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Greatest Players of All Time: Part 1 - Page 31

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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 06:39:22
April 14 2015 06:32 GMT
#601
On April 14 2015 15:12 ETisME wrote:
Anyone can explain why is mc ranked so high for you?


His longevity as a tournament class player is unmatched by any player in Starcraft II. Since 2010 he's persistently attained a high position in tournament after tournament in a way that no other player has. Each time people count him out he comes back for yet another world class finish. He won't be first as even when he's winning tournaments he isn't the best player in the world usually. His highs aren't high enough. But he's done well in such an incredible number of tournaments that he definitely deserves a top 5 spot. In addition he is basically the only Protoss worth mentioning if you look at the first two years of the game.

On April 14 2015 15:25 JunkkaGom wrote:
This was really interesting to read. Thank you for a great article.
If I had my choice, I would put Nestea at the top. The fact he managed to transition into new game and winning GSL without dropping single set at such age makes him worthy


The problem with Nestea's rank within this ranking is that his achievements are very localized temporally. In 2010-2011 he was the only zerg worth mentioning (okay maybe DRG for the tail end of 2011). In 2012 he was a strong zerg. And since then he has achieved no results. Should he really be called the greatest player if he's had no impact on over half of it?
[Erasmus]
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia286 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 06:52:11
April 14 2015 06:50 GMT
#602
1. MVP
2. Life
3. Nestea
4. Zest
5. Rain
6. MC
7. MMA
8. Polt
9. Taeja
10. Parting
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 14 2015 07:01 GMT
#603
Still surprised by the amount of people putting sOs in..
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 08:09:51
April 14 2015 07:15 GMT
#604
On April 14 2015 15:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
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On April 14 2015 15:25 JunkkaGom wrote:
This was really interesting to read. Thank you for a great article.
If I had my choice, I would put Nestea at the top. The fact he managed to transition into new game and winning GSL without dropping single set at such age makes him worthy


The problem with Nestea's rank within this ranking is that his achievements are very localized temporally. In 2010-2011 he was the only zerg worth mentioning (okay maybe DRG for the tail end of 2011). In 2012 he was a strong zerg. And since then he has achieved no results. Should he really be called the greatest player if he's had no impact on over half of it?

Leenock was pretty worth mentioning at the end of 2011 too..

Also I think this is one of the biggest throws in sc2 history from the end of 2011 which made Nestea suck. After this game he pretty much never played well again. Even I could have won from his position:

Start watching around 11:30 if the timer doesnt work.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 07:38:38
April 14 2015 07:36 GMT
#605
On April 14 2015 15:23 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 03:36 Zealously wrote:
CAN YOU GUESS THE PLAYERS THAT WILL BE IN PART 2?

I'll buy you 3 months of TL+ if you guess right, 6 if you get the order right



10 - sOs
9 - Stephano
8 - MC
7 - Polt MMA
6 - Parting

(5 -INno
4 - Zest
3 - Taeja
2 - Life
1 - MVP)

Although you might squeeze Nestea or Rain somewhere...

Edit : fuck I realized haven't put MMA, what a shame! replacing Polt by MMA then, but I'm not happy... (why the hell did you put MK in this list )

On April 14 2015 13:21 feanaro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 03:36 Zealously wrote:
CAN YOU GUESS THE PLAYERS THAT WILL BE IN PART 2?

I'll buy you 3 months of TL+ if you guess right, 6 if you get the order right


My guesses:
10: PartinG
9: $O$
8: MC
7: Nestea
6: Taeja
5: Polt
4: Zest
3: MMA
2: MVP
1: Life

At least read the article properly before trying to get Zealously's TL+ so you know sOs is ranked as 16.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 08:16:44
April 14 2015 07:55 GMT
#606
On April 14 2015 16:15 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 15:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 14 2015 15:25 JunkkaGom wrote:
This was really interesting to read. Thank you for a great article.
If I had my choice, I would put Nestea at the top. The fact he managed to transition into new game and winning GSL without dropping single set at such age makes him worthy


The problem with Nestea's rank within this ranking is that his achievements are very localized temporally. In 2010-2011 he was the only zerg worth mentioning (okay maybe DRG for the tail end of 2011). In 2012 he was a strong zerg. And since then he has achieved no results. Should he really be called the greatest player if he's had no impact on over half of it?

Leenock was pretty worth mentioning at the end of 2011 too..


Yes, Leenock, DRG, and Losira (won code A and was a MLG and GSL finalist ffs) were all quite hot in 2011.

As a longtime fan of Nestea who followed him since the beginning, if I had to pinpoint the exact moment where he began his long descent into what he is today I'd say it happened between the 2011 Blizzcon and the 2011 November season ro16 against Huk. Right around there is when he began throwing hardcore in longer games and his strategical brilliance began to slowly fade. Didn't register at the time but already I'd say DRG and Leenock were better at that point.

edit: nvm you posted it.

after this game he pretty much never played well again.


Not entirely. Nestea still maintained his position as a top 5 Zerg for several more months taking 3rd at both IPL4 and Iron Squid and even went on to make a ro8 in the gsl. Nestea's final tournament of relevancy I'd say was Iron Squid II in 2013 where he actually did put on a competitive form.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
April 14 2015 08:00 GMT
#607
On April 14 2015 16:36 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 15:23 Gwavajuice wrote:
On April 12 2015 03:36 Zealously wrote:
CAN YOU GUESS THE PLAYERS THAT WILL BE IN PART 2?

I'll buy you 3 months of TL+ if you guess right, 6 if you get the order right



10 - sOs
9 - Stephano
8 - MC
7 - Polt MMA
6 - Parting

(5 -INno
4 - Zest
3 - Taeja
2 - Life
1 - MVP)

Although you might squeeze Nestea or Rain somewhere...

Edit : fuck I realized haven't put MMA, what a shame! replacing Polt by MMA then, but I'm not happy... (why the hell did you put MK in this list )

Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 13:21 feanaro wrote:
On April 12 2015 03:36 Zealously wrote:
CAN YOU GUESS THE PLAYERS THAT WILL BE IN PART 2?

I'll buy you 3 months of TL+ if you guess right, 6 if you get the order right


My guesses:
10: PartinG
9: $O$
8: MC
7: Nestea
6: Taeja
5: Polt
4: Zest
3: MMA
2: MVP
1: Life

At least read the article properly before trying to get Zealously's TL+ so you know sOs is ranked as 16.


Lol I m busted I didn't read the leenock part to the end

okay then :



10 - Polt
9 - Stephano
8 - MC
7 - MMA
6 - Parting

(5 -INno
4 - Zest
3 - Taeja
2 - Life
1 - MVP)

and there'd better be no hidden #17 :D

Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 11:40:44
April 14 2015 10:04 GMT
#608
1) Life
2) Mvp
3) INnoVation
4) Bomber
5) TaeJa
6) MC
7) Zest
8) sOs
9) PartinG
10) Soulkey or NesTea

Life dominated WoL the 2nd most, and HotS the most, give the kid the trophy already, while Bogus has had the most dominant streak out of anyone ever during the first half of HotS or so...

Bomber is extremely clutch on offline things, rarely dropped a final, when he was there, similar like Life and Mvp
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
April 14 2015 10:27 GMT
#609
If no stephano I'll be very sad. But I doubt it'll happen ^^
I like starcraft
Cowboy64
Profile Joined April 2015
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 10:44:33
April 14 2015 10:29 GMT
#610
10. Rain
9. Polt
8. MMA
7. MC
6. NesTea
5. INnoVation
4. Taeja
3. Zest
2. Mvp
1. Life
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
April 14 2015 11:25 GMT
#611
Seriously, Nestea? if you guys really want to go for nostalgia, go for Fruitdealer...
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 11:33:01
April 14 2015 11:26 GMT
#612
Holy overrating Zest guys pls D: also overrating Stephano

If your list doesn't at least include Nestea you are a silly goof
On April 14 2015 20:25 Gwavajuice wrote:
Seriously, Nestea? if you guys really want to go for nostalgia, go for Fruitdealer...

I'm just gonna assume you didn't watch SC2 in 2010/2011 considering you say this and you have Zest and Inno above MC, MMA, and Polt. Nestea made Zerg man, and he won three GSLs
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helius788
Profile Joined July 2012
New Zealand74 Posts
April 14 2015 11:53 GMT
#613
I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder.

10. Parting
9. INnoVation
8. MMA
7. Polt
6. NesTea
5. Zest
4. Taeja
3. MC
2. Life
1. Mvp
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46669 Posts
April 14 2015 11:54 GMT
#614
On April 14 2015 15:12 ETisME wrote:
Anyone can explain why is mc ranked so high for you?


One of the most successful and winningest players of all time (won the most money out of any SC2 player for quite a while, although he may have dropped to 2nd or 3rd recently), and was the premier Protoss player for an insanely long amount of time
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 12:00:44
April 14 2015 12:00 GMT
#615
On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote:
I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder.

10. Parting
9. INnoVation
8. MMA
7. Polt
6. NesTea
5. Zest
4. Taeja
3. MC
2. Life
1. Mvp

Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta

Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
April 14 2015 12:06 GMT
#616
On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote:
I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder.

10. Parting
9. INnoVation
8. MMA
7. Polt
6. NesTea
5. Zest
4. Taeja
3. MC
2. Life
1. Mvp

Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta

Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls

Zest in OP picture so i put him at 10
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46669 Posts
April 14 2015 12:07 GMT
#617
On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote:
I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder.

10. Parting
9. INnoVation
8. MMA
7. Polt
6. NesTea
5. Zest
4. Taeja
3. MC
2. Life
1. Mvp

Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta

Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls


Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 14 2015 12:12 GMT
#618
On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote:
I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder.

10. Parting
9. INnoVation
8. MMA
7. Polt
6. NesTea
5. Zest
4. Taeja
3. MC
2. Life
1. Mvp

Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta

Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls


Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene.

Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 14 2015 12:18 GMT
#619
On April 14 2015 20:25 Gwavajuice wrote:
Seriously, Nestea? if you guys really want to go for nostalgia, go for Fruitdealer...


Leave it the bait to the professionals (swag_bro).
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46669 Posts
April 14 2015 12:25 GMT
#620
On April 14 2015 21:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 20:25 Gwavajuice wrote:
Seriously, Nestea? if you guys really want to go for nostalgia, go for Fruitdealer...


Leave it the bait to the professionals (swag_bro).


Nah bro Top 3 ezpz:

1. FruitDealer
2. HopeTorture
3. Foxer
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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