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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 01:44:42
June 18 2010 06:46 GMT
#1
This has been brought up in a couple of recent threads, a choice of SC2-themed icons versus the classic BW icons. So I whipped up some icons to see what they might look like...

[image loading]
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
June 18 2010 06:47 GMT
#2
Looks pretty cool, I think people should have a choice between classic and sc2 icons though.
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9037 Posts
June 18 2010 06:48 GMT
#3
Awesome stuff. It's about time!
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 18 2010 06:50 GMT
#4
Moved to website feedback.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
June 18 2010 07:36 GMT
#5
Ehhhh I much prefer what we have right now...
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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 08:31:13
June 18 2010 07:48 GMT
#6
I think the main problem with the concept is that the 3D units are harder to see at such a low resolution. These icons use the in-game portraits, and are about as clear as you can get without altering the size/border of the image.

There is also the hypothesis that unfamiliar images aren't as quickly recognized. It may take years of playing SC2 for the bias to disappear. The colors really help the units stand out though.

On June 18 2010 17:14 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Can't even tell what half of those even are.

22x22 is pretty damn small, with the border it's like 16x16 pixels. BW sprites scale better, but I think this is about as good of a concept as we'll get of units that were drawn for 3D and lack textural features.

I could try some edge-detection on the sources and cartoonify things (so to speak) before scaling, but there isn't much room to work with in the first place.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
June 18 2010 07:55 GMT
#7
could always try using the 3 icons for races and slowly drawing in the icon per a post level.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
June 18 2010 08:14 GMT
#8
Can't even tell what half of those even are.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
June 18 2010 08:38 GMT
#9
Those icons are hmm... a bit hazy :D
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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 09:45:13
June 18 2010 09:42 GMT
#10
On June 18 2010 17:38 Crucifix wrote:
Those icons are hmm... a bit hazy :D

Well if we increased the size to, say, 32x32 this would be ezpz.
[image loading] and [image loading] are no less muddled. We only recognize them because we've seen them over and over again.
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KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
June 18 2010 13:07 GMT
#11
I support if we get to choose between SC1 and SC2 icons, they look really cool but a bit too small. A slight increase in size would be nice
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AnodyneSea
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Jamaica757 Posts
June 18 2010 13:38 GMT
#12
Is there a post with info on when you get each icon??
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firebound12
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada274 Posts
June 18 2010 14:41 GMT
#13
im in for the idea! Maybe you could update the graphics, but having sc2 user icons would be awesome! :D
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25997 Posts
June 18 2010 15:21 GMT
#14
On June 18 2010 22:38 jamaZn wrote:
Is there a post with info on when you get each icon??

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=47518
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
June 18 2010 16:20 GMT
#15
may that thread never, ever die
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AnodyneSea
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Jamaica757 Posts
June 18 2010 17:07 GMT
#16
On June 19 2010 00:21 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2010 22:38 jamaZn wrote:
Is there a post with info on when you get each icon??

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=47518


thanks chill, i found this earlier along with a bunch of other posts regarding this topic with the flying monkies and got basically nothing out of it,

this post helped alot for anyone else new to TL looking for info on it

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=16170#1
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
June 18 2010 19:11 GMT
#17
Chill is making a point - you're not supposed to know.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
June 19 2010 02:38 GMT
#18
so now they will have to take him out?

Sc2 icons is a debate we don't have them not because tl doesn't have a graphics team but rather becuase, 1 the game isn't finalized 2 not sure if there will be sc2 icons and if so how will it be implemented
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-19 06:37:44
June 19 2010 06:17 GMT
#19
also there's that whole "we haven't seen all the units in the game" thingy

and you're icons, though the effort was well placed, do in fact look far more muddled than the icons we have now, and it's not because we're used to them. i know what a muta looks like, but i had a hard time locating it in your lineup. same goes for the scv, archon, etc.

the icons were very well made, and it'll take a while to part with them imo, if at all.
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PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-19 06:50:11
June 19 2010 06:48 GMT
#20
In conjunction with the current poll on viewable post count, many people say they use rank icons to identify seniority - in that case, implementing these SC2 icons would just make those people ultimately confused. Personally, if we had to use the icons OP made it would be a giant step back (no offense! I know you were limited by image dimensions). I don't even know half the icons there and I've played lots of SC2. The current rank icons are perfect, with only the lurker being a bit hard to notice, but as a result of it being the ONLY icon that's hard to distinguish, it's easy to associate that icon being the lurker in your head.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
June 19 2010 07:37 GMT
#21
Well i suggested a long time ago have sc2 icons only in the sc2 section as like all of the sc2 section you will have a sc2 icon no choice about it.
Clamev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Germany498 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-20 00:22:34
June 19 2010 23:45 GMT
#22

Ups wrong thread sorry <.<
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Setz3R
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States455 Posts
June 21 2010 11:07 GMT
#23
On June 19 2010 16:37 semantics wrote:
Well i suggested a long time ago have sc2 icons only in the sc2 section as like all of the sc2 section you will have a sc2 icon no choice about it.


I kinda like that idea because I don't wanna see the BW icons go to waste...especially cause judging by those examples the SC2 3d icons aren't really easy on the eyes .
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Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 17:42:32
July 08 2010 17:40 GMT
#24
On June 19 2010 02:07 jamaZn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2010 00:21 Chill wrote:
On June 18 2010 22:38 jamaZn wrote:
Is there a post with info on when you get each icon??

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=47518


thanks chill, i found this earlier along with a bunch of other posts regarding this topic with the flying monkies and got basically nothing out of it,

this post helped alot for anyone else new to TL looking for info on it

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=16170#1



Hrm, I dont see any flying monkeys. Might be something weird with my phone.

Anyway, I think having an option for SC1 or SC2 icons would be neat - but probably alot of work. I like the nostalgia associated with the SC1 though.
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DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
July 28 2010 18:22 GMT
#25
The icons looks pretty sweet.
I don't mind whether or not TL implement SC2 icons.
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sYz-Adrenaline
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 00:56:21
August 05 2010 00:55 GMT
#26
This idea needs more attention! I really like it and i so want to be a phoenix :o or spam like hell to get my dt icon :>
Can you feel the rush?
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
January 14 2011 19:53 GMT
#27
This really needs to be bumped. I never played scbw and I can't tell what my icon is, although it kinda looks like a reaver. It would be great if an option to the profile was added to let you select which icons you preferred (scbw or sc2). I'm sure a lot of people would really like sc2 icons and the OP of this thread has a great list of icons.

Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
January 14 2011 19:56 GMT
#28
Also I recommend using a higher quality version of the image and using offset parameters so that users only have to download a single asset.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 14 2011 21:56 GMT
#29
I think motbob should post in this thread.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 15 2011 23:21 GMT
#30
Keep these icons, but perhaps add a subtitle below in small-small print or something.
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.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
January 23 2011 08:31 GMT
#31
I like the idea of just having the BW icons. It's something that sort of defines TeamLiquid for me, and it's a good visual reminder of this website's roots.
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t3tsubo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada682 Posts
January 25 2011 18:48 GMT
#32
On January 15 2011 04:53 darmousseh wrote:
This really needs to be bumped. I never played scbw and I can't tell what my icon is, although it kinda looks like a reaver. It would be great if an option to the profile was added to let you select which icons you preferred (scbw or sc2). I'm sure a lot of people would really like sc2 icons and the OP of this thread has a great list of icons.



this post makes me sad.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 12:54:06
January 26 2011 12:53 GMT
#33
why dont we just remove all the things together?

im way over my head here but i think if this is going to be implemented .. its gonna create another divide on an already divided community ..

my 2 cents
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 26 2011 15:06 GMT
#34
On January 26 2011 21:53 aimaimaim wrote:
why dont we just remove all the things together?

im way over my head here but i think if this is going to be implemented .. its gonna create another divide on an already divided community ..

my 2 cents


It's a really, really tough situation, because if you remove the BW icons then you alienate the BW players in a way. Also, it's cool to rank up- so having no icons would suck . Personally, I think the best option, for the moment at least, is to keep the same icons- for those who don't know BW is still a big game, and an important part of our community. As well, as someone already said, it's a reminder of what started this whole site.

To those who don't understand what the icons mean, maybe you should look into the history of Starcraft and Teamliquid. Watch some BW, heck the OSL finals are coming up this weekend. This is a great opportunity to find out about Broodwar, I assure it's not a boring game!!
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Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
January 27 2011 12:50 GMT
#35
On January 27 2011 00:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 21:53 aimaimaim wrote:
why dont we just remove all the things together?

im way over my head here but i think if this is going to be implemented .. its gonna create another divide on an already divided community ..

my 2 cents


It's a really, really tough situation, because if you remove the BW icons then you alienate the BW players in a way. Also, it's cool to rank up- so having no icons would suck . Personally, I think the best option, for the moment at least, is to keep the same icons- for those who don't know BW is still a big game, and an important part of our community. As well, as someone already said, it's a reminder of what started this whole site.

To those who don't understand what the icons mean, maybe you should look into the history of Starcraft and Teamliquid. Watch some BW, heck the OSL finals are coming up this weekend. This is a great opportunity to find out about Broodwar, I assure it's not a boring game!!


Definitely agree. Even if TL becomes 90% SC2, 10% BW or something, I'd be in favor of keeping the BW icons, if only because that's where the site began.
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Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
January 27 2011 23:19 GMT
#36
Why on earth would they just remove the BW icons? That's ridiculous. BW is still going strong, and while it is, there is absolutely no way the mods would remove the icons.

Hell, even if BW completely died, they'd probably keep the icons for nostalgic purposes.

Seriously, can you imagine the outcry if those icons were removed? It won't happen, so don't worry. =)

I'm all in favour of us being able to choose either SC2 or BW icons. Only problem is I'd have no idea which to choose. D:

(Oh and I have to disagree with Torte de Lini's idea of having subtitles under the icons, IMO that wouldn't look too flash. People can just figure out what the unusual ones look like on their own xD)
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