EPT[M][N] Medic Mafia - Page 7
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On March 06 2018 08:38 Damdred wrote: I suppose but what happens if we don't control them d1 and two overlap on a super towny person? Yeah, if you're coordinating a medic kill on any given night, I think all the medics have to use the same target. This not only renders the Mafia medic useless, but it also renders the Mafia roleblocker useless. They basically just have 3 vanilla bad guys. Coordinating things so that 2 medics kill a guy and one tries to prevent the mafia kill not only opens you up to disruption by the roleblocker, but I also don't see a way to get the medics on the same page (about which 2 are killing a guy and which 1 is trying to make a save) without telling the Mafia who they are. So you can't do anything but "all 3 on the same target" unless you execute a mass claim. Having never played under this set of rules (or one like it) I don't know if the mass claim is good or bad. I'll have to read the pre-game discussion again. One thing I DO remember from pre-game discussion is the idea that this ruleset favors us pretty heavily, and that the Mafia will have to play extremely well to win. Is there a "far and away" best Scum player that we can lynch, to make sure that won't happen? :D | ||
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Damdred
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On March 06 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote: I will always be healing my biggest scum read and I shall make it known. Good man, I know it won't be me (but it was) | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On March 06 2018 08:51 n00bKing wrote: Yeah, if you're coordinating a medic kill on any given night, I think all the medics have to use the same target. This not only renders the Mafia medic useless, but it also renders the Mafia roleblocker useless. They basically just have 3 vanilla bad guys. Coordinating things so that 2 medics kill a guy and one tries to prevent the mafia kill not only opens you up to disruption by the roleblocker, but I also don't see a way to get the medics on the same page (about which 2 are killing a guy and which 1 is trying to make a save) without telling the Mafia who they are. So you can't do anything but "all 3 on the same target" unless you execute a mass claim. Having never played under this set of rules (or one like it) I don't know if the mass claim is good or bad. I'll have to read the pre-game discussion again. One thing I DO remember from pre-game discussion is the idea that this ruleset favors us pretty heavily, and that the Mafia will have to play extremely well to win. Is there a "far and away" best Scum player that we can lynch, to make sure that won't happen? :D Holyflare | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
Hmm, okay. If he were Scum and decided that the mass claim favors the Mafia, would he be bold enough to immediately fake-claim Medic, and try to force the Town into a disadvantageous mass claim? Or would that be "too obvious" of a scum play? | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On March 06 2018 08:59 n00bKing wrote: Hmm, okay. If he were Scum and decided that the mass claim favors the Mafia, would he be bold enough to immediately fake-claim Medic, and try to force the Town into a disadvantageous mass claim? Or would that be "too obvious" of a scum play? Honestly hf claiming a role doesn't mean anything he fakes as town or mafia | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
I like the idea of the coordinating medic shot via vote. A lot more information. I am not sure about the mass claiming bit D2 though. I think it would be better for town to have the medics be unknown for a couple cycles before they claim. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On March 06 2018 09:11 Fecalfeast wrote: Honestly hf claiming a role doesn't mean anything he fakes as town or mafia agreed, I think he would claim just as easily as town medic as he would mafia. | ||
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Damdred
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On March 06 2018 09:56 Damdred wrote: Do you have any opinions on anyone yet Tubesock? Do you have thoughts? You seem like you have thoughts | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On March 06 2018 09:15 Tubesock wrote: I am not sure about the mass claiming bit D2 though. I think it would be better for town to have the medics be unknown for a couple cycles before they claim. Well let's not allow ourselves to become distracted by discussion that doesn't need to take place yet. We don't need to decide whether to mass claim on Day 2 until it's Day 2. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
 D1 has been pretty boring so far | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On March 06 2018 09:16 Tubesock wrote: agreed, I think he would claim just as easily as town medic as he would mafia. What are you "agreeing" with? Because what Fecalfeast said and what you said are NOT the same. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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MoosyDoosy
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On March 06 2018 09:56 Damdred wrote: Do you have any opinions on anyone yet Tubesock? Nothing yet, but your idea about medic coordination I think is pro town so you can be in the townpile. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On March 06 2018 11:10 MoosyDoosy wrote: I miss the presence of a rayn-like person plugging me in the butthole and telling me i suck at this game I can start telling you that you suck at this game, if that'll help. You'll have to go somewhere else for the rest of that, though. On March 06 2018 11:08 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm pretty sure Fecal was exaggerating by his D2 mass claim. Mass claiming is going to happen but I don't see it happening on D2 unless the game is really easy and we nail mafia really early I dunno, the pre-game discussion sounds to me like people are talking about mass claiming early game and not late game. And now I can't ask them to clarify what they meant, because they either aren't in the game or I can no longer trust them to tell me the truth about it. But speaking of the pre-game discussion, now that I've read through it again, it occurs to me that I don't even know for sure what the setup for the game IS. We had this: On February 19 2018 23:28 Calix wrote: I'm leaning towards giving mafia another role since people seem to agree that makes the game easier for mafia. and then this: On February 19 2018 23:45 Calix wrote: Two Roleblockers might be fine then. I'll see what other people think and if nobody has a serious problem with it then I'll change the Mafioso to a PR. and then that was it. So was the setup changed? Am I allowed to ask the Narrator to tell us whether the setup changed? Because if the setup isn't as town-favored as it was initially, that will definitely change my strategy. | ||
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