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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
April 14 2015 15:47 GMT
#641
A nice bonus of this article is you can see how many people actually read it
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
April 14 2015 15:48 GMT
#642
people always name seed sniper and jjakji as most forgotten gsl champions but drg and roro are way more forgottener
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
April 14 2015 15:51 GMT
#643
On April 15 2015 00:48 Fuell wrote:
people always name seed sniper and jjakji as most forgotten gsl champions but drg and roro are way more forgottener


What
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3764 Posts
April 14 2015 15:56 GMT
#644
On April 15 2015 00:51 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 00:48 Fuell wrote:
people always name seed sniper and jjakji as most forgotten gsl champions but drg and roro are way more forgottener


What

sniper and seed are the most. jjakji is not as much forgotten since he moved to EU and started to be visible. RorO was the first KeSPA player to be really strong (4th in 2012 WCS Korea Nationals etc) and won the last WoL GSL.

DRG is a legend.
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
April 14 2015 17:56 GMT
#645
Sniper.. never forget
Samx
Profile Joined August 2013
Singapore149 Posts
April 14 2015 18:26 GMT
#646
How many of the likely top 10 are still relevant today?
The Kespa switch changed the landscape completely. It's nostalgic to think of the WoL days before the Kespa invasion, but the truth is winning pre-Kespa GSL is easier than winning hotsix cup today or maybe even some of the more stacked iem today.
How leenock winning mlg is tougher than sOs winning blizzcon, iem world and hotsix is beyond me. Top 3 of a race in 2012 is nothing compared to top 10 in 2015.
Our enemies are a legion and STILL you procrastinate
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55583 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 18:33:41
April 14 2015 18:29 GMT
#647
On April 15 2015 03:26 Samx wrote:
How many of the likely top 10 are still relevant today?
The Kespa switch changed the landscape completely. It's nostalgic to think of the WoL days before the Kespa invasion, but the truth is winning pre-Kespa GSL is easier than winning hotsix cup today or maybe even some of the more stacked iem today.
How leenock winning mlg is tougher than sOs winning blizzcon, iem world and hotsix is beyond me. Top 3 of a race in 2012 is nothing compared to top 10 in 2015.

Of the likely top 10? Life, PartinG definitely, MC is kinda relevant, MMA is kinda relevant (GSL semifinalist but close to retiring), TaeJa was relevant until last year but is quasi-retired now, Polt is relevant albeit moreso in the foreign scene. Possible other candidates are INnoVation, Rain and Zest which are obviously relevant. Only Mvp and NesTea are obvious candidates that are obviously irrelevant.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Frakkofff
Profile Joined May 2014
Russian Federation66 Posts
April 14 2015 18:29 GMT
#648
So many stupid people on this thread.

sOs... Seriously?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 14 2015 18:38 GMT
#649
1. Mvp
2. Life
3. MC
4. aLive
5. Taeja
6. Polt
7. Nestea
8. MMA
9. Innovation
10. Zest
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55583 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 18:41:00
April 14 2015 18:40 GMT
#650
On April 15 2015 03:38 Darkhorse wrote:
1. Mvp
2. Life
3. MC
4. aLive
5. Taeja
6. Polt
7. Nestea
8. MMA
9. Innovation
10. Zest

Might aswell put in Classic now
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
April 14 2015 18:47 GMT
#651
On April 15 2015 03:38 Darkhorse wrote:
1. Mvp
2. Life
3. MC
4. aLive
5. Taeja
6. Polt
7. Nestea
8. MMA
9. Innovation
10. Zest

Sneaky. I didn't notice for a second.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 14 2015 18:51 GMT
#652
Curses I've been found out
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 14 2015 18:53 GMT
#653
Darkhorse, you forgot to put number 4 in your list.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Frakkofff
Profile Joined May 2014
Russian Federation66 Posts
April 14 2015 19:04 GMT
#654
#10 : TaeJa
#9 : PartinG
#8 : INoVation
#7 : Polt
#6 : Zest
#5 : NesTea
#4 : MC
#3 : MMA
#2 : Life
#1 : Mvp
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55583 Posts
April 14 2015 19:05 GMT
#655
On April 15 2015 03:53 Ej_ wrote:
Darkhorse, you forgot to put number 4 in your list.

Aww. That's mean. Poor aLive.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 14 2015 19:06 GMT
#656
On April 15 2015 04:05 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 03:53 Ej_ wrote:
Darkhorse, you forgot to put number 4 in your list.

Aww. That's mean. Poor aLive.

who?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
helius788
Profile Joined July 2012
New Zealand74 Posts
April 14 2015 19:36 GMT
#657
On April 15 2015 04:04 Frakkofff wrote:
#10 : TaeJa
#9 : PartinG
#8 : INoVation
#7 : Polt
#6 : Zest
#5 : NesTea
#4 : MC
#3 : MMA
#2 : Life
#1 : Mvp


agreed with most of it. MMA far too high imo. Switch it with Taeja ;-)
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4418 Posts
April 14 2015 20:25 GMT
#658
On April 14 2015 21:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 21:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote:
I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder.

10. Parting
9. INnoVation
8. MMA
7. Polt
6. NesTea
5. Zest
4. Taeja
3. MC
2. Life
1. Mvp

Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta

Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls


Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene.

Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years

I don't know if i would say that he was "pretty strong in korea for a few years" tbh.
His best result (if i didn't miss something) after his last code s win was ro8 (two times).
He was decent, not really strong though.
This doesn't change the fact that he actually won code s three times, but you simply have to value these early code s titles A LOT less then the current ones.
He should be in a top 15 list, but i am not sure if he should be in the upper half


Top 8 in GSL is pretty dang good. Especially since one of those top 8s was a 2-3 loss to mvp while mvp was still in god mode. He also had his top 3 IPL4 run which was april 2012. That is still one of the most stacked international tournaments ever with nearly 40 koreans in attendance. He beat both the finalists in that tournament. It really seemed like he only lost due to fatigue in the end. I wish IPL4 had been a 4 day tournament. It definitely should have been considering all 3 days ended up being like 12+ hours long which is far too harsh on the players. I also think Nestea is slightly underrated because people forget just how many times he got blocked by mvp. In 2011 he lost to mvp 6 times. Only 2 of those were in finals (gainward and Blizzcon). If he had better bracket luck he probably would have made another finals.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
April 14 2015 20:26 GMT
#659
On April 15 2015 03:29 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 03:26 Samx wrote:
How many of the likely top 10 are still relevant today?
The Kespa switch changed the landscape completely. It's nostalgic to think of the WoL days before the Kespa invasion, but the truth is winning pre-Kespa GSL is easier than winning hotsix cup today or maybe even some of the more stacked iem today.
How leenock winning mlg is tougher than sOs winning blizzcon, iem world and hotsix is beyond me. Top 3 of a race in 2012 is nothing compared to top 10 in 2015.

MMA is kinda relevant (GSL semifinalist but close to retiring)


You can't be much more "relevant" than a Blizzcon final and a GSL semifinal...
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
April 14 2015 20:27 GMT
#660
On April 15 2015 05:26 Gorlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 03:29 Elentos wrote:
On April 15 2015 03:26 Samx wrote:
How many of the likely top 10 are still relevant today?
The Kespa switch changed the landscape completely. It's nostalgic to think of the WoL days before the Kespa invasion, but the truth is winning pre-Kespa GSL is easier than winning hotsix cup today or maybe even some of the more stacked iem today.
How leenock winning mlg is tougher than sOs winning blizzcon, iem world and hotsix is beyond me. Top 3 of a race in 2012 is nothing compared to top 10 in 2015.

MMA is kinda relevant (GSL semifinalist but close to retiring)


You can't be much more "relevant" than a Blizzcon final and a GSL semifinal...


Actually I don't think there are any relevant players atm. At least according to the logic presented here.
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