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On March 04 2011 21:41 Crashburn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2011 21:39 Mercury- wrote:On March 04 2011 21:36 Crashburn wrote:On March 04 2011 21:36 ToyotomiXD wrote:Lets be honest, without KA protoss would have lost . wrong. Protoss was ahead almost all game. Terran was pushing the entire time until amulet was done actually. Once P has that however he can't really go on the offensive and has to defend against storm/zealot warpins. No. Protoss was up all game. Did you watch the game at all, or did you just sign on to cry imba? Not leaving your base the entire first half of the game = up the whole time. Gotta love P players.
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On March 04 2011 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2011 21:41 Crashburn wrote:On March 04 2011 21:39 Mercury- wrote:On March 04 2011 21:36 Crashburn wrote:On March 04 2011 21:36 ToyotomiXD wrote:Lets be honest, without KA protoss would have lost . wrong. Protoss was ahead almost all game. Terran was pushing the entire time until amulet was done actually. Once P has that however he can't really go on the offensive and has to defend against storm/zealot warpins. No. Protoss was up all game. Did you watch the game at all, or did you just sign on to cry imba? Whining about amulet is the new trend around here.
I mean, it's not like scouting + micro completely deny anything HT's do, right?
How to defend against HT's storming your mineral line: watch the minimap. Wow, that was difficult.
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On March 04 2011 21:39 Mercury- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2011 21:36 Crashburn wrote:On March 04 2011 21:36 ToyotomiXD wrote:Lets be honest, without KA protoss would have lost . wrong. Protoss was ahead almost all game. Terran was pushing the entire time until amulet was done actually. Once P has that however he can't really go on the offensive and has to defend against storm/zealot warpins.
Oh, no, Terran having to defend against drops. How deliciously ironic >_>
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On March 04 2011 21:42 flexy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2011 21:41 Crashburn wrote:On March 04 2011 21:39 Mercury- wrote:On March 04 2011 21:36 Crashburn wrote:On March 04 2011 21:36 ToyotomiXD wrote:Lets be honest, without KA protoss would have lost . wrong. Protoss was ahead almost all game. Terran was pushing the entire time until amulet was done actually. Once P has that however he can't really go on the offensive and has to defend against storm/zealot warpins. No. Protoss was up all game. Did you watch the game at all, or did you just sign on to cry imba? so he was winning the whole time he had less supply and was trapped in his base for the first 15min? HUH :\
Killer was up 1 base practically the entire game and Protoss units cost more so hitting supply cap takes more time for them
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On March 04 2011 21:43 anatem wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2011 21:40 Vorlik wrote:On March 04 2011 21:36 Crashburn wrote:On March 04 2011 21:36 ToyotomiXD wrote:Lets be honest, without KA protoss would have lost . wrong. Protoss was ahead almost all game. Wrong. He was not ahead all game at all. true, he wasn't ahead, but he didn't win it because of amulet. he won it because he won the first engagement due to money forcefields, and because mma had poor expansion timing
No.. he just decided to mass units instead of getting an expo.
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i honestly dont think people whined this much about amulet until AFTER changes had been announced for the future patch
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On March 04 2011 21:45 Supamang wrote: i honestly dont think people whined this much about amulet until AFTER changes had been announced for the future patch
You're right. It's kind of funny how patch changes dictate the popular perception of what is imba.
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On March 04 2011 21:45 Supamang wrote: i honestly dont think people whined this much about amulet until AFTER changes had been announced for the future patch
Haha, exactly.
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On March 04 2011 21:44 udgnim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2011 21:42 flexy wrote:On March 04 2011 21:41 Crashburn wrote:On March 04 2011 21:39 Mercury- wrote:On March 04 2011 21:36 Crashburn wrote:On March 04 2011 21:36 ToyotomiXD wrote:Lets be honest, without KA protoss would have lost . wrong. Protoss was ahead almost all game. Terran was pushing the entire time until amulet was done actually. Once P has that however he can't really go on the offensive and has to defend against storm/zealot warpins. No. Protoss was up all game. Did you watch the game at all, or did you just sign on to cry imba? so he was winning the whole time he had less supply and was trapped in his base for the first 15min? HUH :\ Killer was up 1 base practically the entire game and Protoss units cost more so hitting supply cap takes more time for them
yeah.. not really. MMA killed like 5 workers on his third while he expanded himself.. basically evened out the 20-30 seconds that Killer had a 3rd before him + he lost the workers
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On March 04 2011 21:45 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2011 21:45 Supamang wrote: i honestly dont think people whined this much about amulet until AFTER changes had been announced for the future patch You're right. It's kind of funny how patch changes dictate the popular perception of what is imba.
well actually I still think Colossus is the best unit in the game right now..
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On March 04 2011 21:39 Vorlik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2011 21:36 Kavas wrote: Obvious winner. MMA just walking around like he doesn't know what to do in that game. Seems like he doesn't know how to TvP at all. What games were you watching? he owned killer in game 1, and game 3 wasn't that one-sided. His walking around was trying to get killers army out of position to get a nice concave, which he eventually achieved to an extent.
Game 1 MMA got a huge advantage from his initial push and everything snowballed from there. He even let Killer back into the game but luckily attacked before KA was finished and too many HT was on the field.
Game 3 he never got a third CC, probably decided for a 2 base timing push but did not. Hardly dropped (I think twice?), saw his opponent expanded but didn't do anything in response. Kept scanning hoping to catch protoss army out of position but did little else except move his marauders around. Did not even try to snipe the proxy pylon that was warping zealots and HTs that were harrassing his mineral lines. I'm sure his multitask can cope with it since he beat Ret by dropping and outmacroing him.
Guy was probably having a bad day and I don't hate him for it. Still doesn't change that that last game was bad (note I'm only referring to the last game. First game was so-so. Second was pretty good. Last game was horrible.)
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On March 04 2011 21:44 flexy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2011 21:43 anatem wrote:On March 04 2011 21:40 Vorlik wrote:On March 04 2011 21:36 Crashburn wrote:On March 04 2011 21:36 ToyotomiXD wrote:Lets be honest, without KA protoss would have lost . wrong. Protoss was ahead almost all game. Wrong. He was not ahead all game at all. true, he wasn't ahead, but he didn't win it because of amulet. he won it because he won the first engagement due to money forcefields, and because mma had poor expansion timing No.. he just decided to mass units instead of getting an expo.
and then tried to keep the gold with his main orbital. he could've double expoed before he pushed the toss since he missed the pre-storm timing anyway, and he knew it.
call it poor expo timing or poor attack timing, he made a bad call that was enough to lose him the game, since sangho squeezed every unit and probe out of the extra time mma gave him
must agree though, he had observers roaming free throughout the game, and that gave him quite the edge, mma should have tried to control that, but he couldn't because he went pretty much allin
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On March 04 2011 21:44 Crashburn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2011 21:42 tomatriedes wrote:On March 04 2011 21:41 Crashburn wrote:On March 04 2011 21:39 Mercury- wrote:On March 04 2011 21:36 Crashburn wrote:On March 04 2011 21:36 ToyotomiXD wrote:Lets be honest, without KA protoss would have lost . wrong. Protoss was ahead almost all game. Terran was pushing the entire time until amulet was done actually. Once P has that however he can't really go on the offensive and has to defend against storm/zealot warpins. No. Protoss was up all game. Did you watch the game at all, or did you just sign on to cry imba? Whining about amulet is the new trend around here. I mean, it's not like scouting + micro completely deny anything HT's do, right? How to defend against HT's storming your mineral line: watch the minimap. Wow, that was difficult.
so you never warp in HT's to defend your own mineral line from drops cause you watch the minimap right?
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No upsets today, that's a surprise
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Great games from SangHo, I was waiting for this guy to finally show how good he is.
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lol no points today, normally I would get 1 or 2 points at least. But I have to say I couldn't care less about todays matches.
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Yay supernova and Sangho.
And how was Rain? Did he actually play well, or is he just "winning"
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On March 05 2011 03:38 1Eris1 wrote: Yay supernova and Sangho.
And how was Rain? Did he actually play well, or is he just "winning" He actually played quite yell. Had pretty good banshee micro and just was able to keep air dominance all game long and pick apart JJun's army.
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