doesn't make mutch sense

Are the race icons really sorted worst to best? Is a Scout really better than a High Templar? An Infested Terran better than a Guardian? I'm not certain everyone would agree the race icons have a definitive hierarchy (aside from the one bestowed by TL).

Sill, that's why I generally sorted them by size. Larger = better. Except for the Automaton 2000. That is the last critter. Watch GSL replays and Tasteless will give you a sense of its importance in StarCraft. Or at least make you chuckle.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
January 27 2011 16:34 GMT
#43
On January 27 2011 08:41 aimless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 05:55 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
the problem that i see is the missing connection between those icons and the "race" random.

Critters are a series of units that are not part of any race. Random is not a race. That is the connection.


Well that explanation might sound like it makes sense, but in reality there is no connection between a rabbit / cow / autobot and the race random. Neutral doesnt mean random, and NOT T/Z/P doesnt mean random either.

The idea of having icons for the random players is good, but they have to be self-explanatory. Imagine somebody who's new to the site: He sees a rabbit and thinks "Oh that is a random player" Not really.

Again my suggestion would be not to use crittes, but other icons that are clearly associated with randomness, like coins and dice and so. A ranking could be done by using their Laplace-chances:
Coin ( 1/2 ) , Dice ( 1/6) 12 Side- Dice (1/12 ) ... to an orb which has a laplace chance of (1/infinity) so to say.
This is our town, scrub
mavyric
Profile Joined November 2010
Taiwan104 Posts
January 27 2011 20:06 GMT
#44
I would love to have Random Icons.

Personally I don't think the critters are really representative of Random players.....would prefer the dice and question mark a lot more.

Vive Hodie
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
February 19 2011 16:57 GMT
#45
Just wondering, is this being discussed or is there no way this is happening?
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Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 06:17:39
February 21 2011 06:13 GMT
#46
Edit: Ahhh, I see.

Definitely a critter could be good here, or, no, actually a Dice would be cool.

The biggest problem is that it would be extremely difficult to do the pseudo rank system for random players.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 21 2011 09:43 GMT
#47
Easiest thing I can think of is a small gif that switches between the icons of your rank every couple of seconds. So Drone->Probe->SCV->Drone or whatever. No need to come up with some weird thing with dice or critters, makes sense, no need to come up with a new ranking system.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
February 21 2011 09:47 GMT
#48
I personally dislike gifs, but maybe thats just me.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19221 Posts
February 21 2011 12:48 GMT
#49
On February 21 2011 18:43 deconduo wrote:
Easiest thing I can think of is a small gif that switches between the icons of your rank every couple of seconds. So Drone->Probe->SCV->Drone or whatever. No need to come up with some weird thing with dice or critters, makes sense, no need to come up with a new ranking system.

Double no.
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Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
February 21 2011 18:45 GMT
#50
On February 21 2011 21:48 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 18:43 deconduo wrote:
Easiest thing I can think of is a small gif that switches between the icons of your rank every couple of seconds. So Drone->Probe->SCV->Drone or whatever. No need to come up with some weird thing with dice or critters, makes sense, no need to come up with a new ranking system.

Double no.


Heck yes, and we're already using gifs for mod icons. lol.

good idea deconduo
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
February 21 2011 19:30 GMT
#51
theres a difference between a max of 2 gifs or so per thread and 50 because everybody is going to get one... please please no gifs.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
February 21 2011 21:29 GMT
#52
There is a reason why gif icons are reserved for mods.
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adso
Profile Joined March 2011
718 Posts
March 02 2011 22:16 GMT
#53
aimless wrote:
"... I generally sorted them by size. Larger = better. Except for the Automaton 2000. That is the last critter."

The automaton should be the highest decal in any scenario (even dices)...I wholeheartedly agree and cannot stop myself while typing this...

Random has no equivalent and while i personally initially preferred the D&D dice approach
(i would hate loosing the dice reference), i think loads of randoms might think it dull visually "overall" (only ever having a dice).

i also agree that critters are not the best, because they are not as exiting visually as sc2 units (with exceptions). I do love the fact that it's do a ble that way and thanks again and kudos for the work done) (there are 10 critters, how lucky is that!?).

tl gracious mods and admins will only go for something that will work in favor of the members, not something half of the randoms will be put off by, so identifying random players' wishes seems paramount..

Critters (great work ready to go) or dices (with or without variations: coin, whirligig, roulette domino or checks' pieces or even the "orb bit".....),
all get my vote (+1 random player wants to be identified as such, in a cool way on cool tl).
adso
Profile Joined March 2011
718 Posts
May 12 2011 12:33 GMT
#54
So.. Z got a mule...
lil emo
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 23:56:22
May 07 2013 23:55 GMT
#55
adso was right .. so were all the members of tl .. for asking that the randomness of our soul etiquette be showcased...
I'm a sad panda .. I scrolled 15 pages and then stopped .. didn't find it honorably .. had to toolsearch .. me sad for that ..

I wish to be aded to the excell file with members wanting a random icon forever (that should be a requirement in my old opinion)

we need to be .. let us be tl wholeheartedly please .. pretty please on all your knees .. woups got that wrong somewhere

edit:
never was so much owed by so many to so few (W Churchil)
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