TL Doesn't Suck

On April 21 2010 10:25 Kenpachi wrote:
who said TL sucks?
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On April 21 2010 23:18 iounas wrote:

Its common knowledge that its not a friendly place, mods can close threads and ban you for simple things. Not that these things happened to me, its something I observed..
Its better than battle.net and many threads need a lock but mods are just a bit too strict..
It only takes one mod to close and ban you, and some of them enjoy it and take it too far.

^ oh man double posting... Your gonna get banned for life..

On April 21 2010 23:18 iounas wrote:

Its common knowledge that its not a friendly place, mods can close threads and ban you for simple things. Not that these things happened to me, its something I observed..
Its better than battle.net and many threads need a lock but mods are just a bit too strict..
It only takes one mod to close and ban you, and some of them enjoy it and take it too far.

I remember there was a big friendly discussion about broodlords but now its in closed and poster with ~20000 posts banned.

On April 22 2010 00:30 iounas wrote:
But the point is that its more of a dictatorship than democracy..
I remember there was a big friendly discussion about broodlords but now its in closed and poster with ~20000 posts banned.. Many mods saw until one mod comes and says "wtf is this??? there shall be no discussion about anything without a scientific thesis published in at least 3 magazines"..
And a few days earlier there was a whine TvP post that was open because poster played in some tournaments or is a friend with some mods..yeah democracy..

And there are general questions about the game that gets closed and banned and mods say "Why dont you check that in game yourself?".. Yeah assholes because you and your friends have a key that blizz gave you as a fan site doesn't mean everybody has it.. I dont care about such topics but imagine yourself as a guy watching some sc2 stream seeing something intriguing, googling sc2 and coming here and asking a normal question and you get brushed off.. That doesnt look elitist to you?

On April 22 2010 01:07 iounas wrote:
^ oh man double posting... Your gonna get banned for life..
The reason Im saying this is because I was on a small forum that talks about a lot of games..
Its a small friendly forum with no trolls or bs or 50% topic closing rate and one normal user posted a topic to post your screenshots from some game and said something like "if you can..post it like attach or link for people with slow internet"..
And I take a screenshot from a game and resize it so its like 50kb and embed it and I get a mod warning saying "next time read the rules noob"..
Its a screenshot thread in year 2009 with avatars of bigger size and it wasnt a rule and its a friendly site.. So I unleash a shitstorm of rage and I see my post was reverted but Im never visiting that site again..

On April 22 2010 01:50 Plexa wrote:
I think if you actually look at the threads we close, they are closed for a very good reason. I close a ton of SC2 threads because they are garbage. I've banned maybe 2-3 people for posting crap topics in SC2 - mostly for breaking the guidelines. Usually threads are closed if the question has been answered, or if it is someone just trying to assert their opinion because they think that's how the game should be.

Pokebunny isn't going to be banned for double posting, hell, I've quadruple posted before I was staff. If you are integrated into our community then you'll find that this is a really friendly place and the friendships made here transcend the website. We are a community, and just like a real life community, we hate douchebags who make the community worse. However, unlike real life, we can do something about it here and simply remove them - making the resulting community better for everyone.

Quality attracts quality. So when you only have quality users left then you know that the forum is going to be quality.

On April 22 2010 00:30 iounas wrote:
But the point is that its more of a dictatorship than democracy..
I remember there was a big friendly discussion about broodlords but now its in closed and poster with ~20000 posts banned.. Many mods saw until one mod comes and says "wtf is this??? there shall be no discussion about anything without a scientific thesis published in at least 3 magazines"..
And a few days earlier there was a whine TvP post that was open because poster played in some tournaments or is a friend with some mods..yeah democracy..

And there are general questions about the game that gets closed and banned and mods say "Why dont you check that in game yourself?".. Yeah assholes because you and your friends have a key that blizz gave you as a fan site doesn't mean everybody has it.. I dont care about such topics but imagine yourself as a guy watching some sc2 stream seeing something intriguing, googling sc2 and coming here and asking a normal question and you get brushed off.. That doesnt look elitist to you?

On April 22 2010 03:16 mOnion wrote:


the thread wasn't any more "friendly" than any other QQimba thread and that's charliemurphy who has a history here but still will post garbage threads just for the shit of it. probably the best case of high post counts =/= good poster

here's another one of his fantastic thread

trozz would be a good example of the reciprocate of that. under 400 posts, but everyone loves him.

On April 22 2010 18:42 iounas wrote:

Another older broodlord post popped up:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=114766
I dont see how its any different to that other.. Why isnt this guy banned too..
I dont see 8 replays or 10 page mathematical proof just that they are insane and protoss has no answer..
Its not a democracy..thats why..

Another older broodlord post popped up:

On April 22 2010 20:10 Pokebunny wrote:

You answered your own question:
That was before the new rules were made, and there were other topics like that at the time.

On April 22 2010 18:42 iounas wrote:
Its not a democracy..thats why..

1. THIS IS OUR HOUSE
You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accommodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not a "for profit" enterprise. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course, and that's why we're consistently considered one of the best gaming sites on the web, and you are always free to give us suggestions (Website Feedback Forum). But, we have our limits. If we don't like you, we simply IP ban you. If we're really pissed off, then we IP ban you AND nuke every single post you've uploaded to the site - ever. It will be as if you had never existed here. This is our house. You've been warned.

On April 23 2010 06:49 Senx wrote:
It's amazing the growth this site has had since TSL and Starcraft 2 hit.. I remember when i first started lurking in 2007/2008 It usually had around 600 active members online at any given time, now it's like between 2k-4k at any given time.

Even getting "Server busy" when there's no event or anything going on

On April 23 2010 07:00 Pokebunny wrote:


Totally agree

On April 23 2010 06:49 Senx wrote:
It's amazing the growth this site has had since TSL and Starcraft 2 hit.. I remember when i first started lurking in 2007/2008 It usually had around 600 active members online at any given time, now it's like between 2k-4k at any given time.

Even getting "Server busy" when there's no event or anything going on

On April 23 2010 14:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:
I find it really easy not to get banned on TL or anger the mods by following one simple rule.
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On April 28 2010 17:13 Fontong wrote:

Yeah this is basically the best rule.

It's great because it automatically rules out anything from 4chan or in that style. I've learned everything I know about 4chan from TL. For me it's like a myth in a story that parents tell their children to make them behave.

On April 22 2010 14:34 Roffles wrote:
To be honest, the learning curve to posting on TL is moderately steep. It takes some time to browse around, see what's acceptable, what's not acceptable. I do believe that if you got a random new user to register on TL for the first time today and he made a thread, it'd be almost certainly closed. The one thing I do feel about TL is that at times the colored staff and others with sick icons and stuff can be intimidating. I remember when I first lurked here, I didn't wanna post cause I just thought every post of mine would get ridiculed by that grim reaper guy.

However as I've gotten accustomed to TL, it's become second nature now. What I can do, what I can't do. While the staff and mods here might come off as intimidating, they're fair people. If your thread was closed, it's probably cause it sucked. Sometimes you might feel differently than they do, but I think they give everyone an equal chance.

Once you climb up the ladder and have proven yourself as a contributor to the community, you'll get more leniency and freedom.

On May 01 2010 14:25 Plexa wrote:
No warnings eh?!!!?!?!

User was warned for this post

On April 22 2010 01:07 iounas wrote:
^ oh man double posting... Your gonna get banned for life..
The reason Im saying this is because I was on a small forum that talks about a lot of games..
Its a small friendly forum with no trolls or bs or 50% topic closing rate and one normal user posted a topic to post your screenshots from some game and said something like "if you can..post it like attach or link for people with slow internet"..
And I take a screenshot from a game and resize it so its like 50kb and embed it and I get a mod warning saying "next time read the rules noob"..
Its a screenshot thread in year 2009 with avatars of bigger size and it wasnt a rule and its a friendly site.. So I unleash a shitstorm of rage and I see my post was reverted but Im never visiting that site again..

On April 22 2010 14:34 Roffles wrote:
To be honest, the learning curve to posting on TL is moderately steep. It takes some time to browse around, see what's acceptable, what's not acceptable.

On April 22 2010 14:34 Roffles wrote:
To be honest, the learning curve to posting on TL is moderately steep. It takes some time to browse around, see what's acceptable, what's not acceptable. I do believe that if you got a random new user to register on TL for the first time today and he made a thread, it'd be almost certainly closed. The one thing I do feel about TL is that at times the colored staff and others with sick icons and stuff can be intimidating. I remember when I first lurked here, I didn't wanna post cause I just thought every post of mine would get ridiculed by that grim reaper guy.

However as I've gotten accustomed to TL, it's become second nature now. What I can do, what I can't do. While the staff and mods here might come off as intimidating, they're fair people. If your thread was closed, it's probably cause it sucked. Sometimes you might feel differently than they do, but I think they give everyone an equal chance.

Once you climb up the ladder and have proven yourself as a contributor to the community, you'll get more leniency and freedom.

On April 22 2010 14:34 Roffles wrote:
To be honest, the learning curve to posting on TL is moderately steep.