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On October 02 2024 23:53 NewSunshine wrote: Trump, getting convicted of fraud at 79? Turn his life around?
Just imagine the inspirational success story of a felon who became so rehabilitated as to accede to the presidency of the US.
It's been curious watching Republicans try to have their cake and eat it too in real time, when it comes to posturing as the "rule of law" party. Trump has been very open about the crimes he's committed, and finally capped it off with a conviction of 34 counts of fraud this summer. His buddy Vance showed last night that he also doesn't seem to understand how the law works, guess it doesn't seem to be a requisite for Republican leadership anymore.
If there's one thing Republicans had been consistent on until Drumpf was convicted, it was their support of Democratic prosecutors in their application of the law. From Chesa Boudin to Andrew Warren to Kim Foxx to Kamala Harris to Merrick Garland and the Obama and Biden DOJs to the FBI and CIA... it's only when they finally convict Drumpf of fraud to influence an election that already happened that Republicans cry foul and take back their unconditional support.
On October 02 2024 23:53 NewSunshine wrote: Trump, getting convicted of fraud at 79? Turn his life around?
Just imagine the inspirational success story of a felon who became so rehabilitated as to accede to the presidency of the US.
I would expect such a person to at least confess their wrongdoing to know that they have truly repented and wouldn't simply be a repeat offender. Trump seems constitutionally incapable of doing that minimal but necessary action. Where's his come to Jesus moment?
Come to Jesus? July 13th, there were some loud popping noises when Drumpf fell at a rally.
Pretty sure the well is poisoned at that point, Drumpf could come out as FDR tomorrow with a weeping apology and be met with "so now apologize for lying about xyz, too bad can't trust someone who admits to lying."
On October 03 2024 01:43 Falling wrote: How can we say he has rehabilitated when he continues to maintain the same lie that he never lost the election and he did nothing wrong with putting forth the false elector slate?
Firstly because that wasn't any of the 34 counts, but for curiosity's sake when's the last time he continued to maintain that?
He said that in his debate against Harris. Not sure if he's said it more recently than that.
On October 02 2024 23:53 NewSunshine wrote: Trump, getting convicted of fraud at 79? Turn his life around?
Just imagine the inspirational success story of a felon who became so rehabilitated as to accede to the presidency of the US.
It's been curious watching Republicans try to have their cake and eat it too in real time, when it comes to posturing as the "rule of law" party. Trump has been very open about the crimes he's committed, and finally capped it off with a conviction of 34 counts of fraud this summer. His buddy Vance showed last night that he also doesn't seem to understand how the law works, guess it doesn't seem to be a requisite for Republican leadership anymore.
If there's one thing Republicans had been consistent on until Drumpf was convicted, it was their support of Democratic prosecutors in their application of the law. From Chesa Boudin to Andrew Warren to Kim Foxx to Kamala Harris to Merrick Garland and the Obama and Biden DOJs to the FBI and CIA... it's only when they finally convict Drumpf of fraud to influence an election that already happened that Republicans cry foul and take back their unconditional support.
On October 03 2024 01:43 Falling wrote:
On October 03 2024 00:32 oBlade wrote:
On October 02 2024 23:53 NewSunshine wrote: Trump, getting convicted of fraud at 79? Turn his life around?
Just imagine the inspirational success story of a felon who became so rehabilitated as to accede to the presidency of the US.
I would expect such a person to at least confess their wrongdoing to know that they have truly repented and wouldn't simply be a repeat offender. Trump seems constitutionally incapable of doing that minimal but necessary action. Where's his come to Jesus moment?
Come to Jesus? July 13th, there were some loud popping noises when Drumpf fell at a rally.
Pretty sure the well is poisoned at that point, Drumpf could come out as FDR tomorrow with a weeping apology and be met with "so now apologize for lying about xyz, too bad can't trust someone who admits to lying."
On October 03 2024 01:43 Falling wrote: How can we say he has rehabilitated when he continues to maintain the same lie that he never lost the election and he did nothing wrong with putting forth the false elector slate?
Firstly because that wasn't any of the 34 counts, but for curiosity's sake when's the last time he continued to maintain that?
He said that in his debate against Harris. Not sure if he's said it more recently than that.
And Vance essentially repeated it by refusing to say Trump lost in 2020. If Trump wasn't trying to maintain the lie, Vance wouldn't have to shy away from the truth.
On October 03 2024 02:18 oBlade wrote: when's the last time he continued to maintain that?
He's claimed that he's won hundreds of times and not once conceded that he didn't. He's gone so far as to recently claim that he would have won California had he not been cheated. Given the overwhelming evidence that he maintains it and the complete absence of any evidence to the contrary why is the burden on us to provide evidence that he still maintains it? Why are you not providing evidence that he no longer maintains it?
On October 03 2024 02:18 oBlade wrote: when's the last time he continued to maintain that?
He's claimed that he's won hundreds of times and not once conceded that he didn't. He's gone so far as to recently claim that he would have won California had he not been cheated. Given the overwhelming evidence that he maintains it and the complete absence of any evidence to the contrary why is the burden on us to provide evidence that he still maintains it? Why are you not providing evidence that he no longer maintains it?
Well, he has evidence, he has a friend who thinks Trump admitted defeat just the other day!
On October 02 2024 23:53 NewSunshine wrote: Trump, getting convicted of fraud at 79? Turn his life around?
Just imagine the inspirational success story of a felon who became so rehabilitated as to accede to the presidency of the US.
It's been curious watching Republicans try to have their cake and eat it too in real time, when it comes to posturing as the "rule of law" party. Trump has been very open about the crimes he's committed, and finally capped it off with a conviction of 34 counts of fraud this summer. His buddy Vance showed last night that he also doesn't seem to understand how the law works, guess it doesn't seem to be a requisite for Republican leadership anymore.
If there's one thing Republicans had been consistent on until Drumpf was convicted, it was their support of Democratic prosecutors in their application of the law. From Chesa Boudin to Andrew Warren to Kim Foxx to Kamala Harris to Merrick Garland and the Obama and Biden DOJs to the FBI and CIA... it's only when they finally convict Drumpf of fraud to influence an election that already happened that Republicans cry foul and take back their unconditional support.
On October 03 2024 01:43 Falling wrote:
On October 03 2024 00:32 oBlade wrote:
On October 02 2024 23:53 NewSunshine wrote: Trump, getting convicted of fraud at 79? Turn his life around?
Just imagine the inspirational success story of a felon who became so rehabilitated as to accede to the presidency of the US.
I would expect such a person to at least confess their wrongdoing to know that they have truly repented and wouldn't simply be a repeat offender. Trump seems constitutionally incapable of doing that minimal but necessary action. Where's his come to Jesus moment?
Come to Jesus? July 13th, there were some loud popping noises when Drumpf fell at a rally.
Pretty sure the well is poisoned at that point, Drumpf could come out as FDR tomorrow with a weeping apology and be met with "so now apologize for lying about xyz, too bad can't trust someone who admits to lying."
On October 03 2024 01:43 Falling wrote: How can we say he has rehabilitated when he continues to maintain the same lie that he never lost the election and he did nothing wrong with putting forth the false elector slate?
Firstly because that wasn't any of the 34 counts, but for curiosity's sake when's the last time he continued to maintain that?
He said that in his debate against Harris. Not sure if he's said it more recently than that.
And Vance essentially repeated it by refusing to say Trump lost in 2020. If Trump wasn't trying to maintain the lie, Vance wouldn't have to shy away from the truth.
Excellent conversation with Kamala Harris - relatable, personable, optimistic, pleasant, passionate. It was certainly a "softball" interview, but they did talk about certain contemporary issues and policies (the importance of fighting for civil rights, how her presidential vision will continue to improve our economy and make goods and services more affordable for average families, etc.).
5:15 - At least she says it "breaks her heart" to see what has become of her hometown of Oakland and the shuttered businesses she sees when she lands at Oakland airport and drives through the area. Unfortunately she wants to blame the Oakland sports teams for leaving when she should be attributing it to the crime that has been allowed to fester out of control.