On April 14 2015 21:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Nah bro Top 3 ezpz:
1. FruitDealer
2. HopeTorture
3. Foxer
Nah bro Top 3 ezpz:
1. FruitDealer
2. HopeTorture
3. Foxer
Rain > Hopetorture. dat cheese -. -
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On April 14 2015 21:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2015 21:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: On April 14 2015 20:25 Gwavajuice wrote: Seriously, Nestea? if you guys really want to go for nostalgia, go for Fruitdealer... Leave it the bait to the professionals (swag_bro). Nah bro Top 3 ezpz: 1. FruitDealer 2. HopeTorture 3. Foxer Rain > Hopetorture. dat cheese -. - | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On April 14 2015 21:29 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2015 21:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On April 14 2015 21:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: On April 14 2015 20:25 Gwavajuice wrote: Seriously, Nestea? if you guys really want to go for nostalgia, go for Fruitdealer... Leave it the bait to the professionals (swag_bro). Nah bro Top 3 ezpz: 1. FruitDealer 2. HopeTorture 3. Foxer Rain > Hopetorture. dat cheese -. - Well I mean Rain was at least kinda good | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On April 14 2015 21:12 Darkhorse wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote: On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote: I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder. 10. Parting 9. INnoVation 8. MMA 7. Polt 6. NesTea 5. Zest 4. Taeja 3. MC 2. Life 1. Mvp Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene. Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years I don't know if i would say that he was "pretty strong in korea for a few years" tbh. His best result (if i didn't miss something) after his last code s win was ro8 (two times). He was decent, not really strong though. This doesn't change the fact that he actually won code s three times, but you simply have to value these early code s titles A LOT less then the current ones. He should be in a top 15 list, but i am not sure if he should be in the upper half | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States42907 Posts
On April 14 2015 21:52 The_Red_Viper wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2015 21:12 Darkhorse wrote: On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote: On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote: I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder. 10. Parting 9. INnoVation 8. MMA 7. Polt 6. NesTea 5. Zest 4. Taeja 3. MC 2. Life 1. Mvp Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene. Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years I don't know if i would say that he was "pretty strong in korea for a few years" tbh. His best result (if i didn't miss something) after his last code s win was ro8 (two times). He was decent, not really strong though. This doesn't change the fact that he actually won code s three times, but you simply have to value these early code s titles A LOT less then the current ones. He should be in a top 15 list, but i am not sure if he should be in the upper half He was undoubtedly the best Zerg player for quite some period of time, is one of the winningest players of all time, and has won more money than nearly any other SC2 player. If we're talking about HotS, then no, he's not relevant. If we're talking about all of SC2 (which we are), then he's the friggin man | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
On April 14 2015 21:52 The_Red_Viper wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2015 21:12 Darkhorse wrote: On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote: On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote: I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder. 10. Parting 9. INnoVation 8. MMA 7. Polt 6. NesTea 5. Zest 4. Taeja 3. MC 2. Life 1. Mvp Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene. Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years This doesn't change the fact that he actually won code s three times, but you simply have to value these early code s titles A LOT less then the current ones. perfection is not any more valuable than innovation | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On April 14 2015 22:08 lichter wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2015 21:52 The_Red_Viper wrote: On April 14 2015 21:12 Darkhorse wrote: On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote: On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote: I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder. 10. Parting 9. INnoVation 8. MMA 7. Polt 6. NesTea 5. Zest 4. Taeja 3. MC 2. Life 1. Mvp Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene. Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years This doesn't change the fact that he actually won code s three times, but you simply have to value these early code s titles A LOT less then the current ones. perfection is not any more valuable than innovation I think it is. "innovation" is so vague that it means almost nothing considering that we simply don't know who really innovated (ladder, coaches, etc). We can say that player X used strategy Y successfully though. Which leads to -> success > "innovation". Otherwise Catz might be the GOAT | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States42907 Posts
On April 14 2015 22:16 The_Red_Viper wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2015 22:08 lichter wrote: On April 14 2015 21:52 The_Red_Viper wrote: On April 14 2015 21:12 Darkhorse wrote: On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote: On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote: I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder. 10. Parting 9. INnoVation 8. MMA 7. Polt 6. NesTea 5. Zest 4. Taeja 3. MC 2. Life 1. Mvp Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene. Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years This doesn't change the fact that he actually won code s three times, but you simply have to value these early code s titles A LOT less then the current ones. perfection is not any more valuable than innovation I think it is. "innovation" is so vague that it means almost nothing considering that we simply don't know who really innovated (ladder, coaches, etc). We can say that player X used strategy Y successfully though. Which leads to -> success > "innovation". Otherwise Catz might be the GOAT Top 3 GoaT: 3. CatZ 2. TLO 1. KiWiKaKi | ||
oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
On April 14 2015 20:26 Darkhorse wrote: also overrating Stephano really ? The guys that shifted the whole metagame several time ? Not saying he was the best mechanical or overall player, but he was a pure genius in the understanding of the game. | ||
Kimb3r
Germany744 Posts
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Elentos
55456 Posts
On April 14 2015 23:22 Kimb3r wrote: MarineKing.. lol xD Once upon a time, MarineKing was one of the best players to touch SC2. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 14 2015 22:16 The_Red_Viper wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2015 22:08 lichter wrote: On April 14 2015 21:52 The_Red_Viper wrote: On April 14 2015 21:12 Darkhorse wrote: On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote: On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote: I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder. 10. Parting 9. INnoVation 8. MMA 7. Polt 6. NesTea 5. Zest 4. Taeja 3. MC 2. Life 1. Mvp Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene. Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years This doesn't change the fact that he actually won code s three times, but you simply have to value these early code s titles A LOT less then the current ones. perfection is not any more valuable than innovation I think it is. "innovation" is so vague that it means almost nothing considering that we simply don't know who really innovated (ladder, coaches, etc). We can say that player X used strategy Y successfully though. Which leads to -> success > "innovation". Otherwise Catz might be the GOAT Leenock and DRG both credited Nestea with the creation of Zerg in interviews. | ||
Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
On April 14 2015 23:31 Elentos wrote: Once upon a time, MarineKing was one of the best players to touch SC2. And aLive was actually relevant, because of his sexy TvT....yea...good days. | ||
Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
9. Parting 8. Taeja 7. MMA 6. Zest 5. Innovation 4. Nestea 3. MC 2. Life 1. MVP | ||
bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On April 15 2015 00:07 stuchiu wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2015 22:16 The_Red_Viper wrote: On April 14 2015 22:08 lichter wrote: On April 14 2015 21:52 The_Red_Viper wrote: On April 14 2015 21:12 Darkhorse wrote: On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote: On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote: I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder. 10. Parting 9. INnoVation 8. MMA 7. Polt 6. NesTea 5. Zest 4. Taeja 3. MC 2. Life 1. Mvp Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene. Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years This doesn't change the fact that he actually won code s three times, but you simply have to value these early code s titles A LOT less then the current ones. perfection is not any more valuable than innovation I think it is. "innovation" is so vague that it means almost nothing considering that we simply don't know who really innovated (ladder, coaches, etc). We can say that player X used strategy Y successfully though. Which leads to -> success > "innovation". Otherwise Catz might be the GOAT Leenock and DRG both credited Nestea with the creation of Zerg in interviews. I have a hard time thinking who improved the race overall more tbh, nestea I suppose figured out the fundementals while stephano came up with speedlings into ultras, 3base roach rush, 2 base hydra timings, perfected infestor/broodlord, wrote the book on zvp. But nestea did prove that hatch before pool is better vs 11/11... In any event I don't want stephano to be high on that list nor do I want nestea to be high on that list. | ||
NiHiLuSsc2
United States50 Posts
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On April 15 2015 00:33 NiHiLuSsc2 wrote: number 1 has to be either MVP or NesTea they were like none other If #1 is nestea I'd be pretty salty tbh, I'd place him at ~5th or so. | ||
Wintex
Norway16832 Posts
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
1.) mvp (should be life but w/e) 2.) life 3.) mc 4.) mma 5.) nestea I'll keep going 7.) Zest 8.) Parting 9.) Innovation 10.) taeja Ugh that looks ugly | ||
munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On April 14 2015 23:31 Elentos wrote: Once upon a time, MarineKing was one of the best players to touch SC2. Godlike hands, miniscule brain A waste :[ | ||
bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
2.) Sniper 3.) Jjakji 4.) Alive 5.) TheDwf | ||
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