On January 10 2011 05:52 annul wrote:
okay. well, apparently i am not unlynchable.
okay. well, apparently i am not unlynchable.
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Kavdragon
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On January 10 2011 05:52 annul wrote: okay. well, apparently i am not unlynchable. Show nested quote + Original Message From LSB: You can post this PM chain if you want. Original Message From annul: the ability does not say i get night life. it says i gain +1 life for 48 hours. well fuck i am glad i asked i guess Original Message From LSB: You can't be protected from a lynch. Besides for Ace's role in segunko (which was just weird), the lynch has historically killed everyone regardless of protection / night lives. Original Message From annul: ?? wtf Original Message From LSB: Nope. Lynch is the kill all. For example, a veteran can be lynched. Original Message From annul: my ability says i gain "+1 life" for 48 hours this means i am unlynchable while this is active, correct? Read the forum. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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Kavdragon
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Some people say there isn't a lot to analyze. I disagree. Firstly, it doesn't take tons of posts for someone to post something that is incriminating. Secondly, we have 4-5 pages of content, and only 7 players filling them. I think that's plenty of content. It's just that everyone is getting distracted by all the items/PMs. Town wins the game because of good scum hunting. We should not assume that town will use their items cleverly, and win it that way. For the town to use KP we need to know who to use it on. This requires scum hunting. So let's go scum hunt. | ||
Nemesis
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I rather find his arguments concerning RoL being mafia as crap. He is WIFOMing about having an ability to redirect, and that he should be trusted because LD trusted him. Also, even though there is still the posibility of both of them actually being town, I find the timing of the kill rather convenient to be a coincidence. Kavdragon, if you don't think either of them is scum, then who do you suggest we lynch? I would also like to hear what Node and chip has to say about the current situation. | ||
chipmonkey
United States28 Posts
DL certainly wouldn't kill himself... So one of these two people has to be a mafia, unless they leaked info of the contracts to some other person not mentioned. I'm not going to buy a coincidence that DL died before he could take a shot. I'm going to vote to lynch Annul, and if he turns out to be good, we can always lynch the other the next phase. One for one doesn't seem like a bad trade. ##Vote: Annul | ||
Kavdragon
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Look: Everyone knew that he was a day vig. This means that he's a prime target for mafia. They very likely some sort of day KP, or they could have traded for it. The only suspicious part is that it happened in the window of time when Annul knew what was going down. Obviously LD wouldn't kill himself. That doesn't mean that one of the two is mafia. The mafia knew he was a good target, he was calling for protection, and he was scheduled to make a hit tonight. It makes sense for him to be killed at that time. Again, it's not a coincidence that he was killed before he took the shot. It's a coincidence that it happened after Annul found out that LD would be protected, and before he actually got the protection. You your self said that you expected the mafia to hit him last night If we lynch annul, and he's town, then that doesn't mean that RoL is mafia. I think he's town. Let's not make rash assumptions. | ||
annul
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i can PROVE, 100% of the time, that i am what i say i am EVERY SINGLE PLAYER who wishes to see the abilities i have, what they are and can do, etc, can see it. i will contract with every player in this game to do the following i will agree to create a trust entitled "annul proves his abilities to (your name)", to which i will transfer "all my items and money." both myself and (your name) will be joint trustees, and neither player will be able to use the items or money in the trust without the consent of the other. annul may revoke the trust at any time." i will then consent to allow you to use your money to protect yourself. when you send in the command to LSB to "buy protection for yourself using the defense contact" (my item's name), when the money is deducted from your account and the protection is granted, you will see what the contact does: 48 hours of +1 life for 200000 kronos. unlimited usage as long as you have the money. because the contract is worded in a way where i give ALL my money and items to the trust, there is no room for manipulation - you will see ALL that i have (which is only the contact/money). i cant hold anything back the way the K is written. you will see it, you will have access to my protection, and with your own money, you will buy yourself 48 hours of an extra life. every single player who wishes to do this will get the chance to do so by me. AIM me at annulvapore for quicker contact, or PM me. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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But besides that, lets focus on a big point. I don't believe for a second that your only power is protection. From what you told me you hire a merc group who protects whoever you say to protect. I can't see a merc group only existing for protection. In fact, I would think its a safe assumption that you have more powers then that which you would prefer to not share with us. The issue with your contract plan is we can't confirm that you are sharing ALL your powers with us. The thing is we can't prove you are sharing everything with us, and could just be showing us a single power. You are getting desperate and forgetting the rules of contracts now. You KNOW that LSB won't confirm/deny if you have any extra powers and we can't prove that you do or don't so you will never be caught lying in the contract. You know this because you tried doing something like that with LD and it didn't work, and now you are trying to pretend that you don't realize we can't know if you are sharing all your information with us. All we can know is if your ability you are showing us exists if your contract works. Your arguments have been shitty, flawed, and grasping at straws just like in XXXV. You are using the same arguments as you did in XXV to discredit LSB except against me. The thing is I am better at arguing and point out the holes in all the shit you say. The fact is you knew my BPV to LD would take away your control over his fate and he coincidentally dies before getting my vest? You are the only person who knew about that contract and thought you saw a hole to exploit. Your own arrogance was your demise, in PM games all I do early on is trap people with information, you thought you saw a hole but I just left that to see if you would jump on it. Hell, even if I thought you were town I would of tried doing that to you just to see if you would bite. The way you responded in thread though made me sure you are mafia. Hell guys, if I am wrong go ahead and lynch me tomorrow rofl, to me this is a sure thing. Annul repeating the same mistakes trying to do the same shit he knows won't work to try to save his ass last minute, its pathetic. | ||
annul
United States2841 Posts
i can PROVE to you that i am a medic. prove it. I CAN PROVE I AM A MEDIC. i am willing to allow every player get protection every single night phase. there will be no standard mafia kills for the entire game. not one. i will perform the same contract with every living player during the night phase provided i am alive. every single player will be able to buy an extra life for 200k for 48 hours however many times they want. like i really dont know how much more pro-town a player needs to be than to promise five extra lives to players whenever they want them -- and be able to deliver. | ||
annul
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THINK, town. specifically, think monkey and think nemesis. whichever one of you is not the second red, THINK really hard about what i am promising the town. | ||
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On January 10 2011 17:01 annul wrote: THINK, town. specifically, think monkey and think nemesis. whichever one of you is not the second red, THINK really hard about what i am promising the town. one of you needs to revote off of me, otherwise i AM dead with 3 votes and being the first to reach 3, even if node and kav hit ROL with me in the future. | ||
RebirthOfLeGenD
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On January 10 2011 17:01 annul wrote: the fact that ROL looks at what i am willing to do and says "WELP too bad kill him anyway" is the clearest sign that he is a mafia. THINK, town. specifically, think monkey and think nemesis. whichever one of you is not the second red, THINK really hard about what i am promising the town. This is more of your attempt to put words in my mouth and say things I never said. I said you are claiming you can prove something which you can, but not even answering when I am saying how you can hide any other ability you want. In case you aren't getting what I am saying yet. I DO NOT BELIEVE FOR A SECOND THAT YOUR POWER IS LIMITED TO JUST PROTECTS. Got it? Even Kavdragon the only person who wants to try to play devil's advocate says he thinks you most likely have another power you are not admitting to. I will give you a hint, the only person not voting for you right now is Kavdragon because he still believes this LD shit might be a coincidence and Node because hes your scumbuddy. After you flip red hes my next target, and when I am sure I die tonight you guys better remember what I said. Node is trying to avoid implicating himself by commenting on the situation with his partner, that would be my not so humble guess. But time will tell on that. Annul you aren't going to get off the hook, stop making shit up. | ||
annul
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LSB CAN confirm the presence of all ITEMS in one's possession. so, again, i ask does anyone in this game have an ability that is not powered by an item? if anyone wishes to claim this, i have a way to prove it 100% as well. you prove all your items using the K trick i discussed above, and then you write a second K saying "agree to use an ability other than the ones derived from (item A/B/C/whatever). failure to do so within 5 minutes of contract execution will result in an immediate modkill." so they then prove it, or they die. pretty easy to do. but with all of the above being said, and with all of the contract tricks involved to verify claims, there is one very very critical point you continue to overlook. I AM PROMISING MEDIC PROTECTION TO EVERY SINGLE PLAYER IN THIS GAME. every single non-voting death can be prevented. every single one. since there will be 5 players left once the voting finishes, and mafia only has 1 night kill, EVERY single possible night kill can be prevented in this game. with 1 mill to use, there is enough money to save players 5 times. and i will allow every player to use my item to do this. | ||
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