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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
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RenSC2
United States1009 Posts
On January 10 2024 06:10 Djabanete wrote: Has anybody been seeing these "END ROAD WORK" signs lately? I think it's one of the silliest political slogans ever. Seems like at almost every road work site I drive past, some tomfool has put up a sign. Do they not realize that roads need constant maintenance? How do they think anything ever gets fixed?? Haven’t seen that unless you mean the signs at the end of a section of road being worked on. They say “End Road Work”, but they’re just telling you that the road work section is over and you can go back to normal speeds. ![[image loading]](https://www.trafficsafetywarehouse.com/Images/endroadwork-1Z.png) Are you MEMEing in here? | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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MJG
United Kingdom774 Posts
Didn't Watergate already show this to be false since Nixon needed to be given a Presidential pardon? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21109 Posts
On January 10 2024 19:43 MJG wrote: Because he really doesn't want to go to jail.Can somebody explain to me why Trump is trying to claim that he is immune from prosecution whilst President? Didn't Watergate already show this to be false since Nixon needed to be given a Presidential pardon? He has 0 chance of claiming immunity but even tho everyone knows this he is still legally allowed to make his case and then have it rejected. That's why its now in the appeals court and will no doubt then go to the supreme court. And after its turned down there he is finally out of options. All Trump is doing in every single one of the many court cases he is currently involved in surrounding the election and Jan 6th is stalling and trying to buy time until the election, after which he can, if he wins, hide behind the Office of President again. | ||
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Vivax
21676 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland22452 Posts
On January 12 2024 06:33 Vivax wrote: It‘s a bit surprising that ‚gerontocracy‘ isn‘t a more frequent part of the vocabulary in these threads. Can‘t really expect golfing old men (and the comparatively few women) to be a solution to problems they aren‘t a part of because they didn‘t experience the contemporary ones. Unsurprisingly that‘s also the population layer they distribute the wealth to. To a degree, although I think the whole class disconnect way outweighs the generational aspect, or the general corruption of money and lobbying. Or that complacent incumbency is the actual problem and advancing age is just a byproduct of it. So perhaps others feel similarly and tend to focus less on the age factor. Most don’t have much first-hand experience of living on the poverty line regardless of age profile, but this doesn’t necessarily preclude them understanding these issues through a combination of logic, empathy and looking at some numbers. From my particular leaning Bernie Sanders, who’s a pretty old dude isn’t really saying anything different from an AOC, who’s a relatively baby age wise. To pick just one comparison With the possible exception of technological literacy, which amongst comparable Western nations the US’ legislatures seem particularly deficient in. That does definitely seem linked with Congress’ comparative decrepitude | ||
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Gahlo
United States35059 Posts
On January 12 2024 07:03 WombaT wrote: To a degree, although I think the whole class disconnect way outweighs the generational aspect, or the general corruption of money and lobbying. Or that complacent incumbency is the actual problem and advancing age is just a byproduct of it. So perhaps others feel similarly and tend to focus less on the age factor. Most don’t have much first-hand experience of living on the poverty line regardless of age profile, but this doesn’t necessarily preclude them understanding these issues through a combination of logic, empathy and looking at some numbers. From my particular leaning Bernie Sanders, who’s a pretty old dude isn’t really saying anything different from an AOC, who’s a relatively baby age wise. To pick just one comparison With the possible exception of technological literacy, which amongst comparable Western nations the US’ legislatures seem particularly deficient in. That does definitely seem linked with Congress’ comparative decrepitude For Bernie's case, it often boils down to the problems of today are decades old situations that are absolutely festering now from a lack of tending to, and he's just keeping to the message he's been trying to get through the entire time. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland22452 Posts
On January 12 2024 07:10 Gahlo wrote: For Bernie's case, it often boils down to the problems of today are decades old situations that are absolutely festering now from a lack of tending to, and he's just keeping to the message he's been trying to get through the entire time. Aye that’s true, but his campaigns were still excellent in punching through that message to many younger folks, on platforms they’d frequent. So either he himself, or a sufficient amount of folks around him keeped him relatively plugged in. But yeah ultimately there are parallels with Corbyn in Britain, sure he had youth appeal but he was just advocating policies my grandfather, a long time lefty and Labour member had been in favour of all his adult life | ||
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Vivax
21676 Posts
On January 12 2024 07:03 WombaT wrote: To a degree, although I think the whole class disconnect way outweighs the generational aspect, or the general corruption of money and lobbying. Or that complacent incumbency is the actual problem and advancing age is just a byproduct of it. So perhaps others feel similarly and tend to focus less on the age factor. Most don’t have much first-hand experience of living on the poverty line regardless of age profile, but this doesn’t necessarily preclude them understanding these issues through a combination of logic, empathy and looking at some numbers. From my particular leaning Bernie Sanders, who’s a pretty old dude isn’t really saying anything different from an AOC, who’s a relatively baby age wise. To pick just one comparison With the possible exception of technological literacy, which amongst comparable Western nations the US’ legislatures seem particularly deficient in. That does definitely seem linked with Congress’ comparative decrepitude Understanding these issues through the things you mentioned might help to give some perspective of what needs fixing but as long as you don't live through them you'll never get the urgency while you observe how others start repeating your own mistakes. It's quite hard to empathize with a metaphorical punch to the face as a crude analogy, makes you want to prevent that from occurring to others especially when it occurs en masse and spirals into chaos where they run off into extremism. Probably drifted off a bit but in the case of the US, how can you expect a nation of many militant grampsies to vote young people who go against their interests? | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Kyadytim
United States886 Posts
On January 17 2024 11:38 JimmiC wrote: Conservatives saying or doing things that are legally questionable and/or unacceptable to the general public and claiming AI fakes when recordings of some sort emerged was an incredibly predictable consequence of AI.Law enforcement including the FBI are investigating audio of Roger Stone talking about assassinating key democrats. Stone says it’s AI, which is plausible now a days, but if it turns out to be legitimate he is going to have some massive legal problems. I would like to say the Republicans would have problems too, but I’m not sure their voters disapprove. https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/16/politics/roger-stone-investigation-democrats/index.html | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland22452 Posts
On January 17 2024 15:15 Kyadytim wrote: Conservatives saying or doing things that are legally questionable and/or unacceptable to the general public and claiming AI fakes when recordings of some sort emerged was an incredibly predictable consequence of AI. I mean to be fair this is a legitimate worry given how far the tech has come along in doing pretty damn convincing mimicry In this case it may be total BS but in the seeming absence of any appetite to vaguely come together and have some kind of industry standard regulatory framework I can fast see this becoming a very insidious problem | ||
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Zambrah
United States6890 Posts
The Biden administration unveiled a new rule Wednesday aimed at slashing bank overdraft fees to as low as $3, a move the president said would help end abusive practices by financial institutions. Under the proposal, banks could continue to charge fees when a customer’s account falls below zero, but either at a price in line with the bank’s actual costs to administer the overdraft or at an established benchmark created by the new rule. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) proposed potential fees of $3, $6, $7 or $14 and is seeking feedback from banks and the public on what would be appropriate. Current overdraft fees often push $30 or more, taking a significant bite out of low-income accounts. If this actually happens it'd be pretty cool. Kind of worried its a half-assed thing hes doing for re-election, but if theres any intentionally behind this then Id be quite pleased with it. Also would be nice if it was around the $3-4 range, that'd be quite the actual little boost/treat for people who are fucked over by overdraft fees from their shitty bank. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On January 18 2024 08:06 Zambrah wrote: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/biden-moves-to-slash-bank-overdraft-fees_n_65a7d88de4b00bbb446d72f6 If this actually happens it'd be pretty cool. Kind of worried its a half-assed thing hes doing for re-election, but if theres any intentionally behind this then Id be quite pleased with it. Also would be nice if it was around the $3-4 range, that'd be quite the actual little boost/treat for people who are fucked over by overdraft fees from their shitty bank. The best thing to do would be to go a step further and make it an opt in feature instead of an opt out feature. Overdraft protection is a feature no one needs that banks charge excessive money for to make profit. If you don't have money for something kill the transaction. | ||
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riotjune
United States3389 Posts
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Branch.AUT
Austria853 Posts
On January 18 2024 13:09 riotjune wrote: Yea, technically you don't even have to pay overdraft fees if you call your bank and make it very clear to them that you want to opt out of overdraft fees, then banks can't force you to pay them after you've "notified them" as required by law. So even if Biden knocks down the overdraft fee from $50 to $3, people can still pay $0 if they knew this one "trick." That sounds like sovereign citizens level of make believe. What are you opting out of next? Paying interest on your debt? | ||
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riotjune
United States3389 Posts
On January 18 2024 15:57 Branch.AUT wrote: That sounds like sovereign citizens level of make believe. What are you opting out of next? Paying interest on your debt? Well going by your strawman, you don't have to pay interest if you don't have any debt to begin with. The transaction just doesn't go through if you don't have enough funds to cover it, which is what most people prefer anyway and should be the default when one signs up for a bank account, and not the other way around. Then again I don't know how things work in your country. There's literally a bank ceo who named his yacht the "Overdraft," probably because he's so proud how lucrative and exploitative the practice really is. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21109 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11156 Posts
On January 19 2024 00:35 Gorsameth wrote: aside from the notion that a negative balance should be an opt in, rather then the default, the notion of overdraft fees itself is absolutely bonkers. Paying interest if your in the red, sure it is a loan after all, and this interest is generally a fair bit higher then an actual loan from the bank would be, but there is absolutely no need for an additional charge per transaction other then 'because they can'. Exactly. And the best proof that it doesn't need to be that way is that it isn't that way. That is, in a lot of countries which are not the US. I don't know if any countries except the US have overdraft fees, but Germany doesn't. Which is a very good thing, and banks seem to survive just fine without preying on the poorest citizens. | ||
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