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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 12:31:26
April 14 2015 12:29 GMT
#621
On April 14 2015 21:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On April 14 2015 21:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 14 2015 20:25 Gwavajuice wrote:
Seriously, Nestea? if you guys really want to go for nostalgia, go for Fruitdealer...


Leave it the bait to the professionals (swag_bro).


Nah bro Top 3 ezpz:

1. FruitDealer
2. HopeTorture
3. Foxer


(T)Rain > Hopetorture. dat cheese -. -
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 14 2015 12:46 GMT
#622
On April 14 2015 21:29 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 21:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 14 2015 20:25 Gwavajuice wrote:
Seriously, Nestea? if you guys really want to go for nostalgia, go for Fruitdealer...


Leave it the bait to the professionals (swag_bro).


Nah bro Top 3 ezpz:

1. FruitDealer
2. HopeTorture
3. Foxer


(T)Rain > Hopetorture. dat cheese -. -

Well I mean Rain was at least kinda good
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 14 2015 12:52 GMT
#623
On April 14 2015 21:12 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote:
I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder.

10. Parting
9. INnoVation
8. MMA
7. Polt
6. NesTea
5. Zest
4. Taeja
3. MC
2. Life
1. Mvp

Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta

Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls


Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene.

Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years

I don't know if i would say that he was "pretty strong in korea for a few years" tbh.
His best result (if i didn't miss something) after his last code s win was ro8 (two times).
He was decent, not really strong though.
This doesn't change the fact that he actually won code s three times, but you simply have to value these early code s titles A LOT less then the current ones.
He should be in a top 15 list, but i am not sure if he should be in the upper half
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44565 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 12:55:35
April 14 2015 12:55 GMT
#624
On April 14 2015 21:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 21:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote:
I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder.

10. Parting
9. INnoVation
8. MMA
7. Polt
6. NesTea
5. Zest
4. Taeja
3. MC
2. Life
1. Mvp

Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta

Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls


Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene.

Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years

I don't know if i would say that he was "pretty strong in korea for a few years" tbh.
His best result (if i didn't miss something) after his last code s win was ro8 (two times).
He was decent, not really strong though.
This doesn't change the fact that he actually won code s three times, but you simply have to value these early code s titles A LOT less then the current ones.
He should be in a top 15 list, but i am not sure if he should be in the upper half


He was undoubtedly the best Zerg player for quite some period of time, is one of the winningest players of all time, and has won more money than nearly any other SC2 player. If we're talking about HotS, then no, he's not relevant. If we're talking about all of SC2 (which we are), then he's the friggin man
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 14 2015 13:08 GMT
#625
On April 14 2015 21:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 21:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote:
I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder.

10. Parting
9. INnoVation
8. MMA
7. Polt
6. NesTea
5. Zest
4. Taeja
3. MC
2. Life
1. Mvp

Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta

Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls


Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene.

Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years

This doesn't change the fact that he actually won code s three times, but you simply have to value these early code s titles A LOT less then the current ones.


perfection is not any more valuable than innovation
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 14 2015 13:16 GMT
#626
On April 14 2015 22:08 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 21:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote:
I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder.

10. Parting
9. INnoVation
8. MMA
7. Polt
6. NesTea
5. Zest
4. Taeja
3. MC
2. Life
1. Mvp

Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta

Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls


Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene.

Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years

This doesn't change the fact that he actually won code s three times, but you simply have to value these early code s titles A LOT less then the current ones.


perfection is not any more valuable than innovation

I think it is. "innovation" is so vague that it means almost nothing considering that we simply don't know who really innovated (ladder, coaches, etc).
We can say that player X used strategy Y successfully though.
Which leads to -> success > "innovation". Otherwise Catz might be the GOAT
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44565 Posts
April 14 2015 13:17 GMT
#627
On April 14 2015 22:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 22:08 lichter wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote:
I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder.

10. Parting
9. INnoVation
8. MMA
7. Polt
6. NesTea
5. Zest
4. Taeja
3. MC
2. Life
1. Mvp

Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta

Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls


Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene.

Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years

This doesn't change the fact that he actually won code s three times, but you simply have to value these early code s titles A LOT less then the current ones.


perfection is not any more valuable than innovation

I think it is. "innovation" is so vague that it means almost nothing considering that we simply don't know who really innovated (ladder, coaches, etc).
We can say that player X used strategy Y successfully though.
Which leads to -> success > "innovation". Otherwise Catz might be the GOAT


Top 3 GoaT:

3. CatZ
2. TLO
1. KiWiKaKi
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
April 14 2015 13:49 GMT
#628
On April 14 2015 20:26 Darkhorse wrote:
also overrating Stephano

really ? The guys that shifted the whole metagame several time ? Not saying he was the best mechanical or overall player, but he was a pure genius in the understanding of the game.
I like starcraft
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
April 14 2015 14:22 GMT
#629
MarineKing.. lol xD
Maru | Dark | Zest | Reynor | Scarlett
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
April 14 2015 14:31 GMT
#630
On April 14 2015 23:22 Kimb3r wrote:
MarineKing.. lol xD

Once upon a time, MarineKing was one of the best players to touch SC2.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 14 2015 15:07 GMT
#631
On April 14 2015 22:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 22:08 lichter wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote:
I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder.

10. Parting
9. INnoVation
8. MMA
7. Polt
6. NesTea
5. Zest
4. Taeja
3. MC
2. Life
1. Mvp

Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta

Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls


Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene.

Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years

This doesn't change the fact that he actually won code s three times, but you simply have to value these early code s titles A LOT less then the current ones.


perfection is not any more valuable than innovation

I think it is. "innovation" is so vague that it means almost nothing considering that we simply don't know who really innovated (ladder, coaches, etc).
We can say that player X used strategy Y successfully though.
Which leads to -> success > "innovation". Otherwise Catz might be the GOAT


Leenock and DRG both credited Nestea with the creation of Zerg in interviews.
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Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 15:12:39
April 14 2015 15:08 GMT
#632
On April 14 2015 23:31 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 23:22 Kimb3r wrote:
MarineKing.. lol xD

Once upon a time, MarineKing was one of the best players to touch SC2.


And aLive was actually relevant, because of his sexy TvT....yea...good days.
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
April 14 2015 15:20 GMT
#633
10. Rain
9. Parting
8. Taeja
7. MMA
6. Zest
5. Innovation
4. Nestea
3. MC
2. Life
1. MVP
Revolutionist fan
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 15:31:30
April 14 2015 15:30 GMT
#634
On April 15 2015 00:07 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 22:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 14 2015 22:08 lichter wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 14 2015 20:53 helius788 wrote:
I also feel like ppl overrate NesTea. Sure he won 3 GSL, but he was only dominating in end 2010 till mid 2011. Zest was dominating pretty much 2014. Around the same amount of months, but the competition has become much harder.

10. Parting
9. INnoVation
8. MMA
7. Polt
6. NesTea
5. Zest
4. Taeja
3. MC
2. Life
1. Mvp

Counter point: Nestea basically defined Zerg. He revolutionized how it was played and helped create the meta. Zest played well in an already defined Protoss meta

Also 3 GSLs. Also Zest above MMA and Polt? Pls


Also, there's literally an award named after Nestea for his longevity in the pro scene.

Yeah for real. People act like he didn't do anything besides his three wins. He was actually pretty strong in Korea for a few years

This doesn't change the fact that he actually won code s three times, but you simply have to value these early code s titles A LOT less then the current ones.


perfection is not any more valuable than innovation

I think it is. "innovation" is so vague that it means almost nothing considering that we simply don't know who really innovated (ladder, coaches, etc).
We can say that player X used strategy Y successfully though.
Which leads to -> success > "innovation". Otherwise Catz might be the GOAT


Leenock and DRG both credited Nestea with the creation of Zerg in interviews.

I have a hard time thinking who improved the race overall more tbh, nestea I suppose figured out the fundementals while stephano came up with speedlings into ultras, 3base roach rush, 2 base hydra timings, perfected infestor/broodlord, wrote the book on zvp. But nestea did prove that hatch before pool is better vs 11/11...

In any event I don't want stephano to be high on that list nor do I want nestea to be high on that list.
NiHiLuSsc2
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States50 Posts
April 14 2015 15:33 GMT
#635
number 1 has to be either MVP or NesTea they were like none other
PBJT
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
April 14 2015 15:35 GMT
#636
On April 15 2015 00:33 NiHiLuSsc2 wrote:
number 1 has to be either MVP or NesTea they were like none other

If #1 is nestea I'd be pretty salty tbh, I'd place him at ~5th or so.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
April 14 2015 15:35 GMT
#637
bomber #1
The Bomber boy
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 15:44:54
April 14 2015 15:37 GMT
#638
Fuck it, I'm gonna predict top 5:

1.) mvp (should be life but w/e)
2.) life
3.) mc
4.) mma
5.) nestea

I'll keep going

6.) Skt.Rain
7.) Zest
8.) Parting
9.) Innovation
10.) taeja


Ugh that looks ugly
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
April 14 2015 15:43 GMT
#639
On April 14 2015 23:31 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 23:22 Kimb3r wrote:
MarineKing.. lol xD

Once upon a time, MarineKing was one of the best players to touch SC2.


Godlike hands, miniscule brain

A waste :[
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
April 14 2015 15:45 GMT
#640
1.) Seed
2.) Sniper
3.) Jjakji
4.) Alive
5.) TheDwf
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