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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
April 22 2010 12:21 GMT
#21
On April 22 2010 20:10 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2010 18:42 iounas wrote:
On April 22 2010 03:16 mOnion wrote:
I remember there was a big friendly discussion about broodlords but now its in closed and poster with ~20000 posts banned.


the thread wasn't any more "friendly" than any other QQimba thread and that's charliemurphy who has a history here but still will post garbage threads just for the shit of it. probably the best case of high post counts =/= good poster

here's another one of his fantastic thread

trozz would be a good example of the reciprocate of that. under 400 posts, but everyone loves him.

Another older broodlord post popped up:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=114766
I dont see how its any different to that other.. Why isnt this guy banned too..
I dont see 8 replays or 10 page mathematical proof just that they are insane and protoss has no answer..
Its not a democracy..thats why..

You answered your own question:
Show nested quote +
Another older broodlord post popped up:

That was before the new rules were made, and there were other topics like that at the time.

THere you go.

And no, TL is certainly not a democracy, why would it be?
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-22 17:16:50
April 22 2010 17:16 GMT
#22
On April 22 2010 18:42 iounas wrote:
Its not a democracy..thats why..

why do you keep mentioning this?

do you expect it to be one? why would being a democracy be better?

copied from the 10 Commandments thread (which you read, since all new members automatically get linked to it):

1. THIS IS OUR HOUSE
You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accommodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not a "for profit" enterprise. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course, and that's why we're consistently considered one of the best gaming sites on the web, and you are always free to give us suggestions (Website Feedback Forum). But, we have our limits. If we don't like you, we simply IP ban you. If we're really pissed off, then we IP ban you AND nuke every single post you've uploaded to the site - ever. It will be as if you had never existed here. This is our house. You've been warned.
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19161 Posts
April 22 2010 17:21 GMT
#23
So remember next time you come over to bring something; a jello mold or mac & cheese are common.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
April 22 2010 21:49 GMT
#24
It's amazing the growth this site has had since TSL and Starcraft 2 hit.. I remember when i first started lurking in 2007/2008 It usually had around 600 active members online at any given time, now it's like between 2k-4k at any given time.

Even getting "Server busy" when there's no event or anything going on
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 22 2010 22:00 GMT
#25
On April 23 2010 06:49 Senx wrote:
It's amazing the growth this site has had since TSL and Starcraft 2 hit.. I remember when i first started lurking in 2007/2008 It usually had around 600 active members online at any given time, now it's like between 2k-4k at any given time.

Even getting "Server busy" when there's no event or anything going on


Totally agree
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Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
April 22 2010 22:29 GMT
#26
Belive me TL is a fucking christmas wonderland compared to some of the sites I've been a mod on earlier. You say it's not a democrasy, well welcome to the internet my friend. And thanks to the high banrate on teamliquid we keep a high quality in the post section, as said in the op.

The thing is that once you've lurked TL for a while and learned what's acceptable you're ready to post. It's not like on other forums where you just dive right in, that's what sets TL apart from other forums and that's what makes it so great in my eyes. I mean I still remember the first time I created a OP here, I was fucking scared because I didn't want to get banned. I made sure to stay waaay under the radar and expand my posting. It has not only helped me become a contributor on TL, but it has also helped me become a better contributor in general.

Also I've NEVER seen the point in posting "lol" or anything like that.
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
April 23 2010 05:26 GMT
#27
I find it really easy not to get banned on TL or anger the mods by following one simple rule.
+ Show Spoiler +
Don't be a dumbass.
Jaedong
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6992 Posts
April 23 2010 13:02 GMT
#28
On April 23 2010 07:00 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 06:49 Senx wrote:
It's amazing the growth this site has had since TSL and Starcraft 2 hit.. I remember when i first started lurking in 2007/2008 It usually had around 600 active members online at any given time, now it's like between 2k-4k at any given time.

Even getting "Server busy" when there's no event or anything going on


Totally agree

Iirc. the first TSL announcement had 3k simultaneous users online and the whole site was crashing down all the time, oh how far we've come.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8032 Posts
April 24 2010 03:42 GMT
#29
On April 23 2010 06:49 Senx wrote:
It's amazing the growth this site has had since TSL and Starcraft 2 hit.. I remember when i first started lurking in 2007/2008 It usually had around 600 active members online at any given time, now it's like between 2k-4k at any given time.

Even getting "Server busy" when there's no event or anything going on

Yeah, I'm getting the server busy message at least once or twice a day. It usually clears itself up in a few minutes though.
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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2295 Posts
April 24 2010 06:07 GMT
#30
On April 22 2010 18:42 iounas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2010 03:16 mOnion wrote:
I remember there was a big friendly discussion about broodlords but now its in closed and poster with ~20000 posts banned.


the thread wasn't any more "friendly" than any other QQimba thread and that's charliemurphy who has a history here but still will post garbage threads just for the shit of it. probably the best case of high post counts =/= good poster

here's another one of his fantastic thread

trozz would be a good example of the reciprocate of that. under 400 posts, but everyone loves him.

Another older broodlord post popped up:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=114766
I dont see how its any different to that other.. Why isnt this guy banned too..
I dont see 8 replays or 10 page mathematical proof just that they are insane and protoss has no answer..
Its not a democracy..thats why..

we need no democracy here... is a website, not a country
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19161 Posts
April 24 2010 13:55 GMT
#31
I vote for tyranny!
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Ekyelka
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic7 Posts
April 28 2010 05:39 GMT
#32
I wish every forum out there was moderated like here, internet would be a much better place to visit. Exceptional job! =)
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
April 28 2010 08:13 GMT
#33
On April 23 2010 14:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:
I find it really easy not to get banned on TL or anger the mods by following one simple rule.
+ Show Spoiler +
Don't be a dumbass.

Yeah this is basically the best rule.

It's great because it automatically rules out anything from 4chan or in that style. I've learned everything I know about 4chan from TL. For me it's like a myth in a story that parents tell their children to make them behave.
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 28 2010 16:29 GMT
#34
On April 28 2010 17:13 Fontong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 14:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:
I find it really easy not to get banned on TL or anger the mods by following one simple rule.
+ Show Spoiler +
Don't be a dumbass.

Yeah this is basically the best rule.

It's great because it automatically rules out anything from 4chan or in that style. I've learned everything I know about 4chan from TL. For me it's like a myth in a story that parents tell their children to make them behave.


SO TRUE lol

same!
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
May 01 2010 02:45 GMT
#35
On April 22 2010 14:34 Roffles wrote:
To be honest, the learning curve to posting on TL is moderately steep. It takes some time to browse around, see what's acceptable, what's not acceptable. I do believe that if you got a random new user to register on TL for the first time today and he made a thread, it'd be almost certainly closed. The one thing I do feel about TL is that at times the colored staff and others with sick icons and stuff can be intimidating. I remember when I first lurked here, I didn't wanna post cause I just thought every post of mine would get ridiculed by that grim reaper guy.

However as I've gotten accustomed to TL, it's become second nature now. What I can do, what I can't do. While the staff and mods here might come off as intimidating, they're fair people. If your thread was closed, it's probably cause it sucked. Sometimes you might feel differently than they do, but I think they give everyone an equal chance.

Once you climb up the ladder and have proven yourself as a contributor to the community, you'll get more leniency and freedom.

Haha rekrul is a good dude.
I wouldn't say that making good posts is too hard of a thing to do. Just be active, voice your opinion without insulting people, and make good threads. Nobody will ban you if you're objective; I've read all the bans from the very first one on the automated ban list and every single one that has a reason besides the "I have my reasons" ones has been very understandable.

I made one thread once at the start of SCII about a crack, and it got closed. Hooray for my stupidity, and I never did it again. Granted, I'm pretty sure many of my posts are one-liners (hitting 3k+ in like four months (kona-ism?) can do that to you but I feel like I've been a good poster overall.

This site is great. To be a part of it, you yourself should be great. 3500 posts in with no warnings, one closed (lol crack, sorry~) thread, and four months experience has shown me how great a site TL is.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 01 2010 05:25 GMT
#36
No warnings eh?!!!?!?!

User was warned for this post
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
May 01 2010 05:31 GMT
#37
lol plexa

User was warned for this post
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
May 01 2010 09:23 GMT
#38
On May 01 2010 14:25 Plexa wrote:
No warnings eh?!!!?!?!

User was warned for this post

<3
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 14:16:37
May 01 2010 14:11 GMT
#39
On April 22 2010 01:07 iounas wrote:
^ oh man double posting... Your gonna get banned for life..
The reason Im saying this is because I was on a small forum that talks about a lot of games..
Its a small friendly forum with no trolls or bs or 50% topic closing rate and one normal user posted a topic to post your screenshots from some game and said something like "if you can..post it like attach or link for people with slow internet"..
And I take a screenshot from a game and resize it so its like 50kb and embed it and I get a mod warning saying "next time read the rules noob"..
Its a screenshot thread in year 2009 with avatars of bigger size and it wasnt a rule and its a friendly site.. So I unleash a shitstorm of rage and I see my post was reverted but Im never visiting that site again..

It's difficult to imagine what it's like to mod a forum the size of TL. There are times that I think the mods are too strict, too subjective or out of line, but I've modded a medium sized
D2 forum and I remember how difficult it is to handle every situation. If you give leeway, people are going to take advantage of it, and it's impossible to avoid subjectivity when there's so many people regulating.

This isn't a democracy, nor should it be. It's like a somewhat strict aristocracy, which helps keeps better posters around and at the same time while they're being strict, TL is also very very generous to the SC community.

There have been very few times where I felt like I or someone else was getting punished while being rational and the benefits of being in this community far outweigh those moments.

On April 22 2010 14:34 Roffles wrote:
To be honest, the learning curve to posting on TL is moderately steep. It takes some time to browse around, see what's acceptable, what's not acceptable.

I think that's exactly how it should be. You shouldn't just jump into a situation without observing your surroundings first. I find observe, think, speak is a good method for TL and real life. The people who speak first are the ones who usually get banned, and they're annoying as fuck in classes when they ask shit that's right on the piece of paper in front of them. >.>
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
May 01 2010 19:10 GMT
#40
On April 22 2010 14:34 Roffles wrote:
To be honest, the learning curve to posting on TL is moderately steep. It takes some time to browse around, see what's acceptable, what's not acceptable. I do believe that if you got a random new user to register on TL for the first time today and he made a thread, it'd be almost certainly closed. The one thing I do feel about TL is that at times the colored staff and others with sick icons and stuff can be intimidating. I remember when I first lurked here, I didn't wanna post cause I just thought every post of mine would get ridiculed by that grim reaper guy.

However as I've gotten accustomed to TL, it's become second nature now. What I can do, what I can't do. While the staff and mods here might come off as intimidating, they're fair people. If your thread was closed, it's probably cause it sucked. Sometimes you might feel differently than they do, but I think they give everyone an equal chance.

Once you climb up the ladder and have proven yourself as a contributor to the community, you'll get more leniency and freedom.


Yeah I guess what you say is correct, however, it's really difficult to not get banned or warned. I've been posting on here for a while without any warns or bans too.

And yeah, the longer you post and peruse this forum you learn what kind of threads are successful (in terms of community interest and # of posts it'll obtain).

Two things I find most respectable about TL is the maturity (which is definitely thanks to the strict and well-done moderation) and the sub-communities. And by sub-communities I mean the little interest groups that pop up in here. The one's i'm most involved in are the HoN thread, NBA thread, and high thread ;D

Regretfully, I have to say that I lost most of my interest in starcraft a while back ago when I started playing DotA but all these other interesting groups and topics keep me busy =)
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