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A) Balance wise, it is more than likely that one of the runners is mafia. This has happened many times in terms of distribution, for those that doesnt know rol distribution is not completely random. see this is where you are wrong because flamewheel91 specifically said all roles were randomly chosen so there is a possibility we the town got the three best players all running
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So, say you push and really get a campaign going (this is insanely late but ok lets run with it). You start your campaign by talking about the balance sense.
On March 12 2010 08:11 flamewheel91 wrote: Completely randomized through a number generator.
We know from the mod himself, that he didn't balance teams in a sense (or at least is saying he didnt).
Having a mafia in office this game only fucks us if hes mayor. And even then a dt role checks him and outs him. It's alot riskier this game for them to be in office if they can get outed instantly. Yes this means the GF could run, but depending on the role he takes on, or based on posting behaviour, this still screws the mafia. Putting the GF out in the limelight is seriously rough.
As for your activity point. I think that its hard to judge at the moment. Based on posting, I know im town, and have roleclaimed (even if earlier than I intended), meanwhile, both Incog and L seem to be town as well. This game seems to be slower as it appears as if the mafia has no idea how to discredit us. I think that should be obvious.
Yes I'm a nonvoter, I am still deciding on who is best to vote for, I am leaning towards L at the moment though.
Now as a question I have for you. Your a veteran player yourself, just as capable of being red for the same reason you outlined of us in your post above. What makes you a better candidate when you have offered no plan on how to even proceed.
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On March 12 2010 16 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 12 2010 16 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:12 L wrote: Oh hey, good of you to join the party.
Did you finally get picked for the mafia team? If not, are you claiming blue by running? Who would you kill if voted mayor and who would you like to get voted in if you can't get in?
Sleep time, but I EXPECT ANSWERS.
Yeah L i know u like to get people accounted for.
-Not mafia.
-Not claimming. But i let you search my rol list from previous games and let you think.
-I have 2 people in mind: versatile and one of the people running. Ill post tomorrow my reasons if you like to know. Lynching an inactive/spammer is another chance but i think we can get more info from a more strong lynch at first. There has been some back and forth up to now in the thread.
-Im voting you. I know i can spot you doing your weird mafia stuff and i also know you are valuable if town. Honeslty id really want to be there, i hope i dont end up kicking you away from a spot but as i said at this point im a very good player to get in.
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The non-posters for L league?
On March 12 2010 16:26 sidesprang wrote: I vote for L
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damn i might just change my vote so i don't get grouped with scummy looking people
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On March 12 2010 16:41 johnnyspazz wrote: damn i might just change my vote so i don't get grouped with scummy looking people
Right. Because thats not scummy at all.
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On March 12 2010 16:42 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 16:41 johnnyspazz wrote: damn i might just change my vote so i don't get grouped with scummy looking people Right. Because thats not scummy at all.
He could appear to be playing like chez!
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well i wasn't trying to look scummy this is what i want to happen: BC -> Mayor; L -> Pardoner BC for mayor because apparently he's DT and DTs are very important L for pardoner because he said he has a game winning plan that involves sacing himself as the pardoner
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On March 12 2010 16:45 johnnyspazz wrote: well i wasn't trying to look scummy this is what i want to happen: BC -> Mayor; L -> Pardoner BC for mayor because apparently he's DT and DTs are very important L for pardoner because he said he has a game winning plan that involves sacing himself as the pardoner
Wat. He never said that. Here we go again.
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This is my first post, its coming up really late. Sorry about that, FF13 messed up my schoolwork which then again messed up my mafiaposting.
I've now read through all the posts, and i ended up voting for L. Beliving he is the best bet for pro-town player. Tho honestly i dont think im capable of spotting scummy behavior this early in the game :S When i analyzed players before i usualy was looking at clues because that was the easiest(altho im usualy wrong there to ).
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oh i see so IF he's green that's what he's going to do whatever, my vote right now is for BC so that he gets Mayor i dont care at the moment if either you or L get pardoner
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On March 12 2010 16:48 sidesprang wrote:This is my first post, its coming up really late. Sorry about that, FF13 messed up my schoolwork which then again messed up my mafiaposting. I've now read through all the posts, and i ended up voting for L. Beliving he is the best bet for pro-town player. Tho honestly i dont think im capable of spotting scummy behavior this early in the game :S When i analyzed players before i usualy was looking at clues because that was the easiest(altho im usualy wrong there to ). i hate excuses. why would you sign up for a mafia game if you weren't committed to it? is it cause you didn't get a MAFIA role this game? also wouldn't you rather have a DT in office? you should let this game mess up your schoolwork not FF13.
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On March 12 2010 16:57 johnnyspazz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 16:48 sidesprang wrote:This is my first post, its coming up really late. Sorry about that, FF13 messed up my schoolwork which then again messed up my mafiaposting. I've now read through all the posts, and i ended up voting for L. Beliving he is the best bet for pro-town player. Tho honestly i dont think im capable of spotting scummy behavior this early in the game :S When i analyzed players before i usualy was looking at clues because that was the easiest(altho im usualy wrong there to ). i hate excuses. why would you sign up for a mafia game if you weren't committed to it? is it cause you didn't get a MAFIA role this game? also wouldn't you rather have a DT in office? you should let this game mess up your schoolwork not FF13.
oh noes im 24 hours late, did not know that was a make it or break it kinda situation. And yes im not a red role, but if i played only to play red that would make most of the games pretty dull would it not ? And ofc i would have a DT in the office if that could be 100% guarranteed. And lastly, I've waited way longer for FF13 than this mafia game, so atm FF > school > mafia, (ofc RL stuff is in there too )
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On March 12 2010 17:13 sidesprang wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 16:57 johnnyspazz wrote:On March 12 2010 16:48 sidesprang wrote:This is my first post, its coming up really late. Sorry about that, FF13 messed up my schoolwork which then again messed up my mafiaposting. I've now read through all the posts, and i ended up voting for L. Beliving he is the best bet for pro-town player. Tho honestly i dont think im capable of spotting scummy behavior this early in the game :S When i analyzed players before i usualy was looking at clues because that was the easiest(altho im usualy wrong there to ). i hate excuses. why would you sign up for a mafia game if you weren't committed to it? is it cause you didn't get a MAFIA role this game? also wouldn't you rather have a DT in office? you should let this game mess up your schoolwork not FF13. oh noes im 24 hours late, did not know that was a make it or break it kinda situation. And yes im not a red role, but if i played only to play red that would make most of the games pretty dull would it not ? And ofc i would have a DT in the office if that could be 100% guarranteed. And lastly, I've waited way longer for FF13 than this mafia game, so atm FF > school > mafia, (ofc RL stuff is in there too )
NOBODY CARES!
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On March 12 2010 17:52 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 17:13 sidesprang wrote:On March 12 2010 16:57 johnnyspazz wrote:On March 12 2010 16:48 sidesprang wrote:This is my first post, its coming up really late. Sorry about that, FF13 messed up my schoolwork which then again messed up my mafiaposting. I've now read through all the posts, and i ended up voting for L. Beliving he is the best bet for pro-town player. Tho honestly i dont think im capable of spotting scummy behavior this early in the game :S When i analyzed players before i usualy was looking at clues because that was the easiest(altho im usualy wrong there to ). i hate excuses. why would you sign up for a mafia game if you weren't committed to it? is it cause you didn't get a MAFIA role this game? also wouldn't you rather have a DT in office? you should let this game mess up your schoolwork not FF13. oh noes im 24 hours late, did not know that was a make it or break it kinda situation. And yes im not a red role, but if i played only to play red that would make most of the games pretty dull would it not ? And ofc i would have a DT in the office if that could be 100% guarranteed. And lastly, I've waited way longer for FF13 than this mafia game, so atm FF > school > mafia, (ofc RL stuff is in there too ) NOBODY CARES!
he asked i answered.
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L is elected Bill Murray gets lynched the town loses an active poster
I implore you all to consider voting for BloodyC0bbler. I don't mind L becoming pardoner. I actually don't believe L is red this game. It's just really fishy that he's implied he's a dt, implied he's a bus driver, and implied that he's a green on a suicide mission to discover the mafia. I hope he's any of these, as long as he isn't red, but I'd be hoping for it more if he wasn't after my head.
Other than his wanting to kill me, I'll explain why it is best to not vote for him in layman's terms. He is a loose cannon. When you get a player like BC or Incognito, even d3_crescentia, you get someone who is analytical and normal. They will react coolly to nearly any situation. L is obviously not as cool acting as he would have you believe. He holds grudges, he rages over actions, and he has been acting scummy regardless of whether or not he is red which has been detrimental to the town.
If elected, would I lynch L? ____ no. He is too valuable to lynch if he really IS something like the bus driver. I would be much more apt to go for someone who is going to be modkilled anyways if that is possible. There is a higher percentage of town vs mafia, and thus a higher propensity of picking a town member than a mafia member in a stupid day 1 lynch where you have literally no information of any substance, weight, or value.
Do the right thing, vote for BloodyC0bbler or Incognito. Don't vote for someone who changes their mind like L.
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Probably the best written message I've ever seen from you Bill.
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On March 12 2010 16:36 Incognito wrote:The non-posters for L league? The non-posters for Incog league?
incognito 6 billmurray versatile abenson xelin cynanmachae fishball
I mean, did you even look at who's voting for you?
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On March 12 2010 20:26 Bill Murray wrote: L is elected Bill Murray gets lynched the town loses an active poster
I implore you all to consider voting for BloodyC0bbler. I don't mind L becoming pardoner. I actually don't believe L is red this game. It's just really fishy that he's implied he's a dt, implied he's a bus driver, and implied that he's a green on a suicide mission to discover the mafia. I hope he's any of these, as long as he isn't red, but I'd be hoping for it more if he wasn't after my head.
Other than his wanting to kill me, I'll explain why it is best to not vote for him in layman's terms. He is a loose cannon. When you get a player like BC or Incognito, even d3_crescentia, you get someone who is analytical and normal. They will react coolly to nearly any situation. L is obviously not as cool acting as he would have you believe. He holds grudges, he rages over actions, and he has been acting scummy regardless of whether or not he is red which has been detrimental to the town.
If elected, would I lynch L? ____ no. He is too valuable to lynch if he really IS something like the bus driver. I would be much more apt to go for someone who is going to be modkilled anyways if that is possible. There is a higher percentage of town vs mafia, and thus a higher propensity of picking a town member than a mafia member in a stupid day 1 lynch where you have literally no information of any substance, weight, or value.
Do the right thing, vote for BloodyC0bbler or Incognito. Don't vote for someone who changes their mind like L. I want to kill you mostly because you've really posted nothing besides attempts to save yourself by discrediting me. That's literally 100% of your post content. If you were pro-town, you'd probably be trying to generate some form of theory of the game or produce other content as well, but that's asking too much of you, it would seem.
I haven't even posted about killing you in like 10 pages, yet you send me pms like "COULD YOU POSSIBLY NOT KILL ME PLEASE" and post consistently on that one message. Feels like you're waaaaay too desperate green role, but trying some shitty last minute candidacy is a pretty shit move if you're blue given that you just put a massive spotlight on yourself. Even if the mayor doesn't kill you, you're probably going to be hit early if you aren't red.
Overall that means you're likely mafia, and I think you're the best shot we have over anyone else today. I probably wasn't going to actually kill you if voted in as mayor because I wanted to kill someone else for suspicious posting, but you went and one-upped him or her by a huge margin.
Sorry broski
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On March 12 2010 11:47 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 11:44 JeeJee wrote:On March 12 2010 11:29 johnnyspazz wrote:Someone said that I'm running on the basis that I'm blue: I'm not. Greens shouldn't be running for office unless they plan on losing. i i'm a little confused here it's true he's running on the basis that he has a role that makes him want mayor and is not green he's just basically leaving open the possibility to go "lulz im a not-aligned busdriver" Did you read what I wrote about being green? I would suggest that you check the part involving someone killing themselves with the addendum that says "the only player in this game who's ballsy enough to do that is L". Am I L? Oh, looks like I am. Hence if I'm running as green, I'm going to kill myself as confirmation in the part of a larger plan. 2+2.
except you're not you have explcitly stated you're running for mayor, not pardoner you've also explicitly stated anyone running for mayor as a green is doing dumb shit and wants to lose. ergo, unless you're doing dumb shit and want town to lose, you're not green
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