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On June 18 2011 19:54 Tallrick wrote: You can really see the slump that Tyler's in when he's playing. He's nowhere near this bad when laddering.. Where's the guy who crushed Jinro when he was at his best? Oh well.. Gotta find someone else to root for. ....so you're just a bandwagon fan that can't stomach following someone who isn't dominant? I dont understand this mentality.
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On June 18 2011 19:55 iYiYi wrote: Such a boring game, I think I might be turning Korean. Watching DRG vs SC was much more exciting. Lots more pushes in micro the whole game. These two just turtled forever... yeah but this is just the first day gotta remember that
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On June 18 2011 19:50 whiteLotus wrote: i think david kim was right about broodlords/infestors
Three base versus seven base and if it weren't for broodlord/infestor the game would still be pretty even.
Terran can turtle. Zerg and Protoss MUST have armies that can beat the armies that a Terran can turtle up to on 3 base (even if they just have two running at a time).
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On June 18 2011 19:54 Logros wrote: It's pretty hard to deal with that yeah. You need marines or vikings to deal with broodlords but those get completely shut down by fungal growth and corruptors. Ghosts are probably needed and mass marine drops to abuse the immobility. but imo its difficult to emp if there are overseers and infestors are positioned safely..yea its a 50/50 situation with no hard counters
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On June 18 2011 19:54 Tallrick wrote: You can really see the slump that Tyler's in when he's playing. He's nowhere near this bad when laddering.. Where's the guy who crushed Jinro when he was at his best? Oh well.. Gotta find someone else to root for.
He playing in the NA ladder now he is playing against the top not really a suprice
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mass marine dropping mixed with heavy ghost play dominates that style from zerg.
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On June 18 2011 19:54 Tallrick wrote: You can really see the slump that Tyler's in when he's playing. He's nowhere near this bad when laddering.. Where's the guy who crushed Jinro when he was at his best? Oh well.. Gotta find someone else to root for.
Eh, Tyler beat Jinro at the start of Jinro's slump and when Jinro couldn't buy a win in TvP.
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It's interesting that BratOK doesn't use ghosts. He was one of the Terrans pioneering heavy ghost lategame TvZ before the ghost change in the recent patch, and now that people are saying "you need ghosts" he's gone away from using them.
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On June 18 2011 19:56 Drazerk wrote:Game three now starting on Metalopolis Brat_Ok vs Morrow In the North position is Brat_Ok While in the right is Morrow
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Barracks on the way for Brat_Ok
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On June 18 2011 19:56 Mojar wrote: mass marine dropping mixed with heavy ghost play dominates that style from zerg. stop theorycrafting ffs
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On June 18 2011 19:54 Shalaiyn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:52 frostalgia wrote: even with ghosts this would be unstoppable.. zerg op Neural parasite a ghost. EMP the other ghosts.
oh god please don't
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On June 18 2011 19:56 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:56 Drazerk wrote:Game three now starting on Metalopolis Brat_Ok vs Morrow In the North position is Brat_Ok While in the right is Morrow 2:00 Barracks on the way for Brat_Ok
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Hatch first for Morrow
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What did D.Kim said about broodlord/infestor? Didn't catch that.
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On June 18 2011 19:53 Gaxton wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:52 frostalgia wrote: even with ghosts this would be unstoppable.. zerg op Simply just dont sit back and let zerg get 7 bases and get the deathball.
Indeed.. if you let zerg make all the drones they want.. take all the geysers they want.. etc. than you shouldn't be surprised when you lose.
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On June 18 2011 19:56 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:56 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 19:56 Drazerk wrote:Game three now starting on Metalopolis Brat_Ok vs Morrow In the North position is Brat_Ok While in the right is Morrow 2:00 Barracks on the way for Brat_Ok 2:20 Hatch first for Morrow
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Pool on the way for Morrow
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On June 18 2011 19:54 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:50 pdd wrote: Pure theorycrafting here just from Bratok Morrow game, but why don't Terran go Battlecruisers once they've got a bit of a Viking count? Corrupters get +damage vs massive these days, fungal + corruption + corrupter damage would still chew through everything pretty fast. True, corrupters alone dominate terran air.
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On June 18 2011 19:57 Brainiac wrote: What did D.Kim said about broodlord/infestor? Didn't catch that. Might be adjusting them in the future.
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Maybe this composition is unbeatable. But you have to remember, you just can't get a zerg let that many bases. You are already behind by so much that it is almost impossible to stop. IT would be the same if you have a 7 base Protoss against a 4 base Zerg and keep whining that the deathball keeps rolling you.
You probably made a lot of mistakes on the beginning and are behind by that much, you should lose i that position, even if the ball you are facing seems unstoppable in every way.
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On June 18 2011 19:55 Ketch wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:54 clusen wrote:On June 18 2011 19:53 Elefanto wrote: imagine bratok would have gone for ghost and hsm would be managable O_o He never had enough bases to switch to something like that Brat_Ok had a pretty big bank... Raven with PDD vs Broodlords is also unexplored....
unexplored...and patched out of the game.
Hopefully if this next game reaches the latter stages it is a bit more exciting xD
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On June 18 2011 19:56 Nerdslayer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:54 Tallrick wrote: You can really see the slump that Tyler's in when he's playing. He's nowhere near this bad when laddering.. Where's the guy who crushed Jinro when he was at his best? Oh well.. Gotta find someone else to root for. He playing in the NA ladder now he is playing against the top not really a suprice
tyler hasn't played a game on his NA account in weeks
he doesn't practice as much as everyone else, you cant ride your bw dominance forever
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