WCG USA South Regional LAN - Page 4
Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments |
Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
| ||
IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On August 04 2008 03:22 Xeris wrote: Ok that's pretty easy. Louder "cheated" in the Pacific regional. Louder played the South regional legitimately without "cheating" and got 2nd. He's going to replace Crazy-X17 in the SOUTH regional, not the Pacific. Your argument would be valid if he was taking someone in Pacific's spot, but it's in the South regional. Also for the beginning of your post, when did anyone from my team break rules in Yankee? Or WGTCL? Or any other league that I am responsible for upholding the rules of? Never happened... and if it did, they would get the same treatment. so its ok that he cheated because he did it in a different part of the same fucking tournament? i dont see how you can be so obsessed with having the 4th best american team that you'll go to the ends of the earth to blindly defend a piece of like him just cuz he happens to wear your tag. so you're only strict about rules in clan leagues? you're saying your a stickler for rules and yet you're arguing that its ok that your player broke the rules. if you werent a hypocrite hed be kicked off your team. | ||
Louder
United States2276 Posts
| ||
Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
I'm not strict about rules in just clan leagues, if someone from my team is blatantly cheating / disregarding rules / hacking, or doing anything else deplorable, then yes I will take action against them. In this case, an admin gave him a W.O, you can talk about the situation and the story or whatever all you want, but fact remains: admin was the one who awarded a W.O, so how can that be cheating? The only way it could be cheating is if Louder was an admin and awarded himself a W.O or something. | ||
IdrA
United States11541 Posts
| ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
| ||
Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
| ||
EGLzGaMeR
United States1867 Posts
On August 04 2008 10:40 ret wrote: the anger in that post almost makes me think that's artosis on idra's tl.net account! i thought it was a glorious post only capable by the great idra~ | ||
DeadVessel
United States6269 Posts
| ||
Louder
United States2276 Posts
On August 04 2008 10:34 IdrA wrote: the admin was some random they hired to run the prelim for them, he had no knowledge of the system, no knowledge of how to run a tournament, no knowledge of basic english. the rules quite clearly state that walkover time is 15 minutes. you went and ed to the admin because you're a bad player desperate to qualify for wcg anyway possible and the admin happened to be dumb enough to let you get away with it. no one in their right mind thinks that puts you in the right, and the fact that you're trying to defend yourself with it is rather pitiful. once again, you abused the incompetence of the system and got away with it, you get a chance to go to an offline and get your raped by lz and nony. congratulations. stop ing acting like you deserve it because you're a horrible player and you arent fooling anyone. Command of the facts clearly isn't your strong suit. Stick to gaming, you're significantly better at it. | ||
IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On August 04 2008 12:38 Louder wrote: 3. After game 2, G5 says "brb 3 minutesi go smoke" - I say no, let's play, we need to finish I'm not at home. He says OK, makes game, THEN goes afk. For at least 6-7 minutes. I sat in the game for 3 (I timed it on a watch). I went back into channel and it was almost another 5 minutes before he came back. So after all that, I spoke to the admin - I had screenshots of G5 bm'ing me, the admin watched the rep where G5 refused to leave and made me kill all his buildings, and then the matter of me not agreeing to G5 taking a break - all this made the admin agree with me and give me the win. Not that it matters, because the way Dino played he would beat either of us. But G5 got what he deserved. what did i get wrong? you waited for him 8 minutes, by your account, then whined to the admin and he gave you a w/o. btw, there is nothing in wcg rules that states players must be civil and, in case you were unaware, the goal of the game is to eliminate your opponents buildings. you're bad at forming coherent arguments, better stick to cheating your way into broodwar tournaments. | ||
iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
| ||
Louder
United States2276 Posts
On August 04 2008 12:48 IdrA wrote: what did i get wrong? you waited for him 8 minutes, by your account, then whined to the admin and he gave you a w/o. btw, there is nothing in wcg rules that states players must be civil and, in case you were unaware, the goal of the game is to eliminate your opponents buildings. you're bad at forming coherent arguments, better stick to cheating your way into broodwar tournaments. So, someone you don't like - everything they say is "whining"? I'm aware of your position that behavior is irrelevant and all that matters is winning games, but then that's an attitude that benefits only the players who are incapable of being anything but an asshole. Any other sport has standards of behavior. Winning is the objective but being an insufferable jackass is generally frowned upon and often not tolerated all, and results in sanction. If the WCG rules did not explicitly disallow hacking, would you assume it was acceptable to use a hack in WCG? WCG rules don't explicitly say you can't walk over to your opponent at the LAN during a game and punch him the head, so that must be OK too. Reasonable people can accept that some standards are implied - one of which being socially acceptable behavior, an implied standard in nearly any context outside of this forum. | ||
sMi.SyMPhOnY
United States226 Posts
btw incontrol i need your view on my issue. its in the wcg(md) thread | ||
IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On August 04 2008 13:40 Louder wrote: So, someone you don't like - everything they say is "whining"? I'm aware of your position that behavior is irrelevant and all that matters is winning games, but then that's an attitude that benefits only the players who are incapable of being anything but an asshole. Any other sport has standards of behavior. Winning is the objective but being an insufferable jackass is generally frowned upon and often not tolerated all, and results in sanction. If the WCG rules did not explicitly disallow hacking, would you assume it was acceptable to use a hack in WCG? WCG rules don't explicitly say you can't walk over to your opponent at the LAN during a game and punch him the head, so that must be OK too. Reasonable people can accept that some standards are implied - one of which being socially acceptable behavior, an implied standard in nearly any context outside of this forum. since no one ever trash talks during professional sports right? moreover ss' of bm should never be used to punish one player because for all we know you were being an 'insufferable jackass' yourself and only ss'd his provoked replies. | ||
Louder
United States2276 Posts
Shouldn't you be scrubbing the Korean's toilets right now? | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32251 Posts
On August 04 2008 14:36 Louder wrote: In professional tennis if a player simply walks off the court to have a smoke and is gone nearly 10 minutes, they will come back to a forfeited match. I'd also just throw out a guess that if a basketball team walked off the court during a game after using up their time outs, they would also get a forfeit. Shouldn't you be scrubbing the Korean's toilets right now? .... | ||
iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On August 04 2008 13:40 Louder wrote: So, someone you don't like - everything they say is "whining"? I'm aware of your position that behavior is irrelevant and all that matters is winning games, but then that's an attitude that benefits only the players who are incapable of being anything but an asshole. Any other sport has standards of behavior. Winning is the objective but being an insufferable jackass is generally frowned upon and often not tolerated all, and results in sanction. If the WCG rules did not explicitly disallow hacking, would you assume it was acceptable to use a hack in WCG? WCG rules don't explicitly say you can't walk over to your opponent at the LAN during a game and punch him the head, so that must be OK too. Reasonable people can accept that some standards are implied - one of which being socially acceptable behavior, an implied standard in nearly any context outside of this forum. But the rules DO say you cannothack or use certain bugs.. so WHAT are you arguing? "What IF I didn't take a w/o and actually played the game the tourney is for." | ||
IdrA
United States11541 Posts
upon being informed that the wcg rules do indeed state that you have to wait 15 minutes, and he was only gone 8 max, you state that he was being bad mannered and that should not be tolerated. then, after again being informed that you are an idiot, you realize that 'bm' is tolerated in legit sports, so you then go back to the walkover time... which we already established you were wrong about. what the fuck is wrong with you. and id much rather be cleaning korean toilets than sitting at home cheating my way into broodwar tournaments and raising a bunch of little brats who are gonna turn out as fucked up as their piece of shit father. | ||
EGMachine
United States1641 Posts
| ||
| ||