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On April 29 2017 04:36 cLutZ wrote:
We have to evaluate the Trubisky trade today, because Tom Brady can turn into Tom Brady, and no sane person could have predicted that and picked him #1 overall. So who are Trubisky's comparables? I actually haven't seen much of him, so I'm actually asking. For example, this was my thoughts (approximately) of a QB heading into last year's draft:
Jared Goff
Upside: Matt Ryan; Likelihood: 5-10%
Mid-Range: Andy Dalton; 10-20%
Low: McCown; 40-60%
Rest: Unusable; 10-45%
I'm surprised at how bad Goff was. He looked like a typical fourth round QB, not a second overall pick QB that someone trades up to get.
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On April 29 2017 04:49 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2017 04:36 cLutZ wrote:
We have to evaluate the Trubisky trade today, because Tom Brady can turn into Tom Brady, and no sane person could have predicted that and picked him #1 overall. So who are Trubisky's comparables? I actually haven't seen much of him, so I'm actually asking. For example, this was my thoughts (approximately) of a QB heading into last year's draft:
Jared Goff
Upside: Matt Ryan; Likelihood: 5-10%
Mid-Range: Andy Dalton; 10-20%
Low: McCown; 40-60%
Rest: Unusable; 10-45% I'm surprised at how bad Goff was. He looked like a typical fourth round QB, not a second overall pick QB that someone trades up to get.
It shouldn't be too surprising. The people "praising" him (if you could call it that) said he COULD BE Matt Ryan. If that is your upside it means you aren't all that athletic. If you don't have excellent field vision (which Matt Ryan has had since his rookie year), which is both hard to predict and rare, that means you are a crappy QB. The Goff pre-draft said, "has to be a top 5 smartest and hardest working QB to be a decent starter."
Here is the best thing I've seen vis-a-vis Trubiski talking about comps:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2706180-nfl-draft-2017-round-1-grades-for-every-pick
He’s an athletic playmaker with limited experience like Newton or Tannehill, two quarterbacks who neatly define the range of possibilities for Trubisky.
This comes just after comparing him to Geno Smith. So Tanier says:
Mitchell Trubiski
Upside: Cam Newton
Mid-Range: Ryan Tannehill
Low: Geno Smith
That is not particularly exciting.
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The scuttlebutt that I'm seeing is that the GMs for the Bears and the Texans did those trades to get QBs yesterday without the blessings of the head coaches.
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On April 29 2017 05:24 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2017 04:49 xDaunt wrote:On April 29 2017 04:36 cLutZ wrote:
We have to evaluate the Trubisky trade today, because Tom Brady can turn into Tom Brady, and no sane person could have predicted that and picked him #1 overall. So who are Trubisky's comparables? I actually haven't seen much of him, so I'm actually asking. For example, this was my thoughts (approximately) of a QB heading into last year's draft:
Jared Goff
Upside: Matt Ryan; Likelihood: 5-10%
Mid-Range: Andy Dalton; 10-20%
Low: McCown; 40-60%
Rest: Unusable; 10-45% I'm surprised at how bad Goff was. He looked like a typical fourth round QB, not a second overall pick QB that someone trades up to get. It shouldn't be too surprising. The people "praising" him (if you could call it that) said he COULD BE Matt Ryan. If that is your upside it means you aren't all that athletic. If you don't have excellent field vision (which Matt Ryan has had since his rookie year), which is both hard to predict and rare, that means you are a crappy QB. The Goff pre-draft said, "has to be a top 5 smartest and hardest working QB to be a decent starter."
Goff spent most of the season with Jeff Fisher, who is infamous for ultra conservative offensive playcalling. Field vision doesn't count for much if your coach forbids you from looking downfield. He may benefit from more playing time, if the Rams haven't totally destroyed him already.
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On April 29 2017 07:11 xDaunt wrote:
The scuttlebutt that I'm seeing is that the GMs for the Bears and the Texans did those trades to get QBs yesterday without the blessings of the head coaches.
Seems to be a common theme in dysfunctional franchises
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Lots of trades, but no QBs.
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Eagles are the ones to finally pull the injury risk trigger
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They may be a bunch of pricks, but Philadelphia sports fans are really damned great.
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damn thought the rams were going to pick juju smith for the ticket sales
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such a bengals pick with mixon hahahaha
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Joe Mixon on the bengals? Seems about right
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There are way too many commercials on the NFL network feed.
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Browns finally pulled the trigger. Redskins just drafting the Alabama defense
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Damn they found the one good highlight Cunningham had against us this year. I wasn't pretty proud of how well we neutralized him.
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this guy is about to get stabbed if he keeps going
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Hahaha, this booing of the Cowboys is great.
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Feels like a lackluster draft imo. Not many big names coming out this year. I feel like we were spoiled the last couple of drafts though. Hopefully next year makes up for it.
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On April 29 2017 10:54 JimmiC wrote:
from everything I read this is a amazingly deep draft, like they expect starters right not round 6-7 just not the big flashy names, especially in QB and WR
Yeah it's deep in like TE and secondary
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