Man burns cross in front lawn; gets 10 years - Page 2
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Belial-
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Kickstart
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bdams19
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
On June 08 2008 12:56 nitram wrote: he burned a cross? Why not just attack them with holy water instead. I mean common, a fucking cross. KKK used to burn crosses, no other group used holy waters. It's a racial thing. | ||
FragKrag
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bdams19
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MyLostTemple
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MyLostTemple
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On June 08 2008 12:56 nitram wrote: he burned a cross? Why not just attack them with holy water instead. I mean common, a fucking cross. | ||
alphablend
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http://www.southparkzone.com/episodes/401/Cartmans-Silly-Hate-Crime.html | ||
-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On June 08 2008 13:25 Haemonculus wrote: A man in Texas was recently sentenced to 35 years for spitting in public because he had AIDS. Source or it didn't happen | ||
Luddite
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
Since burning the cross is symbolic; he probably also got charges of of terroristic threat, coercion and intimidation (move or else.. ). It also all depends on his intent and his previous criminal history too. Burning stuff in other people's property and even your own is also a public safety issue so he probably got nabbed on that count too. Apparently he didn't convince anyone it was just a harmless prank lol..(I am not saying he tried too or said it was one..) Message sent, messaged received: burn a cross in someone else yard, bye bye 10 years. Sometimes a good example, prevents horrible things from the past returning. On a personal level, if someone burned a cross in front of my house, his own house would be next - so even though I am usually not* an advocate of hate crime laws or legislation in my my book the judge was wise and I can understand the 10 year sentence. *+ Show Spoiler + because i)the law already has mechanisms to increase punishment for aggravating circumstances ii)these hate crime laws have a real potential for misuse | ||
TheosEx
United States894 Posts
On June 08 2008 14:58 alphablend wrote: Hate crime legislation is complete bullshit http://www.southparkzone.com/episodes/401/Cartmans-Silly-Hate-Crime.html So tell us what your view of hate crime legislation should be, oh wise-one. Reference to South Park... oh, okay... I understand now. Obviously, this idiot did it with derogatory intentions. Even if he burned a Teletubby, he should've gotten jail-time. | ||
FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
On June 08 2008 14:08 Wizard wrote: wtf, 10 years for burning a cross? Well, he burned it in the other family's backyard and it was clearly an example of racial aggression. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
By 'spitting in public' he meant 'spitting in the eyeball of a police officer.' Apparently Haemonculus is the Fox News of TL. It was deemed assault with a deadly weapon, and even though pure saliva doesn't directly transmit AIDS, it's still possible to transmit it through spit (bleeding gums, canker sore, etc.) Maybe it was excessive because that's still a low chance, but it's obvious the guy was a douche bag (his intention was to infect the officer) and he has a past history of attacking officers. "He turns and spits. He hits me in the eye and mouth. Then he told me he has AIDS. I immediately began looking for something to flush my eyes with," said Waller to The Dallas Morning News. Officer Waller responded after a bystander reported seeing an unconcious male lying outside a building. Dallas County prosecutors stated that Campbell attempted to fight paramedics and kicked the police officer who arrested him for public intoxication. ... Prosecutors said that Campbell yelled that he was innocent during the trial, and claimed a police officer was lying. Campbell's lawyer Russell Heinrichs said that because he had a history of convictions including similarly attacking two other police officers, biting inmates, and other offenses, he was indicted under a habitual offender statute. | ||
aqui
Germany1023 Posts
the one thing that does really distrub me about the usa is its jurisdiction. | ||
Frits
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10 years for burning a cross... not that I feel any sympathy for the retard but how is that justice. | ||
-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On June 08 2008 18:01 Jibba wrote: By 'spitting in public' he meant 'spitting in the eyeball of a police officer.' Apparently Haemonculus is the Fox News of TL. Relax. To be honest, while spitting in the eye of a policman is definitely aggressive and is going to receive punishment, to me it really doesn't seem like that big of a difference from the original statement of spitting in public with aids. Yeah, it's "assault," but in terms of receiving aids, give me a break. You're not going to get aids from someone spitting in your eye. 35 years for something like that is completely absurd. The over criminalization in this country is absurd. | ||
Physician
United States4146 Posts
The four counts included using fire during the commission of a felony, interfering with the housing rights of another person; conspiring to interfere with civil rights, and tampering with a witness. The sentence called for 121 months for all counts. You start phucking around with authority after u been nabbed, and u WILL get it up the arse. I am sure now he got lucky. Plus burning an 8 feet cross near right by someone else's home, in a neighborhood.. he could have had arson easily added to his sentence lol.. + Show Spoiler + Arson is a serious crime that was punishable by death under the common law. Presently, it is classified as a felony under most statutes, punishable by either imprisonment or death. Many jurisdictions impose prison sentences commensurate with the seriousness of the criminal intent of the accused. A finding, therefore, that the offense was committed intentionally will result in a longer prison sentence than a finding that it was done recklessly. When a human life is endangered, the penalty is most severe. Anyway tampering with a witness, sigh.. not just a racist, a dumb ass too. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 08 2008 18:30 -orb- wrote: Relax. To be honest, while spitting in the eye of a policman is definitely aggressive and is going to receive punishment, to me it really doesn't seem like that big of a difference from the original statement of spitting in public with aids. Yeah, it's "assault," but in terms of receiving aids, give me a break. You're not going to get aids from someone spitting in your eye. 35 years for something like that is completely absurd. The over criminalization in this country is absurd. Whether you have AIDS or cooties or nothing at all, there's a huge, huge, huge difference between "spitting in public" and "spitting in the eye of a police officer." How about "I fired my gun in the air" and "I tried to blow that judge's head off." It was a bit excessive, but the chance is there. The guy was a career drunk loser, so his mouth is probably infested with all sorts of diseases, including gingivitis. | ||
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