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Look at what all these great and wonderful people who care so much about you are saying about where the world *is* going, without your say or the say of 99.99999% of people.
No planning involved here. No schemes involved here. Only the normal cooperation of megacorporations and influential politicians from around the world. Yep, no scheming or conspiring went into setting up this plan of moving from nations into a global technocracy. Nothing weird going on in the world right now. No conspiracies.
People gonna read what they telling us to our faces, *again*, and somehow conclude they are saying something other than what they are directly saying and have been saying for years.
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On June 03 2020 23:15 travis wrote:https://mailchi.mp/7bd6cf9f1407/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2021-the-great-reset?e=9b489ed9a2Look at what all these great and wonderful people who care so much about you are saying about where the world *is* going, without your say or the say of 99.99999% of people. No planning involved here. No schemes involved here. Only the normal cooperation of megacorporations and influential politicians from around the world. Yep, no scheming or conspiring went into setting up this plan of moving from nations into a global technocracy. Nothing weird going on in the world right now. No conspiracies. People gonna read what they telling us to our faces, *again*, and somehow conclude they are saying something other than what they are directly saying and have been saying for years.
Thanks for opening our eyes to their grand plan of moving from nations into a global technocracy.
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On June 03 2020 20:23 Artisreal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 19:59 pmh wrote: Its not about wanting to help or not,at least not for me. Its about understanding what is happening in the greater sceme of things. Green horizons is heavily polarizing. It is understandable from an ideological point of vieuw but looking at it from a pragmatic point of vieuw the conclusion has to be that it doesnt help either,at least not in the short run. On the contrary,such an extreme position pushes people in the centre towards the other end. I honestly whish that it didnt but the reality is that it does.Which is why the whole situation is so sad. Personally i would be all in favor of a sanders style revolution,but the reality is that if it doesnt succeed you will end up on the exact other end of the spectrum. Right now i dont see how it can work but maybe it can work in the long run. A heavily polarized society in the months before the election is trumps dream,its the only way he can hope to win with the current economic situation.
But i have to agree,a centrist position does not make the situation better either even though at least it wouldnt make it worse in the short run. Maybe its already to late and things have to get worse first before things can become better. In that way the polarization helps the protesters as well,but only in the long run and only after it first has gotten worse. In the end maybe thats the only way to achieve real change,but it will take a long time.
The status quo is utterly polarizing. Let's add dangerous and atagonizing for POCs to that. Have you ever lived in a country where you were unsure to get about unscathed if you went for something quotidian as a SIMPLE JOG? How did that feel? Damn.
Anybody can be killed or harmed at anytime. Just because the statistical liklihood is low doesnt mean it cant happen.
Newsflash people get murdered everyday and many of them probably felt safe until it happened.
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On June 03 2020 23:22 Sbrubbles wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 23:15 travis wrote:https://mailchi.mp/7bd6cf9f1407/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2021-the-great-reset?e=9b489ed9a2Look at what all these great and wonderful people who care so much about you are saying about where the world *is* going, without your say or the say of 99.99999% of people. No planning involved here. No schemes involved here. Only the normal cooperation of megacorporations and influential politicians from around the world. Yep, no scheming or conspiring went into setting up this plan of moving from nations into a global technocracy. Nothing weird going on in the world right now. No conspiracies. People gonna read what they telling us to our faces, *again*, and somehow conclude they are saying something other than what they are directly saying and have been saying for years. Thanks for opening our eyes to their grand plan of moving from nations into a global technocracy.
I don't know if you are being sarcastic, everyone always is. Always sarcastic, always mocking. I just want people to actually read this stuff and research it themselves. The world economic forum isn't "make believe" or something. This is a real group of extremely wealthy and powerful people who are regularly meeting and coming up with ways to unite all governments under *them*. And they tell us. And then people laugh when I show them it and call me an idiot.
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On June 03 2020 23:25 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 23:22 Sbrubbles wrote:On June 03 2020 23:15 travis wrote:https://mailchi.mp/7bd6cf9f1407/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2021-the-great-reset?e=9b489ed9a2Look at what all these great and wonderful people who care so much about you are saying about where the world *is* going, without your say or the say of 99.99999% of people. No planning involved here. No schemes involved here. Only the normal cooperation of megacorporations and influential politicians from around the world. Yep, no scheming or conspiring went into setting up this plan of moving from nations into a global technocracy. Nothing weird going on in the world right now. No conspiracies. People gonna read what they telling us to our faces, *again*, and somehow conclude they are saying something other than what they are directly saying and have been saying for years. Thanks for opening our eyes to their grand plan of moving from nations into a global technocracy. I don't know if you are being sarcastic, everyone always is. Always sarcastic, always mocking. I just want people to actually read this stuff and research it themselves. The world economic forum isn't "make believe" or something. This is a real group of extremely wealthy and powerful people who are regularly meeting and coming up with ways to unite all governments under *them*. And they tell us. And then people laugh when I show them it and call me an idiot.
It's called capitalism. It's literally in the definition.
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit
There are less dramatic ways to be an anti-capitalist.
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Travis, you're scared of what exactly? What specific change are you afraid of? And do you realise that as long as you've been alive this sort of thing you're pointing out has always been the case?
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On June 03 2020 23:33 Uldridge wrote: Travis, you're scared of what exactly? What specific change are you afraid of? And do you realise that as long as you've been alive this sort of thing you're pointing out has always been the case?
I know you're asking him, but with these megalomaniacs I keep wondering if they haven't forgotten what just encompasses being human.
The endless strive for more when you already could retire, these guys are just driven by endless fucking greed. Live and let live, instead we get more regulations, more surveillance, streamlining and technologies shoved down our throat but we're still just smarter animals that can be happy from simple things. Not from being digitalized, exploited, streamlined into drones by guys with a bottomless pit of greed for a brain.
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What are you reading in there that is sinister? We really do need better global cooperation to battle climate change and pandemics. I never get people who get upset at conventions like this. I mean I doubt it will result in anything meaningful and it's mostly virtue signaling for influential people. But it's just a convention for a certain specialized group to share ideas and do networking, like every other type of specialized job has conventions too.
“This global pandemic has also demonstrated again how interconnected we are. We have to restore a functioning system of smart global cooperation structured to address the challenges of the next 50 years. The Great Reset will require us to integrate all stakeholders of global society into a community of common interest, purpose and action,” said Schwab. “We need a change of mindset, moving from short-term to long-term thinking, moving from shareholder capitalism to stakeholder responsibility. Environmental, social and good governance have to be a measured part of corporate and governmental accountability,” he added. This innovative summit will be a very different Annual Meeting, reflecting the spirit of the Great Reset. It will provide a unique opportunity at the beginning of 2021 to bring together the key global government and business leaders in Davos, yet framed within a global multistakeholder summit driven by the younger generation to ensure that the Great Reset dialogue pushes beyond the boundaries of traditional thinking and is truly forward-oriented. To do so, the World Economic Forum will draw on thousands of young people in more than 400 cities around the world (the Global Shapers Community) who will be interconnected with a powerful virtual hub network to interact with the leaders in Davos. Each of those hubs will have an open house policy to integrate all interested citizens into this dialogue, making the Annual Meeting open to everyone. In addition, global media and social media networks will mobilize millions of people, enabling them to share their input while also providing them with access to the Annual Meeting discussions in Davos.
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On June 03 2020 22:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 21:29 thePunGun wrote:On June 03 2020 21:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 03 2020 20:49 MWY wrote:On June 03 2020 18:02 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 03 2020 17:55 Simberto wrote:On June 03 2020 17:28 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 03 2020 17:08 Uldridge wrote: If puppykiller hasn't understood it yet: it's not about getting (white) allies on the (white) allies' terms. You get to talk from a perspective of comfort, many PoE don't. I think South Park did a nice job in that one episode when Stan finally had to admit to Token that he didn't get it.
@GH: many people want to help but can't/won't leave their comfort zone because why would they, people are beings that don't just abandon those kind of positions (we're all selfish that way). How can those people help? That is to say, can they even do anything you consider as helping, in your opinion? Not kidding about white history week. I'd suggest people learn how centrists and social democrats were key to Hitler's rise to power. Then think about whether they want to get out of their comfort zone now or or later, unless they are comfortable being complicit. See sig. Trump's not Hitler and the US isn't Germany, but the clear path to fascism is in front of us (I say as watching a man pepper sprayed in his home for shouting at officers). What exactly are you referring to with "social democrats being key to Hitler's rise to power"? Because that does not fit anything i know about German history. In fact, the second he could, Hitler outlawed the SPD and imprisoned and/or killed as many of them as he could. Social democrats were the only party present who voted against the enabling act giving Hitler dictatorial power in '33, despite being surrounded by SA people. Long story short, while SPD and centrists were playing nice with the nazis banking on process and institutions, communists and antifa's early manifestations were outlawed and suppressed. When the economy collapsed and no one was able to offer adequate relief Hitler capitalized and his brownshirts suppressed the remaining resistance in the street. Hitler's appointed chancellor. Calls to dissolve the Reichstag, there's the famous fire. Hitler blames communists and has them all rounded up and many executed. With SPD being the farthest left party still legal/viable they failed to stop the Enabling Act giving Hitler legitimacy and then he has them arrested, banished, killed, etc anyway. A lot of that happened in the span of about 3 months btw EDIT: I feel like SPD KPD drama is both out of my depth and a bit in the weeds here. EDIT2: Honest question: Do people not know the "first they came for" quote starts with communists over there too? In the long UK version Jewish people are 4th/penultimate! A lot of socialdemocrats died trying to fight Hitler and intentionally put their lifes on the line to stop him/fight him. This is really insulting to all those people and terribly wrong and just speaks to how you either not know or bend history to fit your political agenda. It's almost trump-esque to say that they were the key to hitler's power because they died trying to prevent him but didn't succeed. Sorry to burst your bubble but I was also taught that s ocial democrats did help Hitler gain power. The way we were taught it happened was due to social democrats not wanting antifacist to gain more power since antifa was considered communist, and the Nazi party (who claimed they were socialist) along with socialist democrats both took part in having antifa lose power. Now I’m not saying socialist democrats didn’t try to stop it, but they did help solidify Nazis to gain more power over antifa. Well, if you're making false and inaccurate statements, you'll have to at least point to the source, which came up with this nonsense. Unless of course you've just pulled it out of your ass, because it sure as F smells like that. How about you teach me instead of talking out of your ass too? I said this was how it was taught to me, when? Idk it was like more than 15 years ago. Nothing online is going to prove my point, but there’s a few articles that state the SPD did nothing for a couple years, which led to the rise of Nazis... https://www.facinghistory.org/weimar-republic-fragility-democracy/readings/choices-and-consequencesShow nested quote + Unwilling to confront the challenge of dealing with the great depression the Social Democrats stayed out of the government. Their decision allowed the erosion of legislative government to take place in the period from 1930-1932 seriously weakening the Weimar Republic and contributing to its failure.
Am I wrong? Sure, but I was just stating that I learned that SPD also didn’t like communists, which aligned with early Nazi propaganda- against communist. Edit: I may also be mixing things up, but either way, if I’m wrong please just show me why I’m wrong it’s better than just telling me I’m wrong, I like learning. As I mentioned I’m just stating how I was taught in school, maybe this is why we have a fuck ton of Americans who think socialism is bad? Sorry if my previous post came across too harsh. But as you may know, SPD party members, loyalists and left wing journalists were the first group, that was sent to the concetration camp of Dachau. Where they were beaten daily and worked to death. One of them was my great grandfather and the rest of my family on my mother's side had to flee from Freiburg to Switzerland to be safe. (So you might understand my first irritated/ ill-tempered response) Also: Here's a pretty good article on how the Nazis came to power by "Der Spiegel". It decribes pretty much everything in great detail from 1926 to Marrch 1933
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On June 03 2020 23:24 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 20:23 Artisreal wrote:On June 03 2020 19:59 pmh wrote: Its not about wanting to help or not,at least not for me. Its about understanding what is happening in the greater sceme of things. Green horizons is heavily polarizing. It is understandable from an ideological point of vieuw but looking at it from a pragmatic point of vieuw the conclusion has to be that it doesnt help either,at least not in the short run. On the contrary,such an extreme position pushes people in the centre towards the other end. I honestly whish that it didnt but the reality is that it does.Which is why the whole situation is so sad. Personally i would be all in favor of a sanders style revolution,but the reality is that if it doesnt succeed you will end up on the exact other end of the spectrum. Right now i dont see how it can work but maybe it can work in the long run. A heavily polarized society in the months before the election is trumps dream,its the only way he can hope to win with the current economic situation.
But i have to agree,a centrist position does not make the situation better either even though at least it wouldnt make it worse in the short run. Maybe its already to late and things have to get worse first before things can become better. In that way the polarization helps the protesters as well,but only in the long run and only after it first has gotten worse. In the end maybe thats the only way to achieve real change,but it will take a long time.
The status quo is utterly polarizing. Let's add dangerous and atagonizing for POCs to that. Have you ever lived in a country where you were unsure to get about unscathed if you went for something quotidian as a SIMPLE JOG? How did that feel? Damn. Anybody can be killed or harmed at anytime. Just because the statistical liklihood is low doesnt mean it cant happen. Newsflash people get murdered everyday and many of them probably felt safe until it happened. If I remember your posting history correctly this statement lacking any subtlety fits in just perfectly.
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On June 03 2020 23:40 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:What are you reading in there that is sinister? We really do need better global cooperation to battle climate change and pandemics. I never get people who get upset at conventions like this. I mean I doubt it will result in anything meaningful and it's mostly virtue signaling for influential people. But it's just a convention for a certain specialized group to share ideas and do networking, like every other type of specialized job has conventions too. Show nested quote +“This global pandemic has also demonstrated again how interconnected we are. We have to restore a functioning system of smart global cooperation structured to address the challenges of the next 50 years. The Great Reset will require us to integrate all stakeholders of global society into a community of common interest, purpose and action,” said Schwab. “We need a change of mindset, moving from short-term to long-term thinking, moving from shareholder capitalism to stakeholder responsibility. Environmental, social and good governance have to be a measured part of corporate and governmental accountability,” he added. This innovative summit will be a very different Annual Meeting, reflecting the spirit of the Great Reset. It will provide a unique opportunity at the beginning of 2021 to bring together the key global government and business leaders in Davos, yet framed within a global multistakeholder summit driven by the younger generation to ensure that the Great Reset dialogue pushes beyond the boundaries of traditional thinking and is truly forward-oriented. To do so, the World Economic Forum will draw on thousands of young people in more than 400 cities around the world (the Global Shapers Community) who will be interconnected with a powerful virtual hub network to interact with the leaders in Davos. Each of those hubs will have an open house policy to integrate all interested citizens into this dialogue, making the Annual Meeting open to everyone. In addition, global media and social media networks will mobilize millions of people, enabling them to share their input while also providing them with access to the Annual Meeting discussions in Davos. It’s not what they say here specifically. travis is coming from a whole ecosystem with this stuff. Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, New World Order, etc. Frame it with that, and stuff like “integrate all stakeholders of global society into a community of common interest, purpose and action“ is a confession to him.
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"Global cooperation" isn't the plan you guys. Actually watch their presentations, read their publications, go through their website. Actually research and look into it.
They don't want global cooperation between nations. They want single global government, single identification, single digital currency. Everyone will have all their data tied to them, which will in turn be always connected to the 5G grid. No conspiracy actually, thats just their goal. They've outlined it over and over.
They are not going to give out press releases that sound sinister on the surface. Obviously. They aren't looking to upset the general public. The general public isn't even interested in reading this. It just sounds like political technical blah blah blah to them.
I should probably go again though, before I rile things up too much. Don't really enjoy being hated on, either. Can get rough.
I am pretty sure all of this is going to come out, in some form... eventually.
I think people need to start really researching the conspiracies they make fun of so much. I mean, actually go with an open mind and put a lot of effort into seeing if all the people you think are crazy, that you make fun of - really put the effort into seeing if those people are just crazy and imbalanced, or if maybe - just maybe - it's possible that a lot of people are closeminded about ideas where a lot of gaps have to be filled in because of missing information.
Now obviously I am not talking about seemingly ridiculous shit like flat earth. Don't use 1 bad conspiracy theory to offhand dismiss all the others. Hell, don't use 1000 bad conspiracy theories to offhand dismiss 1 of them.
Last thing, just curious if you guys been discussing the Gen Flynn stuff at all?
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I bought a copy of Behold a Pale Horse and tried to read it out of curiosity. Way too dense, though. Couldn’t get through much of it.
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On June 03 2020 23:57 travis wrote:"Global cooperation" isn't the plan you guys. Actually watch their presentations, read their publications, go through their website. Actually research and look into it. + Show Spoiler + They don't want global cooperation between nations. They want single global government, single identification, single digital currency. Everyone will have all their data tied to them, which will in turn be always connected to the 5G grid. No conspiracy actually, thats just their goal. They've outlined it over and over.
They are not going to give out press releases that sound sinister on the surface. Obviously. They aren't looking to rile up the general public. The general public isn't even interested in reading this. It just sounds like political technical blah blah blah to them.
I should probably go again though, before I rile things up too much. Don't really enjoy being hated on, either. Can get rough.
I am pretty sure all of this is going to come out, in some form... eventually.
I think people need to start really researching the conspiracies they make fun of so much. I mean, actually go with an open mind and put a lot of effort into seeing if all the people you think are crazy, that you make fun of - really put the effort into seeing if those people are just crazy and imbalanced, or if maybe - just maybe - it's possible that a lot of people are closeminded about ideas where a lot of gaps have to be filled in because of missing information.
Now obviously I am not talking about seemingly ridiculous shit like flat earth. Don't use 1 bad conspiracy theory to offhand dismiss all the others. Hell, don't use 1000 bad conspiracy theories to offhand dismiss 1 of them.
Last thing, just curious if you guys have even been talking about the Gen Flynn stuff at all?
You're making it out to be more than it is. Capitalists seek monopoly, it's that simple.
@pun all due respect, and perhaps a translation issue, but I couldn't help but notice this quote from your article
In fact, with its aging and corruptible politicians, the SPD made things easier for the Nazis in Berlin.The bigger challenge for the Nazis was the Communist Party of Germany (KPD) To relate it to my previous point, I've long argued aging and corruptible politicians in the Democratic party have made things easier for Trump and his allies. Pelosi giving Trump his spaceforce and a bunch of money for caging kids comes to mind.
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There was some brief talk about Flynn but there isn't much to say about it imo.
A morally bankrupt DoJ tries to drop a case against a friend of the President despite multiple confessions under oath. The judge in question isn't having any of it and as a response the Flynn team has made a bogus claim to the appellate court despite the law being entirely clear that the court has to agree to a dismissal.
Last I heard the appellate court asked Judge Sullivans for his opinion. Anything happen since then that is worth discussing?
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On June 04 2020 00:10 Gorsameth wrote: There was some brief talk about Flynn but there isn't much to say about it imo.
A morally bankrupt DoJ tries to drop a case against a friend of the President despite multiple confessions under oath. The judge in question isn't having any of it and as a response the Flynn team has made a bogus claim to the appellate court despite the law being entirely clear that the court has to agree to a dismissal.
Last I heard the appellate court asked Judge Sullivans for his opinion. Anything happen since then that is worth discussing?
That's an interesting take. Did you read the actual transcripts?
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On June 03 2020 23:57 travis wrote: I should probably go again though, before I rile things up too much. Don't really enjoy being hated on, either. Can get rough.
Your last post in this thread was posting conspiracy bullshit about Geogre Soros and then disappearing after people asked you for sources. If your contribution is going to be writing conspiracy theories and then disappearing just skip the first step.
On June 04 2020 00:13 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2020 00:10 Gorsameth wrote: There was some brief talk about Flynn but there isn't much to say about it imo.
A morally bankrupt DoJ tries to drop a case against a friend of the President despite multiple confessions under oath. The judge in question isn't having any of it and as a response the Flynn team has made a bogus claim to the appellate court despite the law being entirely clear that the court has to agree to a dismissal.
Last I heard the appellate court asked Judge Sullivans for his opinion. Anything happen since then that is worth discussing? That's an interesting take. Did you read the actual transcripts?
If you want to have a discussion you should probably provide your take on the situation instead of just calling other people wrong and asking them if they've read.
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On June 04 2020 00:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 23:57 travis wrote: I should probably go again though, before I rile things up too much. Don't really enjoy being hated on, either. Can get rough. Your last post in this thread was posting conspiracy bullshit about Geogre Soros and then disappearing after people asked you for sources. If your contribution is going to be writing conspiracy theories and then disappearing just skip the first step. Idk, who’s he hurting? I don’t mind hearing how conspiracy theorists feel once in a while. Why run him out of town?
IIRC TL has a standing policy forbidding conspiracy theories, but if they wanted to enforce it they might feel the need to dig into what he’s saying to determine it actually *is* a conspiracy theory. They’d probably get as far as I got into Behold a Pale Horse.
Edit: enforce, not force
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On June 03 2020 23:50 Artisreal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 23:24 Sadist wrote:On June 03 2020 20:23 Artisreal wrote:On June 03 2020 19:59 pmh wrote: Its not about wanting to help or not,at least not for me. Its about understanding what is happening in the greater sceme of things. Green horizons is heavily polarizing. It is understandable from an ideological point of vieuw but looking at it from a pragmatic point of vieuw the conclusion has to be that it doesnt help either,at least not in the short run. On the contrary,such an extreme position pushes people in the centre towards the other end. I honestly whish that it didnt but the reality is that it does.Which is why the whole situation is so sad. Personally i would be all in favor of a sanders style revolution,but the reality is that if it doesnt succeed you will end up on the exact other end of the spectrum. Right now i dont see how it can work but maybe it can work in the long run. A heavily polarized society in the months before the election is trumps dream,its the only way he can hope to win with the current economic situation.
But i have to agree,a centrist position does not make the situation better either even though at least it wouldnt make it worse in the short run. Maybe its already to late and things have to get worse first before things can become better. In that way the polarization helps the protesters as well,but only in the long run and only after it first has gotten worse. In the end maybe thats the only way to achieve real change,but it will take a long time.
The status quo is utterly polarizing. Let's add dangerous and atagonizing for POCs to that. Have you ever lived in a country where you were unsure to get about unscathed if you went for something quotidian as a SIMPLE JOG? How did that feel? Damn. Anybody can be killed or harmed at anytime. Just because the statistical liklihood is low doesnt mean it cant happen. Newsflash people get murdered everyday and many of them probably felt safe until it happened. If I remember your posting history correctly this statement lacking any subtlety fits in just perfectly.
Its true. 2 rednecks murdering a jogger doesnt automatically make it unsafe for people to go for a run. That could happen to anyone. That instance was likely racially motivated but the next time it could be a serial killer or something.
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On June 04 2020 00:20 ChristianS wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2020 00:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On June 03 2020 23:57 travis wrote: I should probably go again though, before I rile things up too much. Don't really enjoy being hated on, either. Can get rough. Your last post in this thread was posting conspiracy bullshit about Geogre Soros and then disappearing after people asked you for sources. If your contribution is going to be writing conspiracy theories and then disappearing just skip the first step. Idk, who’s he hurting? I don’t mind hearing how conspiracy theorists feel once in a while. Why run him out of town? IIRC TL has a standing policy forbidding conspiracy theories, but if they wanted to enforce it they might feel the need to dig into what he’s saying to determine it actually *is* a conspiracy theory. They’d probably get as far as I got into Behold a Pale Horse. Edit: enforce, not force
I haven't seen Nettles post recently, but I don't think he's banned. Do you believe he contributes to the thread by posting a conspiracy theory and then leaving without engaging in a discussion with anyone? I would argue no.
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